Roundball

There was contact

That he caused

To then go to the media... Declaring it as a head butt

Your inclined to believe it... well I'm inclined to question that

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/09/2015 20:35:50    1793921

Bad Monkey

Who's still in charge in Cork?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/09/2015 20:38:04    1793922

it doesnt matter whos over mayo they will find a way to beat themselves.last year it kevin mcloughlin taking a point against kerry when a wrapping up goal was on.this year it was lee keegan kicking the ball to cluxton like a junior player..and the goalie acting the fool with his gloves..years ago it was the keeper letting the ball hop over the bar and letting meath bully them by starting a row and getting mayos best player sent off....it goes on and on..sadly.nothing would give me more pleasure than mayo winning sam...but i cant see it..and its cost me a good few quid over the years to come to the above conclusion..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 29/09/2015 20:46:54    1793926

At the end of the day

PMc had no case to answer

That's just not good enough for some

Mayo were well beaten in the next game

No red cards, no elbows, no fights, no looking to get players sent off, no controversies, no unjust Sunday game campaigns

Just a 7 pt win... and if it went on any longer it would have been 10+

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/09/2015 20:52:54    1793931

Unless there has been a big row we are not privy to then this is a bad mistake by the players in my opinion. The management could not have won the game against Dublin but the players could of, I really think this Dublin panel is exceptional and one of the best to ever play the game so Mayo did well to push them to the pins of their collar.

Mayo won't win an All Ireland till they find some scoring forwards it won't matter who is the manager , O'Connor's frees will only get a team so far.

Bluewave (Dublin) - Posts: 552 - 29/09/2015 21:36:42    1793967

Not good to see this happening for Mayo football,can't understand why they didn't give the job to mc Stay anyway from an outsiders point of view,I think he has a good head for the game and that's what's needed on the line,plus a good coaching staff, but making the big calls,tactical switches etc,that's where you need the midas touch,
unfortuneatly in our case we ave lost a manager who had that and the support of the whole county,can't really say the same for Gallagher,
I think Horan and Mc Guinness were both top managers,and both counties could do with them back in charge big time.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 29/09/2015 21:40:50    1793972

This could set mayo back a good bit. Look at the state of cork after their strike. It caused a lot if bad feeling that is difficult to heal, especially the bitterness displayed by the strikers to those who didn't agree with them(eg the teams who lined out instead of them) . Anyway, how are they blaming the manager, it's not his fault theyve no bottle or backbone at all

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 29/09/2015 21:45:57    1793977

Flack,that's a cheap shot, that shouldnt really be said about lads who give their lives to training they are a great team, , who have been very close over the last 4 years. We had our toughest game this year from them.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 29/09/2015 21:56:23    1793986

Mayo made a bad mistake by not appointing McStay. He has a track record and appears to be cool and organised.The mistake has been compounded now that McStay has gone to Roscommon. Mayo could now struggle to keep their No 1 ranking in Connacht and Top 4 ranking in the country.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 30/09/2015 08:12:36    1793998

Mayo made a bad mistake by not appointing McStay. He has a track record and appears to be cool and organised.The mistake has been compounded now that McStay has gone to Roscommon. Mayo could now struggle to keep their No 1 ranking in Connacht and Top 4 ranking in the country.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 30/09/2015 08:12:36    1793999

TheMaster
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1793711 Belclare1
Master, they hardly held their council. Aidan o Shea started the stirring two weeks ago with a tweet about the Mayo county board, it was all over social media , even the Mayo board had to come out and make a statement saying all was good... and no time is the best time for this.. it is shameful i feel so sorry for Pat and Noel who are good mayo football men.. The players should hang their heads!!

Sorry but there was no vote of no confidence in the county board, it was the management. The two issues are unrelated. How can there be no best time for it? What is your alternative? To go on forever with managers who, good mayo football men or not, are not good enough in their job? Also, people seem to be assuming Aidan O'Shea is running the whole thing. He could have voted to keep them for all people actually know.

Eh sorry, did i mention anything about a vote of no confidence in the county board? i said the county board made a statement to the local papers last week saying that all was good in the camp and the management teams are looking forward to next season.. what makes this management team worse than Horan, Maughan, O Mahoney, Moran.Nothing they are as good if not better, they won Connaght and drew with the eventual All Ireland Champs. Its the players and their egos now which has changed. There is a structure involved in every club/ County team and they have to be adhered to, Managers manage and players play.. You and i both know that he hardly was one of the 6 out of a panel of 30ish that backed the lads. He started the stirring two weeks ago! This will get a lot worse before it gets better!!

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 30/09/2015 08:27:57    1794005

TheMaster

You are deluded. The Sunday Game panelists all agreed that it was a headbutt. But none had seen the reverse angle footage. O'Shea claimed a headbutt. The next day the reverse angle footage came to light which exonarated McMahon as its clear O'Shea pulled him by the collar in an attempt to get him sent off.

The fact you ignore this means you cant be taken seriously.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 30/09/2015 08:50:40    1794018

will the Mayo county board handling this better then the way the Cork county board handling their hurlers?

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 30/09/2015 08:51:15    1794019

I think the vibe I get of posters from other counties is that they are secretly delighted with this news and want us to crash and burn. I have no problem with that and that's sport.
I think Noel and Pat deserved a second shot, that is looking in from outside the camp. I did hear rumbling earlier in the year that things were not all rosy.
I suppose the players believe they needed to do this and I can only hope for their sakes and our's (Mayo people) that is works out for the best. We have put pressure on ourselves for next year anyway straight away. I don't know who better we can get.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 30/09/2015 09:08:54    1794024

Yew tree I don't think there's ever any winner out of a situation like this , did the players really need to have a vote? Like some of them mightn't even be on the panel next year no matter whose managing the team so why should they have this power of getting rid of managers??

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 30/09/2015 09:37:00    1794040

Athacliath, I always refrained from slagging them off before, when everyone was calling them bottlers, as there could always be any reason for losing, but when I saw them this year trying ti play out a four point lead with 20 minutes to go, I thought u saw a definite lack if belief in themselves

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 30/09/2015 09:42:04    1794044

http://indo.ie/SPvOp

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 30/09/2015 09:42:32    1794046

Jees I hope our men sort this before we get into dangerous ground. If the men are not wanted then they have to walk away. A management team is alot easier replaced than a panel of players. The last thing we want is a split. We have been lauded for our spirit and even sportingness to an extent on the field. This could be their biggest test yet.

Elvisahaha (Mayo) - Posts: 36 - 30/09/2015 09:51:30    1794050

clondalkindub - Ah look I dunno. None of us know rightly whats going on. If standards have dropped then its an issue as the players are putting in the effort and feel they are close. Apparently there were "outsiders" in the dressing room after big games, issues with logistics (buses etc) which was all 100% under Horan.
This did not all surface after our exit this year but as far back as last March.

As for Eugene McGee - right on cue, he loves putting the boot into Mayo. Fact is Mangers do matter as he seems to suggest they don't.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 30/09/2015 10:10:48    1794067

This looks like a major faux pas for Mayo football.

From what was said on the radio yesterday it looks like some of the players who saw themselves as the in-crowd under James Horan started to feel a little less valued under the current management. Egos needed to be stroked which didn't happen. They seem to want Horan back and will accept nobody else. I presume Horan is still in touch with these players.

Horan has been extremely good on Newstalk on Thursdays discussing the upcoming games - I wonder will he be on tomorrow and what his view is.

Now I'm all for players having their say and their thoughts being valued but you can't have players deciding who the manager is. Mayo County Board needs to grow a pair and call their bluff, round up the ringleader(s) and kick him/them off the squad. Otherwise Mayo is in for a lot of dark days for the next decade or so.

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 503 - 30/09/2015 10:44:15    1794090