He's a force of nature. Any coach, player or supporter would love to have him on their team.

If they say different then they're lying. Same re: Ricey McMenamin or Paul Galvin when they were in their prime.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 24/09/2015 20:46:16    1792079

I don't think anyone disputes that McMahon is a hell of a player who does great things within the community BUT rules are rules and we all must abide by them. The best thing the fella, and Dublin, should do is man up, take responsibility and let the metaphorical hit. The longer the player and his county deny and abdicate on this the worse it will get.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 24/09/2015 20:46:41    1792081

the worse what will get? what's the metaphorical hit?

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 24/09/2015 21:25:08    1792117

tireoghainabu
County: Tyrone
Posts: 36

True. Not many people know how much he does for the community of Ballymun.

I read that his late brother John battled a Drug addiction and Philly is using all his success both on and off the field to try provide help, funding and guidance to the youth of Ballymun, to try make sure they go down the right path in life.

This kind of news should be out there too.

Angus (Dublin) - Posts: 283 - 25/09/2015 13:37:53    1792329

JackoDub
Were you singing Lee Keegan's praises a few weeks ago? Not a chance

Why should I have? There is no comparison - the comparison is one you are making not me. You are comparing him to a silly WUM, who makes up for his and his teams lack of ability by "leveling the playing field" on their terms. But that is not what McMahon is IMO, he is a super player, both as an individual player and as a team player. People are using McMahon to tarnish Dublin's achievements, but just look at the players he has allegedly wronged, they are not exactly paragons of virtue, there seems to be a pattern to all this.

A fine player who will be around for quite some time yet.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 25/09/2015 14:25:42    1792364

Can't agree with you there arock, not trying to tarnish anything to do with Dublins win but Keegan is well recognised as being one of the best half backs in the game, up there with the best going at the minute. As for the others McMahon has had run ins with lately, well by P McM own admission the Gooch wasn't too enamoured with some of what went one last week and I don't recall many ever raising questions over his "virtue"

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 25/09/2015 15:05:18    1792393

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2802

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JackoDub
Were you singing Lee Keegan's praises a few weeks ago? Not a chance

Why should I have? There is no comparison - the comparison is one you are making not me. You are comparing him to a silly WUM, who makes up for his and his teams lack of ability by "leveling the playing field" on their terms. But that is not what McMahon is IMO, he is a super player, both as an individual player and as a team player. People are using McMahon to tarnish Dublin's achievements, but just look at the players he has allegedly wronged, they are not exactly paragons of virtue, there seems to be a pattern to all this.

A fine player who will be around for quite some time yet.

You said every good team has one and praised the fact, so I cited Keegan as an example of a Non Dub who plays the game the wrong way. I didn't say Phily wasn't a fine player and a great ambassador for Ballymun etc, but I think he deserves to be called out on an eye gouge. Its a disgusting and cheap shot, from a guy who doesn't need to do it. It doesn't matter, that the victim isn't squeaky clean either. As Dubs fans we wanted to lynch Keegan a while back. Last year, I was none too impressed at the treatment Eoghan OGara got from the McGee brothers either, or Ricey's treatment of Mossy Quinn in his day.

Aidan O'Mahoney was doing his best to intimidate Dean Rock last weekend, and my respect for AOM is reduced for this persistent trait over the years. That's why when our own guys are at it, we should call it out or at least stay quiet and not create an appreciation thread, which if we're honest, would not have been created, but for the criticism Philly got for the eye gouge.

JackoDub (Dublin) - Posts: 458 - 25/09/2015 15:14:05    1792400

JackoDub
County: Dublin
Posts: 454

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arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2802

You said every good team has one and praised the fact, so I cited Keegan as an example of a Non Dub who plays the game the wrong way. I didn't say Phily wasn't a fine player and a great ambassador for Ballymun etc, but I think he deserves to be called out on an eye gouge. Its a disgusting and cheap shot, from a guy who doesn't need to do it. It doesn't matter, that the victim isn't squeaky clean either. As Dubs fans we wanted to lynch Keegan a while back. Last year, I was none too impressed at the treatment Eoghan OGara got from the McGee brothers either, or Ricey's treatment of Mossy Quinn in his day.

Aidan O'Mahoney was doing his best to intimidate Dean Rock last weekend, and my respect for AOM is reduced for this persistent trait over the years. That's why when our own guys are at it, we should call it out or at least stay quiet and not create an appreciation thread, which if we're honest, would not have been created, but for the criticism Philly got for the eye gouge.

Excellent post, that is all.

wee_yo (Mayo) - Posts: 63 - 27/09/2015 16:22:09    1792743

Player of the year for me by a country mile, AOS was supposedly unstoppable until he collided with the Philly machine and that was the end of him. Gooch heralded as one of the greatest ever players to play the game was reduced to a shaken shadow of himself when faced by McMahon.

The Irish sporting media can try to tarnish Philly's year but in essence they can't , if he intended to eye gouge he should get a penalty. Only Philly knows if he is guilty or not.

Bluewave (Dublin) - Posts: 552 - 27/09/2015 20:28:18    1792811

Wise up Bluewave. McMahon is a very effective footballer but let's be honest if he was from Tyrone, Armagh or Donegal he would be getting flleeced by Dublin fans so spare us the sanctimonious, hypocritical guff. The only tarnishing him is himself.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 27/09/2015 20:40:09    1792817

Ulsterman
You would be right, he would get a lot of stick if he was from an Ulster county.But I can guarantee you which ever county from Ulster he was playing for their fans would all be slow to ridicule him if he had just won them an All Ireland,it doesn't make it right but that's the way it is.
Every county will have a biased for how they feel they have been wronged in the past and will be able to point to occasions were they were wronged by either refs, media or opposing players and are generally very reluctant to lash one of their own.

Kerry rightly feel annoyed, but I'd suggest they look at around 50mins on the game, watch Maher sneekily punch Jack mc in the face when he is surrounded by players. Sadly a lot goes on in Inter county football and we all run like a hate filled mob after the highlighted events, Tiernan mc Cann was shameful witchhunt as was Cavanagh, if you look back on posts most Dubs said so.
Philly possibilly still has a case to answer and hopefully we get closure on it , not witch hunts.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 28/09/2015 08:36:44    1792870

Over the next year, any time I feel low or p*ssed off I'll reflect on the fact that we are AI champions and everything will seem a little brighter.
Philly MacMahon is one of the reasons I will be a happier man over the next 12 months. Dublin fans owe him big time. When the going got tough he stood up and delivered. . .respect.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 28/09/2015 12:32:55    1793029

Bluewave

Player of the year for me by a country mile, AOS was supposedly unstoppable until he collided with the Philly machine and that was the end of him.

Aiden O Shea was either fouled for and assisted in 8 points in the draw match as well as 6 in the replay. Thats not exactly what I would calling stopping him. He wasn't exactly marking him one on one either. keeping a man scoreless but giving away a load of frees is harldy player of the year stuff. If Philly was that good he wouldn't have to foul at all.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1126 - 28/09/2015 12:49:13    1793037

It's a fair point tirawley but AOS would have been viewed as Mayo's marquee forward going into those two games. How many scores did he get over the 140 mins? Winning frees is not justification for having a man start in your forward line. My mother could win frees. You also have to consider that AOS could not track Philly at the other end, Philly scoring 1-2 and he a corner back. So I think you're being a bit unfair on him. If he declared for Mayo I don't think you would complain.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 28/09/2015 14:16:17    1793112

I heard Philly McMahon on Matt Cooper yesterday evening and was impressed with what he does off the field in his local community. In fairness many GAA players do steller work that nobody ever knows about. Most lads are sound off the field. I suppose you need some players with that edge on the field if you are going to win.
I think all the top teams play on the edge. I think the player bashing should stop.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 30/09/2015 09:11:30    1794025

tirawley baron, no point in throwing out completely erroneous stats, especially when the evidence is there on video, to state that Aidan had a hand in 14 points over the two games is just incorrect, simple as that. The train that is AOS came to a shuddering halt when it ran into Philly McMahon.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 30/09/2015 11:11:58    1794112

In fairness to AOS he won nearly every ball that went in to him, and most were bad, hospital balls. He was surrounded by three players everytime he got the ball (great defending btw) mainly due to the quality of ball coming in to him, yet he still was responsible for about 8 scores. The problem was he had so little backup

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 30/09/2015 11:41:33    1794130

Listening to him talk about where he is from and how he was fortunate to avoid the fate of some of his mates and brother gave you some idea of what kind of background this guy has and how he feels proud of his roots and is working to try and contribute to the area in some way too.Maybe if there were a few more like him it wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 30/09/2015 11:50:02    1794135

Lads there needs to be a clear separation from what he does off the pitch and on it. By the sounds of it he does great work off the pitch but what he did on it was disgraceful. Still a deafening silence from the GAA though which is beyond a joke at this stage.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 30/09/2015 12:27:09    1794171

It was good listening, he's a rock of sense, I like the genuine fondness he has for his hood (!) definitely went up a bit in my estimation. But the way everyones going on, you'd swear there was never a GAA player came out of a council house before. The majority of my own club were from council houses, I'm sure theres plenty other clubs like it. And we often came across setanta hurling club, who were nearly all from the ballymun flats. Maybe it's only a big deal for posher people

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 30/09/2015 15:44:19    1794328