Callens kicks the only job lads!

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 339 - 30/11/2015 17:03:35    1810654

Brian Cody should not worry about a nonentity like Rosenstock. Cody has his place in sporting history, The other moron thinks he is funny, at least he believes it!!

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1745 - 30/11/2015 17:05:44    1810655

30/11/2015 11:33:06
TheMaster
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If you read the entire post you would see he was joking SLLY

I was referring to his claim re Cody being best GAA manager.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 30/11/2015 17:06:17    1810656

I wouldn't say there are many better than him, Silly, to be fair.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/11/2015 17:57:21    1810665

30/11/2015 17:57:21
ballydalane
County: Kilkenny
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I wouldn't say there are many better than him, Silly, to be fair.
Probably not wallydalane but its debatable I'd suggest as opposed to a certainty.Up there in hurling terms alright.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 30/11/2015 18:10:31    1810667

Up There? High standards indeed.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2145 - 30/11/2015 19:02:01    1810677

"Up there"?!

"Up there"??!!

Yes, eleven senior All Irelands as manager is certainly "up there" alright.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/11/2015 19:05:11    1810678

"Up there"?!

"Up there"??!!

Yes, eleven senior All Irelands as manager is certainly "up there" alright.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/11/2015 19:06:44    1810679

Yes,up there !
Considering the group of players and talent at his disposal I think that is fair.
Don't blow a fuse there sham.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 30/11/2015 20:45:41    1810694

The post is a bit of craic, BUT on a serious note, Cody is definetly the greatest Hurling manager of ther modern era.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 30/11/2015 20:56:35    1810700

SLLY
County: Dublin
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1810694 Yes,up there !
Considering the group of players and talent at his disposal I think that is fair.
Don't blow a fuse there sham

Back in 1998 when Cody took over Kilkenny were nothing like the machine they are now. Cody is the main driving force behind what Kilkenny have become. When the great Kerry team of the seventies and eighties broke up Kerry went eleven years without an All Ireland. When the great Dublin team of the seventies broke up Dublin only won two All Irelands between 1977 and 2011. None of the Kilkenny team from 2000 are still playing. What did Cody do after the greatest team of all time broke up? He created another one and they kept on winning. He is the greatest manager of all time in either hurling or football.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 30/11/2015 21:28:54    1810709

I'll paraphrase Vincent Hogan, "if there's been a greater manager than Cody, they certainly haven't ordained that fact in statistics."

I think slly is actually a better comedian than Rosenstock.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/11/2015 21:56:45    1810716

30/11/2015 21:28:54
Greengrass
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SLLY
County: Dublin
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1810694 Yes,up there !
Considering the group of players and talent at his disposal I think that is fair.
Don't blow a fuse there sham

Back in 1998 when Cody took over Kilkenny were nothing like the machine they are now. Cody is the main driving force behind what Kilkenny have become. When the great Kerry team of the seventies and eighties broke up Kerry went eleven years without an All Ireland. When the great Dublin team of the seventies broke up Dublin only won two All Irelands between 1977 and 2011. None of the Kilkenny team from 2000 are still playing. What did Cody do after the greatest team of all time broke up? He created another one and they kept on winning. He is the greatest manager of all time in either hurling or football.

As I mentioned earlier I think this is debatable as there are a few who would have to be considered also.
My point was that Cody probably had at least half of the greatest players ever to play the game if you were to put a best 15 together to choose from.That's not a bad place to start if you are looking to build a legacy as undoubtedly that group have.
Kevin Heffernan,Mick O Dwyer,Sean Boylan,Mickey Harte are also contenders for various reasons.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 30/11/2015 22:04:12    1810719

Silly is correct - it is debatable.

But looking at the stats and standard set I find it hard to see anyone better than Cody. I'll add that the impression I get from afar is that Ned Quinn has been of huge benefit to Brian Cody also, putting in place a system of getting players through to the Senior Inter County team that has reaped great rewards.

Other Managers have achieved great things like breakthroughs with counties starved of success, eg Dermot Healy, Cyril Farrell, Babs Keating and some have won things with more than one county - eg John Allen, but none match Cody for repeated success, style, goal-scoring, ferocity.

He's the best.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 01/12/2015 08:08:12    1810720

Cody is the greatest ever. Kilkenny has got a population of 100000 which is not near that of Cork, Dublin, Tipp or Galway. Yes of course there is great talent in the county and they dont play any other sport let alone football, so you would have to say that he has reached a level of consistency that is way above any other manager of kilkenny in the past.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 01/12/2015 10:17:22    1810740

SLLY
"Kevin Heffernan, Mick O'Dwyer, Sean Boylan, Mickey Harte are also contenders for various reasons."

But the best thing you said about Cody was that he was "up there in hurling terms", yet you haven't named a single hurling manager in your list (I realise Boylan managed hurling teams in Meath but for the purposes of this debate I assume he's on your list for his football exploits with Meath). So who's a better hurling manager than him?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 01/12/2015 12:52:14    1810781

ballydalane
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SLLY
"Kevin Heffernan, Mick O'Dwyer, Sean Boylan, Mickey Harte are also contenders for various reasons."

But the best thing you said about Cody was that he was "up there in hurling terms", yet you haven't named a single hurling manager in your list (I realise Boylan managed hurling teams in Meath but for the purposes of this debate I assume he's on your list for his football exploits with Meath). So who's a better hurling manager than him?

Well, now that you've confined your claim to hurling you probably have a better case. Interesting how you conveniently choose to forget that initially you stated that he was the greatest GAA manager. Mabye GAA is confined to hurling in Kilkenny but there is a world beyond the small ball code.
Nothing against Cody whatsoever and simply find your claim and attempt at discrediting any debate about other managers claim to that accolade a bit arrogant.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 01/12/2015 15:08:08    1810856

i loved him when i seen him do flatley etc at the start..then i (we ) went to see him live.a disapointment.i wanted him to be good but he wasnt.since then ive steadily gone off him.his miriam and joan burton stuff is simply not funny.arty mildly funny.i watched the first show of this series.it was crap.i vowed not to look at anymore.btw cody is the greatest gaa manager ever..not any doubt about that..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 01/12/2015 19:35:54    1810929

Cody is top class. BUT.... I still believe he is a level below Mick o Dwyer and John o Mahoney because of their ability to achieve in more than one county. What micko did with laois and o Mahoney with Galway and leitrim is a step above

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 767 - 01/12/2015 21:36:00    1810966

Malonemagic John O'Mahoney, you serious ?,

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 02/12/2015 09:41:41    1810984