As well known on here i have great admiration for Eamon Fitzmaurice. He has the potential to be greatest manager with this pool of players. Unbeating in championship in 2 years and unbeaten in 11 championship. He is nearing Micko of 18 unbeaten games. Fitzmaurice has impressive record of winning losing only 1 game in 16 championship. He has thirteen drew two and only lost one game

Stato32 (Clare) - Posts: 73 - 15/09/2015 22:00:39    1787980

I very much doubt EF is all that bothered. Tradition only means something to him if it can be used to secure the desired result: winning may not be everything, but it is the challenge which clearly inspires him.

Let's see now how good both managers are at orchestrating their resources. Whoever holds their nerve- and rides their luck- will win. Hopefully, it will be a clean and well contested match... with as little bellyaching after as possible!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 16/09/2015 08:05:47    1787981

I believe that Jim's record is better. Beaten once in the championship in 3 years. 3 league titles in a row, 3 Delaney Cups in a row and all with a relatively young squad. If the form keeps up and we keep producing decent U21s, Gavin could enter the history books over the next 10 years. I think Fitzy inherited a battle hardened group of veterans. It's hard to see major success beyond the reirement of their older pivotal players, Gooch, DOS, Sheehan, O'Se, Donaghy etc. but who knows.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4701 - 16/09/2015 08:45:39    1787990

In this day and age its difficult to rate a manager.Dublin have so many coaches and have put in a lot of money at underage that its very difficult to compare Gavin to the best Dublin managers of the past.Kerry likewise,they get a lot of money from Kerry Group and have full time coaches in certain aspects that its difficult to judge a manager.Would the majority of managers in Kerry do an awful lot worse than Fitz? You have to rememeber to,that the Kerry players are very smart and clever in real game time,that helps any manager.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/09/2015 09:00:00    1787993

they get a lot of money from Kerry Group and have full time coaches

We get millions every year from sponsorship (like Dublin do from AIG) and hire 50 full time coaches and get millions from Games Development Funding, have to say all of that is news to me.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 16/09/2015 09:45:03    1788011

Cannot wait for the game as this thread proves , weve practically run out of things to say , lets get it on .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 16/09/2015 11:11:08    1788068

Ha not quite as much as Dublin obviously,but a fair bit compared to many counties.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/09/2015 14:13:41    1788170

Care to back that up with hard facts?

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 16/09/2015 17:33:51    1788301

Fitz showing his ruthless side again dropping Murphy and Ose.Best manager in country and this will be justified at 5pm sunday

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 17/09/2015 21:51:40    1788832

Eamon fitz is retiring from management after the all Ireland final

Miler (Mayo) - Posts: 1015 - 18/09/2015 21:01:29    1789166

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Eamon fitz is retiring from management after the all Ireland final

id say he wait another 3 years when Kerry complete the 5 in a row. Would be a great way to go out

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 18/09/2015 21:57:26    1789196

Fitz to equal back to back same like the great billy morgan

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 20/09/2015 14:38:50    1789508

Don't think E F had a good day at the office today.
I thought Kerry were poor enough-- where was Gooch supposed to be playing? Also they found it hard to get out of defence with the ball at times-- poor shooting especially in the first half
Though Dublin had the measure of them all through the game plus Dublin's forwards were out first all the time to the ball Thought A o Mahony deserved his Black and was a stupid enough foul for an experienced player like him
So for all the talk about EF he still has more aLL IRELANDS to win if he is to be ranked with some of the best managers eg Hefferman O Dwyer Boylan M Hart or Pete McGrath

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 20/09/2015 20:52:08    1789787

I think we seen today on the sideline that 'the emperor has no clothes'!.....Rowing on the sideline with the rest of the management team!
Gavin will be a lot closer to Micko and Heffo lad!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 20/09/2015 21:53:29    1789839

All the hype around Eamon Fitzmaurice is an utter joke. Lets look at the facts
1. he took over a panel of high performers, these lads knew how to win all irelands long before he landed.
2. The so call big calls were all calls managers up and down the countries make them day in day out. what was he give such elevated status for decisions and call every manager was making.
3. Donegal took Kerry for granted in the all Ireland 2014 and this is something Jim Mc Guinness will have haunt him for every. Kerry got a lucky run in the 2014 championship and they got some outrageous refereeing decisions in the favour in the two matches v Mayo. No Fitzmaurice Genius there.
4. Tyrone utterly exposed how poor this Kerry defence was in semi final and if they had taken there goal chances Kerry would have being out.Also Tyrone showed up how to beat the much hyped Kerry Midfield. Something that Dublin used well yesterday.
5. Since the start of the championship i said that if this Dublin team got at this Kerry team not one of the Kerry backs will win there battle and Dublin would come out on top by close to ten. The score on the board might not have being ten but the difference between the two teams was.
6. Dublin dropped more ball in attacking areas yesterday than Dublin. if they had managed to hold on to half it they would have being out the gate at half time.
7. So this so-called tactical genius too off this most potent threat James o Donaghue and left the gooch on the field who looked a like the pace of the game killed him. His defensive plan was badly thought out. It was obvious to all outside Kerry that none of there back would be able to win there one on one battles but yet he refused to use a sweeper for the first time in his tenure for any big game. He knew Cian o Sullivan would cover his full back line yet he allowed him that role and once he got to the pace of the game he closed up that avenue of attack. I saw and article by Tomas o Se a few weeks ago that Fitzmaurice pours over videos of the opposition till he has the system cracked. Firstly that is again something every inter-county manager and his team does and secondly i think he must have being watch videos of Paul Cafferys Dublin because his team seemed completely unaware as to what Jim Gavin Dublin were doing to them.
8. The weather in Kerry has being awful the last 2 weeks so the Kerry lads had being training in conditions similar to the games condition for the last 2 weeks so they cannot blame that in fact Dublin dropped more ball than Kerry on the day. Then to say say that Kerry didn't perform is a joke they performed at the level they are at. a team with some good attackers and alot of slow defenders who could not deal with real pace and power.
If Jack o Connor was in charge of that team do i think they would have being as badly prepared. The answer is No.

Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 186 - 21/09/2015 09:53:04    1789890

Back to back finals. Not bad for someone managing a team in transition.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 21/09/2015 10:16:35    1789909

As O'Rourke said at half time, it's easy to look like a tactical genius when your players are winning the individual battles. Trouble for Kerry yesterday, is that none of them were, so it didn't matter what tactics you tried, they were going to be on a loser.
Pretty sure you'll see Jack O'Connor back in charge of Kerry but not anytime soon.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 21/09/2015 10:19:54    1789913

Think EF was shown to be very average yesterday.Easy to call someone a genius when things are going well for you and yesterday he got a lot wrong.Gavin out foxed him and should be commended for sticking to his philosophy and playing the game the way Dublin do.
Fitzmaurice always struck me as a decent sort but think some were getting carried away but I suppose that's only human too.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 21/09/2015 10:34:28    1789930

I disagree with the criticism of Fitzmaurice.

He has done an excellent job and I think his players lost their battles yesterday, can't fault him for that. There have been some excellent managers at the top level in Gaelic Football this decade. Horan, McGuinness, Gavin, Fitzmaurice, Harte, Gilroy. Gaelic games are lucky to have people of this calibre promoting their sport.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 21/09/2015 10:41:14    1789938

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Think EF was shown to be very average yesterday.Easy to call someone a genius when things are going well for you and yesterday he got a lot wrong.Gavin out foxed him and should be commended for sticking to his philosophy and playing the game the way Dublin do.
Fitzmaurice always struck me as a decent sort but think some were getting carried away but I suppose that's only human too.

12 months ago Gavin was very average cos of how Donegal beat them.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 21/09/2015 10:50:23    1789945