Michael McCann's version of the incident in Monday's Irish News was shocking if true. He said a certain Cross player walked up behind him, bit him on the shoulder and that sparked a melee amongst the players. McCann said he mentioned it to the referee. The Cross management then came out and denied it completely so someone is being economical with the truth. Why would a player or club just make up allegations like this or make comment if it didn't happen?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 04/11/2015 21:47:21    1804535

benjyyy
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A bite can be quite painful (and shocking) without leaving a noticeable mark so he probably has nothing to show, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Anyway even if it had been caught on camera they could argue that there was no intent, it was a complete accident and what happens on the pitch stays on the pitch. Worked for Philly McMahon.

Well name the player then, why didn't he show the mark to the referee at the time, he went crying to his manager after they were comprehensively beaten by a weakened Cross team it's all very easy to make scurrilous accusations as seems to be mr brennans forte when beaten.

As for the melee that most people at the match witnessed starting, those of us who saw it all know the reason for it.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 08:13:35    1804542

benjyyy
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A bite can be quite painful (and shocking) without leaving a noticeable mark so he probably has nothing to show, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Cargin boss John Brennan said while he didn't see what happened his players say it did and the player who was allegedly bitten has a mark

Here you go benjyyy, there is a mark so presumable there's a photo and the player is known, therefore it is simple if these accusations are true then:

McCann claims he told the referee, therefore the referee would have seen the marks during and/or after the game and will know the accused players name.
Publish the photograph and name the player, put up or shut up.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 08:29:22    1804545

Why would a player or club just make up allegations like this or make comment if it didn't happen?

Why indeed.

Why would a player or club just make up allegations like this or make comment and not produce the evidence to back it up?

I actually think that John Brennan and some of the cargin players thought that they would win, john brennan seemed 'emotional'after the final whistle and this was before mccann allegedly went crying to him.

Anyway, the referee will have seen the mark and will have identified the player, what gets me is why the Irish News never published a photo of the bite and how in a crowd of thousands including dozens of photographers, journalists, match officials and thousands of neutrals, during a live tv game no one noticed this. However many people seem to have the same story as to how the melee started and although it does involve mccann it doesn't involve biting or him being a victim.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 08:46:26    1804549

I believe player in trouble us is same lad that was involved in Dublin Armagh brawl.Will he get away a second time?

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 05/11/2015 11:05:18    1804582

I believe player in trouble us is same lad that was involved in Dublin Armagh brawl.Will he get away a second time?

Interesting indeed Hugh if true. Some people on here being very bullish/spiteful when all facts aren't out there.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 05/11/2015 11:45:49    1804596

Brennan has a history of making unfounded allegations against Cross after losing a championship match against them. The melee started because the Cargin man ran straight into the Cross man. They targeted a few players with dangerous head tackles during the game, Johnny Hanratty in particular. They tried to get physical with Cross and it didn't work. They couldn't beat them at football so they had to resort to other methods. As has been said if the man was bitten then put it up or shut up. Have conviction or stay shut. It's easy to make allegations and tar people and then walk away after the damage to reputation is done. If it happened then that was wrong and whoever did it, if proved, should get whatever punishment is appropriate. If they are not prepared to pursue it they should publicly withdraw the allegation.

RangerDanger (Armagh) - Posts: 101 - 05/11/2015 11:54:14    1804600

Im disgusted with the ulster posters this morning , shocking totally appaling behaviour , just when you think theyve learnt they fall back into their old ways, will it ever change , they just cant help themselves they try but they just cant stop themselves ,
Yes on more than a couple of occasions you guys have actually replied to comments from Hughhunt , jesus lads get with the rest of the country his comments are purely for reaction , the biggest attention seeking idiot this forum has , by all means agree or disagree with anyone , but give the Cork muppet a wide birth , hes doing the rounds hes done Dublin most summer , within 24 hours of AI day he started on Kerry , hes done Donegal in the last 24 hours now hes onto this , notice the lack of facts to his post .
Wise up Ulster to the scourge of Hoganstand

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/11/2015 12:30:40    1804610

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I believe player in trouble us is same lad that was involved in Dublin Armagh brawl.Will he get away a second time?

Get away with what? what did he do? Have you got the evidence that we are all seeking? Please publish it, it is up to knowledgeable people like you to come forward with the information you have.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 12:31:16    1804612

Offside_Rule
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Some people on here being very bullish/spiteful when all facts aren't out there.

And why aren't all the facts out there? Why make a claim and then not produce the evidence.
They said he was bitten and that it left a mark but won't show anyone the mark.
They said he was bitten on the shoulder.
They then said it was the neck.
They said they know the player involved but won't name the player.
They said they won't report it but then did, twice.
They said they want to put it behind them but then go running to the papers.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 12:37:10    1804613

Sorry Damothedub it won't happen again ;-)

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 12:39:10    1804615

Im disgusted with the ulster posters this morning , shocking totally appaling behaviour , just when you think theyve learnt they fall back into their old ways, will it ever change , they just cant help themselves they try but they just cant stop themselves ,
Yes on more than a couple of occasions you guys have actually replied to comments from Hughhunt , jesus lads get with the rest of the country his comments are purely for reaction , the biggest attention seeking idiot this forum has , by all means agree or disagree with anyone , but give the Cork muppet a wide birth , hes doing the rounds hes done Dublin most summer , within 24 hours of AI day he started on Kerry , hes done Donegal in the last 24 hours now hes onto this , notice the lack of facts to his post .
Wise up Ulster to the scourge of Hoganstand

Right, well given I am the only person who referenced Hughs comment in my reply on this topic I can only assume you have directed that post at me. If so can I just say, eh????

The guy posts to say that he believes the guy the allegations are against are the same guy who was involved in the Dublin brawl. And then asks would he get away a second time.

I responded to say it was interesting if true. Interesting because there have been posters on here who have not only being refuting the claim but actually been quite derogatory towards Cargin in my opinion. I wasn't at the game nor have I any idea what gear Cross were playing in etc but I do work with two guys from Armagh from two different clubs (neither Cross) who were at the game and both said that the game was a lot tighter than the scoreline suggested and that it was the fact that Cross were cuter got them across the line. And I don't think they were meaning 'cuter' in the way that a baby/toddler is cute in its actions.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 05/11/2015 12:54:30    1804630

Offside_Rule
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I do work with two guys from Armagh from two different clubs (neither Cross) who were at the game and both said that the game was a lot tighter than the scoreline suggested and that it was the fact that Cross were cuter got them across the line. And I don't think they were meaning 'cuter' in the way that a baby/toddler is cute in its actions.

So now more allegations, go on then name the incidents that you are talking about?

I was at the game and it was a clean and fast paced game apart from the odd head high tackle and the Cargin player getting sent off for some nasty fouls. All you ever hear from Antrim is cry, yap and whinge. You'se can't even get on among yourselves without crying and complaining at each other so I suppose its to be expected when you direct it at other people. Perhaps you should stick to your soccer forums.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 05/11/2015 14:09:07    1804667

Good man superchuck you still sore about getting your car stole

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 05/11/2015 15:13:24    1804695

'Perhaps you should stick to your soccer forums.'

We do enjoy the odd game of hurling and handball up around here too, have you seen them played??

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 05/11/2015 15:18:45    1804698

That's it, let it all out Tom - you will no doubt feel better for it.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 05/11/2015 15:42:21    1804709

05/11/2015 12:39:10
Tom1916
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Sorry Damothedub it won't happen again ;-

Dont worry Tom1916 at least you got it , unlike poor offside_Rule you got love when it goes right over someones head


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Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/11/2015 17:21:14    1804742

Save me your pity damo - just hard to understand you Dubs some times. Lived down there over 7 years and came away scratching my head ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 05/11/2015 17:34:23    1804745

I forgot how tough people who put 1916 after their names are. A bit like Del Boy wearing his uncle Albert's war medals.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 05/11/2015 18:04:36    1804758

Offside_Rule
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Save me your pity damo - just hard to understand you Dubs some times. Lived down there over 7 years and came away scratching my head ;-)

Was it fleas ?

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/11/2015 18:31:42    1804772