Thanks Ulsterman Il definatly have a read of that.
Im still fairly young so wouldnt be well up on the troubles
but the naivety of some of the posters is shocking to be honest.
Of course this was sectarian attack and to call it anything else
is just lies

BaileBhlainsear (Dublin) - Posts: 27 - 14/09/2015 08:33:33    1786793

I see i am been a accused of all sorts.
Let me be very clear, i condemned this mindless act of vandalism. That is how the authorities have described it.
My point is that the gaa is not under attack, it was at most 2/3 hooligans who did this, they are everywhere. Now i can see from what's gone on before why some would worry is this a return to the past, but comments like under attack are akin to what fox news uses to stoke fear and reaction, better off organizing fundraisers of which i would happily contribute too.
There is no point automatically assuming that its sectarianism (it probably is) but those bigots that did this then are winning as it results in tit for tat . We have had enough of that to last a lifetime.
Condenm it, move on, build a better clubhouse and let the psni do their job, without instilling fear and seeds of revenge in people.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/09/2015 08:40:19    1786796

Well this is the second week in a row where there has been an attack at GAA clubs within 20 miles of each other, There has been nothing to say that these two incidents are linked but how many other attacks does there need to be before assumptions are made reality. When I heard about the Augher scenario I though that it was in a rural location a could get away from it, The Moy on a Sat night can be a busy place, with houses close to the pitch. This needs to be addressed and security measures for clubs need to be looked at to prevent this sort of thing happening again and try nip it in the butt before things gets out of hand.

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 14/09/2015 08:56:12    1786806

Have to agree with arock and RD. Terrible act yes but until we know who did it we can not pass much comment.

Id say its likely that it may have been sectarian. could also have just been someone disgruntled with the club.

This chip on the northern shoulder has to go.

Here are some possible reasons

Sectarian/hate attack
someone disgruntled with the club
kids being kids
insurance job
somone looking to provoke further attacks by making it look like a hate crime. This has happened up here quite a bit over the years

Terrible yes! Conclusive NO!

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 14/09/2015 09:11:06    1786824

Is it really so bad? I mean has anyone seen the Moy clubhouse and changing facilities,lets just say its not old Trafford.
Perhaps they can now get a better clubhouse ?? This could be a blessing in disguise....

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 14/09/2015 09:13:09    1786825

Ulsterman
brendtheredhand

As a genealogist I know that the past is important. That we should never forget who and what we are but not to the point that it is more important than those living and breathing in the present. As Royaldunne says, vandalism is everywhere, don't give arson and criminality an excuse, all you can do is rebuild, make better and hope the police do their job.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 14/09/2015 09:22:12    1786836

Well said arock. Too many people up here look back not forward and dispise the people from the other side who do the same. Lead by example

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 14/09/2015 09:30:34    1786845

I see the old NIO tit for tat cliché being fired about randomly again

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 14/09/2015 09:31:04    1786846

To those saying these attacks are anything but sectarian - wise up! A lot of people here obviously very short in the tooth.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 14/09/2015 09:33:36    1786850

Read this article on St Endas GAA club in Belfast

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/aug/22/northernireland.rosiecowan

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 14/09/2015 09:34:29    1786851

Royaldunne's views to me are typical of the southern free state mindset,some of our worst enemies have always been our 'own' people. It's no wonder this current government has failed miserably to play it's part as joint guarantors of the GFA. they just don't give a damn about the six counties, check that, 7 counties because they have no interest in Donegal either.
I have great sympathy for our GAA family in the six counties,we'd have the same issues here but they are a bit tamer this side of the ditch.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 14/09/2015 09:42:41    1786858

DoireCityFC
County: Derry
Posts: 995

1786845
Well said arock. Too many people up here look back not forward and dispise the people from the other side who do the same. Lead by example

Says walter mitty, do you not realise you are the 'other side'.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 14/09/2015 09:43:45    1786860

Have to agree with arock and RD. Terrible act yes but until we know who did it we can not pass much comment.

Id say its likely that it may have been sectarian. could also have just been someone disgruntled with the club.

This chip on the northern shoulder has to go.

Here are some possible reasons

Sectarian/hate attack
someone disgruntled with the club
kids being kids
insurance job
somone looking to provoke further attacks by making it look like a hate crime. This has happened up here quite a bit over the years

Terrible yes! Conclusive NO!


Aye we're forever burning our own GAA clubs, cutting down posts, throwing glass on pitches etc all with the aim to make it look like it was the 'prods'!
If you or the meath royal believe that then show us the proof/conviction of any GAA/catholic man who has been charged for doing it.

We have chips on our shoulders for good reason!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 14/09/2015 09:48:13    1786867

royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 8220
as it results in tit for tat .

the old apologist line for hate crimes against Irish Catholics in the 6 counties, I generally don't engage with people like you and your ilk. Away on with you and make your excuses and may God forgive you and your kind.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 14/09/2015 09:49:37    1786868

The GAA have been under attack in the North since the troubles broke out in 1969.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 14/09/2015 09:50:06    1786869

Sadly this type of sectarian attack is typical of the
Unionist/Loyalist mentality.

Over two decades on from the first IRA ceasefire and
there is not a shred of evidence that their position
has softened at all. Currently they are trying to bring
down the power sharing executive because a man got shot
in an internal feud.

Such attacks are not surprising by a section of the
community that still thinks they are living in 1690.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 14/09/2015 09:51:49    1786871

Well said doire. You are a shining light in some very disturbing views held by both sides. Jesus look at the Donegal lad referring to me as a free stated, ??? Pot kettle black comes to mind . Keep history in the past, live life for the present, and look forward to the future.
There are too many people wanting us to return to the past as has been evident with recent events. All you have to do is read some of the bigoted comments on here. Move on .

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/09/2015 10:02:03    1786883

Anybody on this island who is of a partitionist/West Brit
agenda should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

That agenda is totally contradictory to why the GAA was
first founded ie to highlight our own unique culture.

If Anna Lo, who is on Chinese descent, can call them
for what they are, "colonial", there is no excuse for
anybody else making excuses for their wrong doings.

If Tipperary, Meath, Kilkenny, Clare, Galway or any
other Irish county were under foreign occupation
I would want them back. As such everyone on this
island must unite to tell the Brits to go once and
for all.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 14/09/2015 10:09:55    1786894

Yes narrow minded in my view. No mention of the cricket clubs being attacked in county Derry. If it was a sectarian attack (which no one knows for sure yet) then it is terrible. If we start jumping to conclusions and blaming people for these attacks then we are just a modern example of the Diplock courts.

Instead of blaming each other for A B and C we should be trying to promote or games to other communities. Ive been to Derry games with a protestant lady who also coaches football. We need to see more of this

"Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world."
"If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner."

Wise word from a man who most likely suffered more than 99% of keyboard warriors on here

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 14/09/2015 10:24:18    1786904

The GAA should increase security to help try to prevent
such attacks in the future.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 14/09/2015 10:26:11    1786907