The footage on the Sunday Game highlights made it pretty obvious that he gouged Donaghy.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 21/09/2015 20:04:59    1790376

The pundits totally ignored Kerrys penalty claim near the end. Major incident overlooked. Poor match which kerry might have stolen at the death !

conair0 (Antrim) - Posts: 45 - 21/09/2015 20:19:31    1790382

i seen the gouge at the time. i am always watching mcmahon when he enters the fray when an opposition player is on the ground. he is always getting in sly digs,slaps,punches etc when a player can't really see him. if i was him i would watch my back.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 21/09/2015 20:26:27    1790385

He did outscore the Gooch after all,so if anyone will be watching their back next year its all the forwards that will be "marking" Philly.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/09/2015 20:33:27    1790395

If the footage is as damning and conclusive as some believe it to be then the CCCC will have to act.

However if the footage is a bit grainy and not particularly conclusive in that it looks like he might have/probably did then they might not go ahead with a case and lose another high profile case again.

I don't think Donaghy will make anything of it either, whatever people think about him trying to ref the game himself at times, he doesn't seem the type to be telling tales after the game.

We shall see I suppose.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 21/09/2015 20:35:38    1790398

Mike Quirke thinks it was the worst thing he has ever seen on a pitch .

Mes and Cue are both balanced posters so kudos there fellas.

He could of taken his eye out : disgusting .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 21/09/2015 20:46:54    1790406

I see Kieran Donaghy has already played down the incident.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 21/09/2015 20:53:43    1790410

Kieran Donaghy playing it down doesn't change anything. I'd be very worried if the GAA don't investigate this and issue a heavy ban if deemed appropriate.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 21/09/2015 20:59:30    1790415

Looked at it several times and in fairness it doesn't look great but it's an absolutely nothing incident and hardly an ongoing problem. We need to learn to move on and in fairness if it wasn't for the bloody armchair experts the incident would have died a death. Worse things happen week in week out at junior, intermediate and senior club games throughout the country and the protagonists share a few beers after the event and RTE miss another big scoop !!

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 649 - 21/09/2015 21:16:22    1790427

eye gouging is a serious offence in rugby
The regulations provide a scale of seriousness:[4]

Lower end: up to 12-week ban.
Mid range: up to 18-week ban.
Top end: greater than 24-week ban.
The maximum sanction is a 156-week (3 year) ban.

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 21/09/2015 21:19:56    1790430

Breffni39
County: Cavan
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Joxer, Joxer, Joxer, really undermining your stance on previous issues with that comment.

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Sorry Bref boy, maybe it's the banging hangover but I don't follow you there bud. Not so sure it was an intentional eye gouge. If it was then it was a poor effort and Philly should be done for it. What it does highlight, however, is people's selective analysis again. No mention of Donaghy's antics here today, no mention of the Dublin player being flung to the ground by the neck, no mention of the sledging of Cluxton. Just like the Mayo game where not a single Mayo player was held to account for on-field actions, and there were many, yet we had several threads started on Dublin players. I've no problem with Dublin players been criticised and held to account by the media as long as other teams are treated with the same scrutiny, which of course they are not.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 21/09/2015 21:27:05    1790436

Looked at it several times and in fairness it doesn't look great but it's an absolutely nothing incident and hardly an ongoing problem. We need to learn to move on and in fairness if it wasn't for the bloody armchair experts the incident would have died a death. Worse things happen week in week out at junior, intermediate and senior club games throughout the country and the protagonists share a few beers after the event and RTE miss another big scoop !!

I completely disagree with you saying that it is a nothing incident, in fact I think that is a ridiculous statement as is saying that worse things happen week in week out. Things happen in football and most of us have probably lost our cool and done something stupid. However, I think there are three acts that are indefensible and have no place anywhere near a football field or anywhere else for that matter, gouging, biting and spitting. They are as low as you can go as far as I'm concerned. Diving is slowly becoming a cancer in the game but isn't even worth mentioning along with those.

I will say that I'm not a judge and I can't be sure it was intentional, but it looks to me like it was. It has detracted too much from a thoroughly deserved Dublin win and a good performance from McMahon et al but this more than any incident this year should be highlighted and dealt with appropriately.

wee_yo (Mayo) - Posts: 63 - 21/09/2015 21:30:46    1790438

I am really confused what people mean when they question whether it was 'intentional'. He had his hand in Donaghy's face and made contact with his eye area. The ball was about 3 feet away. McMahon has control of his own hands so how can it not be intentional? Can someone explain to me how it could not be intentional?

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 21/09/2015 21:35:29    1790444

Joxer for the love of God stop deflecting, nothing else that happened yesterday was remotely as serious as eye gouging and using how good his effort at gouging was to say he is innocent is not helping your credibility. And if you look at 45.40 on the Sunday Game on RTE Player, it looks like he gave a good old stab at it.

wee_yo (Mayo) - Posts: 63 - 21/09/2015 21:38:37    1790445

Did anyone listen to McMahon tonight? no, did anyone listen to Donaghy - maybe, does anyone really think/believe anything will be done about this? No.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 21/09/2015 21:56:44    1790458

wee_yo
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1790445 Joxer for the love of God stop deflecting, nothing else that happened yesterday was remotely as serious as eye gouging and using how good his effort at gouging was to say he is innocent is not helping your credibility. And if you look at 45.40 on the Sunday Game on RTE Player, it looks like he gave a good old stab at it.


Wee yo - been trying to see this again on the rte player. what minute in match did it happen - I didn't see it at 45.40

tyronesaints (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 22/09/2015 10:02:04    1790500

Aidan O'Mahony did a rugby tackle blatantly stopping a Dublin player heading towards goal. As he is a Kerry footballer and butter wouldn't melt in their mouths Joe et al never mention it. If an Ulster player, particularly a Tyrone player, does it its the end of GAA Football as we know it and the player is personally ridiculed. Yes the gouging incident may or may not have been deliberate its very hard to argue either way but this selective bias against certain teams really annoys me.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 22/09/2015 10:15:22    1790507

tyronesaints

They show it better in the sunday game - they slow it down and zoom in etc. But if you are in Tyrone then you wont be able to see it on rte player because its geoblocked in the north

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 22/09/2015 10:33:24    1790515

TYroneSanints, here is a link with the 'analysis' also

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/sundya-game-philly-mcmahon/309574

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 22/09/2015 10:34:11    1790517

Dublin were deserved All Ireland Champions this year, won every major trophy going.

But McMahon's eye-gouge and Johnny Cooper's "tackle" in the drawn Mayo game are among the worst things I have seen in Gaelic Football.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 22/09/2015 10:41:03    1790527