The Sunday Game's credibility is at rock bottom. They dug a massive hole for themselves with their over the top vilification of Tiernan McCann and Tyrone and have now ensured that every questionable incident in every senior county game will now be scrutinized to the Nth degree. You can understand Tyrone and Monaghan fellas taking umbrage at the hypocrisy. Furthermore it wasn't that long ago that Joe Brolly and Cplm O'Rourke publically demonized Sean Cavanagh and Tyrone, Brolly calling into question his manliness and O'Rourke saying they carried around "a smell". Dublin have been involved in a lot of dirty, cynical stuff this season but seem to carry a forcefield around them where the GAA and media look the other way and say " Carry on regardless....you are Dublin after all." It's these double standards that really create the bad smell.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 22/09/2015 10:57:14    1790542

Agree Ulsterman - the SG studio on Sunday Night must have stank. It also was an embarrassing very unprofessional broadcast with pundits shouting over the top of each other particularly Brolly and the attempts at humour downright cringe worthy. The issue they have now is they've got to be consistent with their highlighting of issues at matches no matter who does it. Lets be honest from the semi's and final - Kerry, Mayo and Dublin did all the things the SG pundits level at Northern teams and Tyrone were the only team who actually played pure football. Look personally I don't have an issue with playing at the edge but I'm not a sanctimonious SG pundit!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 22/09/2015 11:12:52    1790561

I would like the Sunday Game and Des Cahill to answer this. Did Des Cahill compere the Dubs celebrations on O'Connell Street last night? Did RTE know Des was to do this BEFORE the Sunday Game at the weekend. If so was there not a conflict of interest? Surely there was a possibility that Dublin might not get fully scrutinised for unsavoury incidents if the host is compere on stage with them the following day. I am not calling Des's fairness into question but can he and RTE not see the possible overlap of interest and neutrality?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 22/09/2015 11:15:14    1790565

Maybe if Des was a Sunday Game pundit,but as the presenter,i don't see any conflict of interest in this case.I'm not his biggest fan at the best of times.Too smarmy in my opinion,always ready for a quick,unnecessary jibe,with that omnipresent goofy expression.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 22/09/2015 11:27:39    1790580

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Maybe if Des was a Sunday Game pundit,but as the presenter,i don't see any conflict of interest in this case.I'm not his biggest fan at the best of times.Too smarmy in my opinion,always ready for a quick,unnecessary jibe,with that omnipresent goofy expression.

Not a fan of Des either. Seems very amateurish as a presenter imo.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13711 - 22/09/2015 11:32:48    1790584

The Sunday Game segment whereby the pundits picked their team of the year was embarrassing to watch.Brolly,being the ignoramus he can be,started to slag P Spillane about not saying a word all day prior to then.Spillane,obviously rattled,resorted to kindergarten insults replying "Joe says it best when he says nothing at all"and accusing Joe of not even attending the "meeting"they all had on discussing team of the year.If this is true it is a joke.Brolly cudn't even have the decency to do that.Giving A O Shea his player of the year was laughable.It was cringe worthy tv.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 22/09/2015 11:37:26    1790587

I actually can't believe this thread has been renamed............it appears the power of the Sunday Game goes further than we thought

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 22/09/2015 12:01:39    1790611

I am not calling Des's professionalism or integrity into account but surely he and RTE could see the possible conflict of interest here? Put yourself in Tyrone and Monaghan's boots again. Ripped to shreds in a very public, damning and personal way and contrast that against Dublin's coverage at the weekend. It seems that ruffling someone's hair is deemed a bigger offence than alleged eye gouging, sticking your boot into a fella's thigh or headbutting!!!

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 22/09/2015 12:14:39    1790625

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I am not calling Des's professionalism or integrity into account but surely he and RTE could see the possible conflict of interest here? Put yourself in Tyrone and Monaghan's boots again. Ripped to shreds in a very public, damning and personal way and contrast that against Dublin's coverage at the weekend. It seems that ruffling someone's hair is deemed a bigger offence than alleged eye gouging, sticking your boot into a fella's thigh or headbutting!!!

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Don't see a problem with it. Canavan is a member of the Tyrone management team and analysed their game v Monaghan on Sky. Marty Morrissey commentates on Clare hurling games, Carney on Donegal games etc. etc. etc. I don't have a problem with this. If you remember the Tyrone v Monaghan game then you will remember that ruffling the hair wasn't the offence.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 22/09/2015 13:07:58    1790666

Tyronesaints, it was 45.40 on the Sunday game highlights I was referring to. I think it was around 65 minutes in the actual game but I can't remember if it showed it at the time

wee_yo (Mayo) - Posts: 63 - 22/09/2015 13:29:23    1790682

Joxer, surely the difference is that presenters are meant to give the impression they are neutral. Can you not see if you are a presenter one day and a compere for one of the same teams the next day, human nature being what it is you may not be as critical or want to put that team on the spot? The entire scenario, rightly or wrongly, is surely open to question?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 22/09/2015 13:37:52    1790690

Wrong again Joxer, Canavan is a member of the U21 management team, not involved with seniors, but sure when do you ever let facts get in the way of the tale you are spinning,

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 22/09/2015 13:51:09    1790712

It's a highlights show ffs. What do people want? Joe Duffy to present it?

It's up to the GAA regarding disciplinary matters end of.

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 22/09/2015 14:18:48    1790733

Some thoughts.....

I think the key point is that RTE sells no licences and little advertising in the north and so feel the 6 counties as outside their jurisdiction and feel free to comment a lot more critically than about 26 county teams.
Likewise the Irish Independent sell few papers in the 6 counties and feel free to write what they like without any fear of a backlash from the readership.

To Ulsterman and some other Antrim posters.... A lot of things you point out are true BUT that doesnt mean its always a good idea to shout it out. Sometimes its better to let sleeping dogs lie. And the truth doesnt have to be repeated. If I was from Antrim I would be doing my utmost to get my own house in order and then deal with the rest of the world's problems after that is done.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 22/09/2015 15:22:25    1790787

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Wrong again Joxer, Canavan is a member of the U21 management team, not involved with seniors, but sure when do you ever let facts get in the way of the tale you are spinning,

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Where did I mention seniors or U21s. He is a member of the county management team and tows the county line. Do try to keep up.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 22/09/2015 17:57:55    1790926

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Joxer, surely the difference is that presenters are meant to give the impression they are neutral. Can you not see if you are a presenter one day and a compere for one of the same teams the next day, human nature being what it is you may not be as critical or want to put that team on the spot? The entire scenario, rightly or wrongly, is surely open to question?

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Surely the same applies to commentators and analysts UM. I don't see the difference. I mean Canavan analysing a Tyrone game is like asking Jim Gavin to objectively analyse a Dublin game. Would you not agree?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 22/09/2015 18:02:23    1790928

Ulsterman, I don't believe you want fairness, you want a platform to rant.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/09/2015 18:19:04    1790941

Why do you constantly feel the need to drag Tyrone into the Dublin contervesties Joxer? "Tow the county line", ffs, you really do think we operate like the Chinese Communist party don't you? Are you really as deluded as you've portrayed yourself to be over the past couple of months or do you think by keep saying look at what Tyrone done/do/did/say that everyone will forget about the misdemeanours of the Dubs? It's you that needs to keep up, the exploits of McMahon, Cooper and a few others means the spotlight is now on some of the more sinister antics of this Dublin team, not Tyrone, not Mayo not anyone else, maybe try asking yourself why that is?

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 22/09/2015 21:35:54    1791079

Good post big sacks.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/09/2015 21:40:25    1791080

Big sacks - I think you will find we are a LOT more successful GAA County than your own. That is all.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 22/09/2015 21:47:40    1791089