Honestly lads, go to joe.ie and there is a clip from the stand of the entire incident. Keegan first hits him, then drags him to the ground, has him in a headlock and then another mayo man comes over and hits him a dig too. Its very clear from this angle what actually happened. Imagine you are on the ground, your neck in the grip of a powerful man like keegan, u cant move your head, then you get a dig from the side from another bloke....panic would be the very natural reaction,
Even taking into account a natural Dub bias, that's an unbelievable myopic view of what happened! Hahaha - unreal!
Watch the clip on joe.ie - what you have is Connolly playing the ball off and going for a run. Keegan tracks his run by first running across his line, and at the same time just putting a hand out to make sure he knows exactly where Connolly is. The same thing every back does every game for every run from a forward. Connolly reacts by pushing Keegan's hand away, Keegan puts his hand back up again and Connolly hits it away harder, Keegan slows his run to check Connolly as a reaction to that and they both grab each other in a headlock with the only difference being Connolly drags Keegan down and rolls him at the same time to end up on top of him.
Also - COC only threw a half hearted slap at Connolly after Connolly had already punched Keegan. Not the other way round. COC is still the other side of the 45 when Connolly throws the punch. COC's slap is into Connolly's chest, more an effort to push Connolly off than anything else.
I genuinely can't believe you watched the video on joe.ie and came to the conclusions you've reached above. Baffling.
jason (Mayo) - Posts: 139 - 02/09/2015 12:01:20
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Honestly lads, go to joe.ie and there is a clip from the stand of the entire incident. Keegan first hits him, then drags him to the ground, has him in a headlock and then another mayo man comes over and hits him a dig too. Its very clear from this angle what actually happened. Imagine you are on the ground, your neck in the grip of a powerful man like keegan, u cant move your head, then you get a dig from the side from another bloke....panic would be the very natural reaction, and when u panic, u do what u can to get out. I cant understand how anyone could dispute that? Remember when u were young and your brother or friend would put you in a sleeper hold and you cant get out...??
Have reviewed the video twice and honestly can't see how you've come to any of the conclusions outlined above. Keegan does start it, by pushing Connolly, but then they tangle straight after, and the only punch you can see comes from Connolly, who is above Keegan. No punch is visible from either Keegan or O'Connor from this clip. About the only quibble the Dubs can have out of this incident is the colour of the card for Keegan (would have gone with black rather than yellow, personally).
It's about time we all put the acrimony and sh**e from last Sunday's game behind us. Slate should be wiped clean and let all players available compete. Nothing to be gained from continuing this tit for tat nonsense. What is done is done and all that remains is to sort out who plays the final against Kerry. Both sides must realise now that the refereeing is going to be on a zero tolerance level and the powers that be will deal with anyone carded the next day in the same way. Hoping it's Mayo but even if it is, going in against Kerry with 2/3 missing through indiscipline would crucify us just as it would for the Dubs if they get through. Everyone expected a classic in the drawn game. That didn't materialise but both counties have the chance to put that right and get these pages filled with the excellence of the football............Here's hoping !!
ormance in 5 years. I think Dublin paid us a sideways compliment. They spent a lot of time playing defensive trying to restrict us and sacrificed a lot of their attacking game. I thought on the final whistle it was as good a miracle as was ever seen, that we were pure blessed. But looking back on the player we started playing shitorbust football and reaped the dividends. Could even have won but no-one deserved to lose on the day.
I have no clue who'll win on Saturday but hopefully it'll be a great game.
We played defensive? You's played defensive our players stayed in there positions you's retreated all your players back apart from O Shea you only changed near the end when you's had no choice but you's were the ones who got players behind the ball from the start.
Both teams were defensive. Mayo were more defensive and they didn't change that for a lot of the game until the second goal when they were forced to. I believe they were more defensive especially because of the first goal which was clearly outside the box (on TV replay) but I can understand how Joe McQuillan gave it. Management and team didn't want Dublin getting into that vein of form they are used to where they pull away before half time which I understand.
As to the incidents. Well - I saw Cillians arm throw back against ROC. But he was being held. It doesn't mitigate it how anyone could say it was a deliberate attempt to draw blood is ridiculous as he didn't know where O'Carroll was because he wasn't facing him. As for Philly well I assume he will consider himself lucky after the dive. That was cat. But I don't think there was too much in the headbutt. W.r.t to Connolly and Keegan - both of them were at it. Unfortunately all videos show Connolly clearly throwing a punch. It'll be hard for him to justify it although I would like to see him play. Didn't like Cillian trying to get him dealt with though. But I do think Cillian was incensed at the treatment we were getting especially what his younger brother got in his debut season. And that brings me to Johnny Cooper. Bottom line is that Johnny Cooper was a disgrace. That was absolutely deliberate and you could see in slow motion that he drives his boot and studs into Diarmuid O'Connor. That could have ended his career and was the worst incident in the match by far.
Unfortunately I think that incident alone set the tone and from there on in it was going to be no holds barred.
Eddie Kinsella will have a tough job the next day. I see at least 2 guys getting red cards - 1 from each team. Probably Keegan for Mayo. Not sure who for Dublin. It's a pity as you would like to see the teams go at it in good spirits.
Unfortunately there is bad blood there now. Don't expect to see too many handshakes before the game.
It's about time we all put the acrimony and sh**e from last Sunday's game behind us. Slate should be wiped clean and let all players available compete. Nothing to be gained from continuing this tit for tat nonsense. What is done is done and all that remains is to sort out who plays the final against Kerry. Both sides must realise now that the refereeing is going to be on a zero tolerance level and the powers that be will deal with anyone carded the next day in the same way. Hoping it's Mayo but even if it is, going in against Kerry with 2/3 missing through indiscipline would crucify us just as it would for the Dubs if they get through. Everyone expected a classic in the drawn game. That didn't materialise but both counties have the chance to put that right and get these pages filled with the excellence of the football............Here's hoping !!
Please don't reply with the whole Anti Tyrone Victim approach, but tell why should the 'slate be wiped clean' when it wasn't in our game Vs Monaghan or any other game this season? If rules are broken then if the evidence is clear Player/s should be handed out the EXACT punishment as stated in the GAA's official rulebook. Unfortunately the rule book currently says the punishment for taking a dive is a yellow card offence, this is the one and only reason Tyrone's McCann was cleared to play in the All Ireland Semi Final. Like McCann why has Philly McMahon not been charged by the CCCC and issued with a Yellow Card for diving? As for Connolly (IMO Dublin's Best Player This Season by a mile) he is a lucky boy that the CCCC somehow managed to clear the Mayo Player Keane, of a clear striking offence. Connolly's legal team will easily get him off on the grounds of clear discrimination and even tough he stupidly reacted by punching Keegan he will avoid suspension for A Clear Red Card Offence as per Official GAA rulebook. What has become quite clear here in this year's all Ireland series is the Rules for Gaelic football will have to be updated to meet the demands of modern game. Loopholes mean the punishment hardly ever fits the crime nowdays and Yes McCann, McMahon, O'Shea or any player who makes a clear dive or fakes injury to get another player in trouble should in the future be deterred by a new proper clearly defined LOOPHOLE FREE RULE. Same goes for striking or any other serious fouls like kicking out or throwing an elbow. These fouls all need to have clearer rules possibly worded by lawyers, so the offenders can't get off when clearly caught.