I've played at senior club football level in Galway and I'll swear till the day I die I never once blamed a manager for my defeats. Never even thought about it. More often than not it was self directed anger at chances missed or acceptance at not being good enough. Is it so different at county level? the facts are that Galway according to my calculations missed 22 chances between widespread, balls short, and hesitation. Kilkenny 10. That is why you win and lose games usually.

galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 05/10/2015 12:07:23    1795895

Forget about Daly too, other than winning as a player he has achieved nothing as a manager
Won a league and Leinster with Dublin who hadn't won either for ages. No it's not an AI but to say he has achieved nothing is wrong.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 05/10/2015 12:07:47    1795896

My thinking on this situation is that (similar to Cork hurlers' standoff) the county board went ahead & reappointed Cunningham without any consultation or input from the players. This is their main gripe, I reckon.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 05/10/2015 12:13:37    1795901

Things need to change in Galway GAA circles. Good coaching and business sense is lacking. I think SuperMac (Pat McDonagh) should be asked about the situation. He is paying for most of this. If he says AC can stay let him stay- if he says go Cunningham goes.
If he stays A.C and County Board needs to look long and hard at his coaching and man management skills though.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 05/10/2015 12:31:56    1795918

The players are the ones who work with the manager, there the ones who give the commitment each year, they're the ones who are driving everything at intercounty level.

I they feel the manager isn't good enough then I don't see the issue.Frankly it's much better as they can have zero excuses going forward and will have to take 100% resposibility for their performances.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 05/10/2015 12:44:52    1795927

uibhfhaili1986
County: Offaly
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1795927 The players are the ones who work with the manager, there the ones who give the commitment each year, they're the ones who are driving everything at intercounty level.

I they feel the manager isn't good enough then I don't see the issue.Frankly it's much better as they can have zero excuses going forward and will have to take 100% resposibility for their performances.

+1

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 05/10/2015 12:49:57    1795934

You cant blame Anthony Cunningham this year did a great job
got the best out of the lot he had introduced some new players
when Kilkenny upped the tempo in the 2nd half it was the players
who let themselves down they should take a look at themselves
the same as some of the Mayo players

wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 05/10/2015 12:59:12    1795939

SuperMac (Pat McDonagh) should be asked about the situation. He is paying for most of this. If he says AC can stay let him stay- if he says go Cunningham goes
galwayford,
Are you seriously suggesting a sonsor should have a say in who is manager ? That's crazy stuff!

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 05/10/2015 13:28:41    1795963

Is it just me ? but semi final and beaten finalists is no longer deemed success ? Is there something in the air In the west that the rest of us are oblivious to ?
I wouldn't pretend to know whats happened in either Mayo or Galway but from a far very bizzare looking .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/10/2015 13:37:14    1795968

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1795968
Is it just me ? but semi final and beaten finalists is no longer deemed success ? Is there something in the air In the west that the rest of us are oblivious to ?
I wouldn't pretend to know whats happened in either Mayo or Galway but from a far very bizzare looking .

Why? Shouldn't teams in contention dare to dream of winning the big one? If Mayo or Galway were happy to lose then you'd slate us for having no ambition. Seems like both are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 05/10/2015 14:39:42    1796015

Too much education is a dangerous thing.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 05/10/2015 15:00:01    1796022

One thing that's different about the mayo situation is they revealed the numbers 27 players wanted the manager gone. No reveal of who was unhappy from the galway camp. Suggests that it's not a majority and if it is its a small majority. And cunningham wants to stay on if all the players were against him I think he'd walk. It's been well known in galway that some of the hurlers can't put club differences aside. The situation in galway is worse than in mayo. I don't agree with it but at least the mayo lads did it as a team. Sat down together discussed it and voted

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 05/10/2015 15:19:40    1796037

The vote of no confidence was unamimous amongst the Galway squad.

SamnLiam (Galway) - Posts: 8 - 05/10/2015 15:39:41    1796055

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1796015 Damothedub
County: Dublin
Posts: 2822

1795968
Is it just me ? but semi final and beaten finalists is no longer deemed success ? Is there something in the air In the west that the rest of us are oblivious to ?
I wouldn't pretend to know whats happened in either Mayo or Galway but from a far very bizzare looking .

Why? Shouldn't teams in contention dare to dream of winning the big one? If Mayo or Galway were happy to lose then you'd slate us for having no ambition. Seems like both are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

You mistake ambition with reality , of course you guys are right to want to win the big trophies , just because you don't does not equal failure , one team only ever wins both Sam and Liam , we failed last year to win Sam, are we failures should Gavin have gotten the chop along with every single coach who didn't win Sam , by your reckoning M Harte should have been sacked years ago .
Its a sad state of affairs that failure and success measured by counties who have not been successful for donkeys years is measured by silverware , by my reckoning gonna be a look of sackings out west if that's your outlook , smacks of premiership football thinking .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/10/2015 16:04:54    1796063

Damo, you're comparing apples with oranges. This particular Mayo side has been beaten narrowly by the All-Ireland champions four years running, and dethroned the previous year's All-Ireland champions in three of those years. All of which indicates that they haven't been a million miles away, even allowing for a shortage of quality in some areas of the field. An All-Ireland title is not unrealistic in that context. You could say similar about the Armagh side of the early 2000s, who lost to the All-Ireland winners 3 years running. Or the Dubs in the early 1990s. Cork in the late 1980s, etc.

Tyrone were a great side in the 2000s, but haven't been at that level for some years. Harte has rebuilt the side and they look to have promise. Different situation entirely.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 05/10/2015 17:49:58    1796113

What is so wrong about losing to one of the greatest hurling teams ever in a riproaring All Ireland Final....Looking for somebody to blame is just pure downright stupid talk....

michael (Cork) - Posts: 381 - 05/10/2015 19:10:08    1796138

Nothing Michael.But the Kilkenny team that won this year is not one of the greatest teams of all time and this year's Final
was not a riproaring contest.It was a meek second half surrender by a team with no shape or strategy and both players and Cunningham must accept responsibility for that.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 05/10/2015 19:41:28    1796148

Appointing or reappointing a manager without any consultation with the players in this day and age is completely stupid. I would be first to say that the galway dressing room is full of individuals and massive egos that are nowhere to be found when the chips are down but in fairness, these guys are giving up everything to hurl for their county and deserve a say and stepping in to say no when someone who simply isn't good enough is appointed is fair enough in my books.

I think cunningham has made lots of poor calls in his time as manager. He has won a Leinster and got to two finals but the two other seasons were brutal and you have to wonder how much of the good results are down to him... either he jumps now or we're looking at a cork/limerick type scenario.

Also, people giving out about dónal óg and the cork panel that went on strike. I'm the first in line against professionalism but as I said above, players not having a say against dinosaurs in the county board who appoint people who are not good enough is ridiculous.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 05/10/2015 19:46:04    1796150

I do agree that many observers are getting carried away with what Galway could/should have won while not taking the opposition into account. Many are of the opinion that the players are annoyed to have lost to Kilkenny, are blaming Cunningham and that's the main reason for the heave against him. That's not the case as the issue has been dragging on for a while at this stage. Whenever Galway were finished with the championship there was always going to be a move. They got to the Final, were beaten by a better team and now a month later they made that move.

We can't be sure whether the County Board were made aware of the disharmony in the camp before they reappointed Cunningham, but the manager was aware and he should have relayed that message to the Board when they went about offering him another year. That he didn't is totally irresponsible on his behalf and showed no respect for the players. He should have informed the Board and suggested that they hold off until they had further discussions with the players. He didn't, and for that reason he should now resign.

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 05/10/2015 20:02:01    1796154

Samnliam, thats the story being put out alright that it was a unanimous vote but like a lot to do with this drama (including the report of the half time row) it sounds like the height of BS to me. Do they expect us to believe that the St Thomas's players voted to get rid of him? Some chance of that, and I'd say there would be a few more like them. I expect theres no more than 4 or 5 players behind this revolt. The majority probably dont have strong opinions on it eith way.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 05/10/2015 20:08:27    1796157