Pull over in Abbeyleix as it is usually a good place to stop off and get directions especially if your going all the way to Kilkenny. Maybe bring a flask of tea and a few sandwiches.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 20/10/2015 10:58:31    1800500

Snackbox and some cans of stella...we are abit more fancy crikey ha ha :)

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 20/10/2015 11:50:26    1800533

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Ollie it will be Louth v Meath I reckon
And then they are left with a venue headache to play that one.
Hardly drag them both to portlaoise or tullamore
When they have a ready made double header in croker that can easily cater for a possible
Meath v Louth
Dublin v laois
Seen as they winners will meet at semi final stage.

Fingers crossed Hill but there is a lot of football to be played between then and now. One game at a time.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 20/10/2015 15:08:59    1800634

Cricky why would you have to go through Abbeyleix to go to Kilkenny that would put miles on your trip.

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 20/10/2015 17:48:13    1800699

Pull over in Abbeyleix as it is usually a good place to stop off and get directions especially if your going all the way to Kilkenny. Maybe bring a flask of tea and a few sandwiches.

crikey (45) - 20/10/2015 10:58:31

With any luck you won't be giving the directions. By the looks of it you still travelling on the old routes.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 20/10/2015 18:10:44    1800710

Financial warning for OTHER counties if Dublin are taking out of Croke Park?? Sounds like a threat eh?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/10/2015 09:54:01    1800808

Leinster Council initiating the fear factor once again..........


Expect financial hit if Dubs go on road, Leinster counties warned

Colm Keys
Counties must be prepared for a new balance between finance available to them and taking a Dublin game out of Croke Park, Leinster Council chief executive Michael Reynolds has warned.

Leinster counties will decide on dates and venues for their provincial football and hurling championships on November 11, with a number of proposals expected.

With much more seating available, Nowlan Park has emerged as the most likely venue if the meeting decides to take Dublin out of Croke Park for a championship game for the first time in a decade.

Two years ago a Laois motion to take Dublin on the road for their quarter-final was supported by just Laois themselves.

The Irish Independent understands that Laois will be proposing O'Moore Park once again if they overcome Wicklow in a first-round game. The Portlaoise venue's capacity will be 25,000 by the end of this year.

Michael Reynolds, speaking at yesterday's club championship launch in Barretstown Castle, who are their official charity partners, said seating was a big factor in Nowlan Park being mentioned as a possible venue for a Dublin match with Wicklow or Laois.

"There's 17,000 seating in Nowlan Park, Portlaoise has 6,000, Tullamore has 7,000," he said. "Season ticket holders is part of that (consideration).

"Dublin would have maybe 3,000. In general, people want comfort. Even in Croke Park the most popular stand is the Hogan Stand, where there are no concessions.

"There was a survey done a few years ago and the trend was people want seats, a bit of comfort."

Reynolds confirmed that the next meeting will consider all proposals.

"Laois could come and say, 'right if we beat Wicklow, we want the game in Portlaoise.' Or any county could come with whatever they want," he said.

"You ask any player in any county where they want to play and Croke Park is No 1. You ask any county, that's where they want to go.

Realistic

"Counties do get serious grants and everybody is realistic about a full house or a decent crowd in Croke Park - 82pc in general of funds generated at national and provincial level finds its way back in club and county."

He cautioned that taking Dublin out of Croke Park for a game has financial consequences.

"Ultimately it would. Now, not in a once-off game as such, but it comes down to grants (Leinster distributed ¤9m in 2014).

"Any employment is protected, that's the nature of the business. But if counties want grants there will be less money to go around. That's a balancing act that counties have to make."

Reynolds said the ongoing venue debate could "focus some minds" about a 30,000-seater stadium in the province outside Croke Park but that discussion wasn't currently happening.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 21/10/2015 09:56:59    1800809

Richieq, easy to get around that. Put in place a spending cap per county, with any excess spread around to the others to make up the difference, thereby making a fairer championship and getting games moved around leinster in the one go. win-win for everyone.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/10/2015 10:15:07    1800816

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Richieq, easy to get around that. Put in place a spending cap per county, with any excess spread around to the others to make up the difference, thereby making a fairer championship and getting games moved around leinster in the one go. win-win for everyone.

Yeah sounds very plausible, I expected Leinster Council would start this scaremongering sooner rather than later, the threat of reduced finances as a result of taking the Dubs out of Croker is an annual one.....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 21/10/2015 10:33:53    1800821

Nice to see Leinster CEO Michael Reynolds wagging the finger rather than engaging, also his comments regarding the GPA's proposal were pathetic but predictable. I love Gaelic games but sometimes I can't stand the people that run it.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/10/2015 10:53:45    1800836

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1800816 Richieq, easy to get around that. Put in place a spending cap per county, with any excess spread around to the others to make up the difference, thereby making a fairer championship and getting games moved around leinster in the one go. win-win for everyone.

Anybody following my replies to your posts will notice that I comment on the word FAIR which allways appears in your posts , your like a modern Ghandi of Castlebar , the Mother Theresa of Balina , The Florence Nightingale of GAA .
Except when discussing Mayo finances .
Personnaly I don't think your any of the above more a disgruntled Che Guivera who does not live in the real world .
The day you come up with anything to do with Dublin and refrain from using the word fair I will start the Mayo for Sam bandwagon myself .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/10/2015 11:08:11    1800847

Sounds like money is going to talk again - which in reality is prob fair as it is a business they are running!

However, I hope to God we get a nice trip to Kilkenny for a fixture! Even Portlaoise or Tullamore would do!

Furthermore, it is in no way going to have an effect on the out come of the game.

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 21/10/2015 11:19:29    1800854

Be nice if the Leinster Councel actually werr FAIRER in distribution the money around..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/10/2015 11:43:47    1800880

Damothedub, the spending cap would be applied to mayo also, which I fully support, so I don't know where you are getting that from. The only thing I can take from it is that you have an issue with fair competition for some reason...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/10/2015 11:45:27    1800882

Completely agree Hteam. It is depressing to hear their school-master-esque responses to any suggestion of change from the norm. Anyone know what county does the CEO hail from, out of interest?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/10/2015 11:48:22    1800885

Leinster Council are now using the excuse about the number of seats available at grounds, firstly it was the overall capacity now it's seats. Laois are upgrading the terracing at O'Moore Park to the tune of €1 million including new toilets and press facilities with financial assistance from Leinster and Central Councils yet now the venue might still not be considered suitable to host the Dublin footballers due to not having enough seats, plenty of seats for when the Dublin hurlers play there though. The goalposts are consistently changing with Leinster Council, venues such as O'Moore Park, O'Connor Park, Nowlan Park and Wexford Park have seen significant investment and improvement in recent years and are more than capable of hosting championship matches involving the Dubs in both codes, time for the smoke screens to be dropped here and fairness to all county grounds applied

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 21/10/2015 12:51:11    1800921

I'd also be in favour of a spending cap if introduced

But this will still mean other counties can still spend more than others - with some being able to spend up to the max level

So the system still won't be fair

But any additional fund's that can still be raised by individual counties that would be above the spending cap

Shouldn't be spread out to other counties - it's not up to the likes of Dublin GAA to fund toxic CB's... which there are very many examples

Sure a spending cap... but any surplus raised by the likes of a top county like Dublin

Should be pumped back into games development within Dublin GAA

Not spent on counties who have plunged themselves into debt

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 21/10/2015 12:56:40    1800926

And so it begins, the veiled threats are out already, its almost like a decree from on high to the peasants, yes you can have fairness but its going to cost you!!

Such rubbish, the fans want seats, not enough seats down the country unfortunately. Funnily enough when the Dublin hurlers are playing down the country that never seems to be an issue.

Rubbish and utterly predictable, what great little people we have running our games.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1351 - 21/10/2015 13:11:53    1800934

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1800882 Damothedub, the spending cap would be applied to mayo also, which I fully support, so I don't know where you are getting that from. The only thing I can take from it is that you have an issue with fair competition for some reason...

Your hilarious even when taken to task about overuse of the word FAIR you use it as your defence just priceless ,
But to humour you Fidel , are the populations of counties fair , are infrastructures fair in every county , is there the same amount of millionaires per head per county hence deep pockets .
Is there the same ratio of soccer clubs v rugby clubs v gaa clubs in ever county ?
Theres nothing fair in sport ? theres just life ? I happen to be born in a county were we are lucky with what weve got , but Im at the grass roots end of things , is it fair that my local rivals to one side of me can field 5 teams 9 a side on a Saturday , at the same age weve 10 registered players , down the road another local rival there 13s and 16s have folded cant field , and you know what that's not fair that's sport , from club level to county level there are haves and have nots at club level Im a member of a have not club . But do I constantly go on and on about it NO , unlike others I accept that's sport that's life , you live in a cuckoo sort of land and at times Im envious say hello to Alice and Peter Pan for me .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/10/2015 13:24:36    1800942

Lads this wont affect the hope for Dublin going on the road for 1/4 finals and such

The option of Dublin playing semi-finals away from CP wasn't on the table...

And Finals should always be played in Croke Park - That's where a Leinster Final belongs

Just to also point out

How is making Wicklow / Laois playing in Nowlan Park making things fair?

It's a bigger pitch than Croke Park - suiting Dublin / It's a neutral venue for both teams / Dublin fans will still out number opposition fans

You'll have 45,000 Dubs in Kilkenny City

Sorry but the Leinster Council are speaking economic sense..

If you move all of Dublin's games from CP there will be an impact on grants

Many scream about receiving extra funding... so what's it to be

Many seem to want it all...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 21/10/2015 13:34:03    1800949