icehonesty that's a load of rubbish.

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 02/10/2015 11:58:30    1795098

Lillis has an excellent record at club level and this must count for something. He almost took the club to Leinster Clubs and I do not know why a club with Portlaioses success would continually reappoint him unless they were happy with what he was doing.

I must admit I am dubious of guys who fall out with their own club. This is a very generalised statement to make and I appreciate that but if you can not get on with the guys you grew up with and have played with through underage and know you best then you have to take a look. I know its a general statement but I feel it applies alot, Fennell, Parkinson, Johnny Murtagh.

Elvisahaha (Mayo) - Posts: 36 - 02/10/2015 12:01:18    1795100

switec
County: Kildare
Posts: 522

1795061 Disagree. Players with experience of winning all Irelands have more understanding of what it takes to win, and have more credibility in their views. Not all but some. Parkinson's opinions to me are irrelevant,, won little or nothing, not really regarded or remembered in other counties for anything, had a few good games and plenty of bad ones, no real reason to listen to him. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you have won and done nothing, a little humility and balance in your views means you have a better chance of being taken seriously.

Won more than Johnny Doyle so I figure you don't take him seriously either?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 02/10/2015 12:21:02    1795112

Breffni39
Did he win more ? Johnny has 2 leinsters, an allstar and a league title and captained his team and is widely regarded around the country.


Does Parkinson have 2 leinsters? And an allstar? Would anyone call Parkinson a better player than Johnny Doyle, no chance.

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 02/10/2015 12:28:52    1795121

Colm Parkinson on Joe Brolly in the Indo earlier this week :
'There is no doubt that, despite his intelligence, Joe has fallen into the trap of headline addiction. Or else he has an acute case of pundit attention deficit disorder (PADD).'

Two words Colm. Pot & kettle.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 02/10/2015 12:30:08    1795122

Switec - if you have a problem with Parkinson why not eloborate on what views he has had that you disagreed with?

Saying that he didn't win this or that so his views are largely irrevelent is ironic coming from someone on a discussion forum.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 02/10/2015 12:38:05    1795126

realman2

he says he is done with his own county based on the appointment of a manager he does not like . Shouldn't you support your county and give the new man in a chance even if you don't agree with the appointment. Is it better to turn your back on your county and throw the toys out of the pram?
A more humble approach would be to state reservations, but wish him well and get behind the team and reserve judgement until they have played 5 or 6 games.
His comments suggest he has moved away from being a GAA man and towards a headline grabbing pundit. He has turned his back on them for now but of course he'll be back talking about Laois football next year when the microphone is thrown in front of him.

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 02/10/2015 12:47:21    1795133

I don't really see what all the fuss is about here.

Former player who has had no involvement with his home club or county over the last few years says he is finished with them. Considering they've been finished with him for quite a while now I don't think anybody in Laois will be losing sleep over this one.

Parkinson has had it in for Lillis for a while now anyways. In most other counties a manager who has had success at club level would be deemed a decent candidate.

He said he was done himself with Portlaoise a couple of years ago after he was taken off in a match, had a pop at management and club officials and walked away. Then he started whinging a few months later when he wanted to go back playing and management told him where to go.

They're a strange breed in Portlaoise though, there's a massive divide between some people involved in the club and those involved with the county setup. Not something I've experienced in any other club or county.

Still though, it'll leave him spending less time worrying about Laois and with time to have a pop at other counties and players.

Interesting how he says they have two or three years to be competitive in Leinster. Nobody outside Dublin has been competitive in Leinster over the last few years or will be again in the next few. If lads who were minor 12 years ago haven't peaked by now then I don't think they ever will.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 02/10/2015 12:50:19    1795136

Has Parkinson said who he would prefer as laois manager? He has had some previous with Lillis in the past and that is obviously clouding his views. Lillis appears to be the best qualified candidate of who wanted it given his success with Portlaoise in the past. Nobody high profile wanted it so they had to look within. I'm not claiming to be any expert but Lillis did look to be the obvious choice.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/10/2015 12:54:20    1795141

switec
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1795133 realman2

he says he is done with his own county based on the appointment of a manager he does not like . Shouldn't you support your county and give the new man in a chance even if you don't agree with the appointment. Is it better to turn your back on your county and throw the toys out of the pram?
A more humble approach would be to state reservations, but wish him well and get behind the team and reserve judgement until they have played 5 or 6 games.
His comments suggest he has moved away from being a GAA man and towards a headline grabbing pundit. He has turned his back on them for now but of course he'll be back talking about Laois football next year when the microphone is thrown in front of him.

why bother sugercoating if you are confident the guy in charge is not up to the task, he should just come out and say it like he sees it which he has done. Enough fence sitters in this world.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 02/10/2015 13:01:32    1795147

He blasted Mick O Dwyer, Justin McNulty , Tomas O Flatharta. Maybe Parkinson should learn how to coach himself. be no loss from the radio.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 02/10/2015 13:27:13    1795168

I was listening to the interview , its a context thing , as in a saying , he wasn't referring to a specific role or anything , it was a for Christ sake I give up type of moment .
For me big opinions for such small trousers

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 02/10/2015 13:37:30    1795171

Parkinson has falling out with every Laois manager he played under. He even called Micko a bluffer. He won a minor All Ireland in 96 but never had the mentallity/dedication to be a top inter county player. Huge attitude/disclipline problems and never fulfilled his potential leading him to be dropped off Laois teams year in year out.

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 02/10/2015 13:52:09    1795178

Who is this guy? Where Laois...isn't that in Asia somewhere?

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 02/10/2015 13:53:23    1795180

Switec it's your own logic that deems Johnny Doyles opinion irrelevant, not mine.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 02/10/2015 14:04:06    1795187

Doyle has 1 Leinster same as Parkinson. We can argue the toss all day about allstars, minor AI etc but like I said, your very own standard means Doyles opinion is irrelevant.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 02/10/2015 14:06:47    1795190

Parkinson frequently makes reference to this message board on both his twitter account and on off the ball.

He seems to think that only people with nothing to do debate the issues here :-)

Maybe he is on the ball!

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 02/10/2015 14:27:54    1795199

An ex player's right to an opinion shouldn't be dependant on how successful he was as a player. However I do agree with the posters who say that Parkinson was overly harsh in his comments on Lilis before he has even gathered his team together. The only thing I knew about him was that he was successsful with Portlaoise and he was joint Manager when St Laurence's won the Kildare Championship in 2009 arguably a greater feat since the Kildare Senior Championship is more competitive than in Laois.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2990 - 02/10/2015 14:30:35    1795202

i think parkinson needs to look at what happened in carlow this weekend. took also rans to the title which has been a 2 horse race and also accounted for last years champs who were heavy favourites. must be doing something rite if he can win county championships in 3 different counties

more4me (Carlow) - Posts: 96 - 14/10/2015 16:23:33    1798783

Parkinson predicted that France would beat Ireland in the rugby last weekend and lost a bet on the game also. He declared himself 'a mouthpiece who often gets things wrong' so Colm if you are reading this, maybe you will look at previous posts on this topic and give Lillis a chance before declaring yourself finished with Laois.

Maybe Lillis will view Parkinson being finished with Laois as a good thing?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 15/10/2015 09:53:16    1798882