WaynoI, I was saying that generally speaking, if you seen those two punches on a night out for example, you wouldn't compare them at all.

On the topic of keane, he wasn't just let off, like everyone else before him - like Connolly himself before him. Connolly wont be let off just because keane was successful on appeal. If he is it will be down to something specific to his own case.

Also, I realise that you want your guy to get off, but if he isn't, the man to blame is Connolly. He has let his team down.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 01/09/2015 14:49:55    1779942

Seanie_Boy
I tend to agree with you that there is a difference between the two getting into a tangle and one or the other landing a dig trying to break free and the other such cases where a player throws a sly dig from behind etc. However the big issue here is the lack of transparency from either the CCCC or DRA. Why can they not come out after an appeal such as Keane's and state exactly why the suspension was overturned? Was it because of an administrative error? Provocation? strength of the dig etc. At least players and county board's would know where they stand before even considering an appeal. As can be seen from the plethora of posts on this subject everybody has differing opinions because nobody is aware of the exact grounds on which Keane's proposed suspension was overturned.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 01/09/2015 15:06:37    1779957

Seanie_Boy
I tend to agree with you that there is a difference between the two getting into a tangle and one or the other landing a dig trying to break free and the other such cases where a player throws a sly dig from behind etc. However the big issue here is the lack of transparency from either the CCCC or DRA. Why can they not come out after an appeal such as Keane's and state exactly why the suspension was overturned? Was it because of an administrative error? Provocation? strength of the dig etc. At least players and county board's would know where they stand before even considering an appeal. As can be seen from the plethora of posts on this subject everybody has differing opinions because nobody is aware of the exact grounds on which Keane's proposed suspension was overturned.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 01/09/2015 15:06:40    1779958

@Bryanadams Ah Bryano have you nothing better to be doing at this time of year other than commenting on the dubs? Of course you haven't sure you're a kildare fan
and we're now into September!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 01/09/2015 15:07:40    1779959

I think everyone agrees that Kevin K should not have got off, I would say that Mayo CB are regretting ever appealing that decision now given he didn't even play Sunday. However, if Connolly gets off then its another bad decision. Just because they (the CCC or what ever they are called) made 1 bad decision with Kevin K it does not mean that they rectify that with another bad decision for DC.

If I was Dublin CB I'd be using every trick in the book that I could to try to get Connolly to play on Saturday because he's such a gifted player and if I was a Dublin fan I'd be ripping if he is suspended. But standing back and looking at it on cold facts he desearved to get red and he desearves to be suspended on Saturday.... IMO... but you can't blame anyone for trying to get him off!

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 01/09/2015 15:22:33    1779972

If the ban is upheld and Dublin go on to win will he miss the final also??

Is it a 4 week ban or a one match ban??

Bit unfair on the guy if he were to miss two games.

If the GAA are consistent in their bad decision making then the suspension will be overturned.

It was a red card offence but how can they justify Lee Keegan last year and Kevin Keane against Donegal getting their bans overturned.

If you go by the letter of the law these are all red card offences which justify suspensions and Id like for the GAA to release the info on why they come to decisions on getting them overturned.

Nobody likes seeing players missing out on the biggest games of the year, however the rules are there to be followed.

Its a shame the GAA has created this situation now where players and team management fully expect to get suspensions overturned without any justification for it.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 01/09/2015 15:30:25    1779982

Just to make clear first off - I don't mind if Connolly gets off on this one. If we are to win Saturday, I'd like to do so with the Dubs best players on the pitch.

That said, Keane's incident and Connolly's incident are chalk and cheese. With Keane's, Murphy was the aggressor - he threw him to the ground off the ball first in an aggressive manner, then they had their coming together and he grabbed Keane's shirt and pushed his fist up into his face. Keane clocked him one in retaliation - no denying that, and he rightfully got sent off.

With Connolly's, Connolly was the aggressor. Watch the video floating about that shows the entire incident - he plays the ball off and runs, Keegan covers his run by running across his line and just putting a hand out on his chest - not even slowing Connolly down really, just getting a feel for where he is. Connolly swings out at that arm - again not much in it as yet, happens all the time in every single game, until Connolly then tries to get in front of Keegan by getting him in a headlock and Keegan reacts by dragging him down. All handbags really until Connolly punches.

So in short - Connolly was the aggressor in his case, Keane was not the aggressor in his. The cases won't even be argued on the same basis as the video evidence does not support that.

Regardless - there's an awful lot to be said for just letting it slide and letting the two teams go toe to toe again on Saturday. Would make it an even greater spectacle.

jason (Mayo) - Posts: 139 - 01/09/2015 15:56:16    1780014

It's a proposed 1 match ban, so if it comes to him, the draw could be very fortuitous for him

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 01/09/2015 15:58:34    1780018

If he doesn't get off its a disgrace and only way of explaining it is that there must be a few mayo men on the CCC. Keanes incident was way more of a punch and was caught clearly on camera. If Connolly does not get off the GAA should have to come out and explain how the hell Cillian O'Conner is not suspended he throw and elbow and a punch in the game.

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 01/09/2015 16:07:44    1780030

Jason my god you've watched the Connolly video and you think he was the aggressor haha stop it.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 01/09/2015 16:22:25    1780062

When will we know if appeal is successful or not??

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 01/09/2015 16:38:56    1780078

Keegan got off on a technicality last year.. Keane decision was incorrect..He was stupid and deserved a red... As was connollys.. Connollys ban i suspect will be upheld.. There was so much going on in that game they will want to try and avoid letting everyone off.

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 01/09/2015 16:49:09    1780092

The video proves beyond a doubt that Connolly was the instigator and not Keegan So quit with the crap that he was provoked he wasn't He was also on top of Keegan and punched down on his head Connolly shouldn't have gotten off for his red card against Donegal and Keane shouldn't have gotten off either Saying that Keane on Murphy was the same as Connolly on Keegan is complete stupidity Murphy got a tap on the chin while Keegan on the ground got pounded McGreggor would have been proud of the shot Connolly landed

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 01/09/2015 17:09:39    1780117

clondalkindub

Yes of course - Connolly clearly runs directly at Keegan who is in front of him, grabs him in a headlock and the two of them end up on the ground.

What did you see that was different?

jason (Mayo) - Posts: 139 - 01/09/2015 17:11:02    1780119

Pingcity the GAA have all ready come out and said there was nothing in the COC play Pretty much said he was just trying to break free from the Dublin defender

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 01/09/2015 17:19:02    1780125

TheMaster....

Your usual codswallop!!!

Connolly doesnt have himself to blame. He has Lee Keegan and Cillian O'Connor to blame. If Keegan had not hauled him to the ground, he wouldnt have needed to try punch anybody. In saying that, Keegan just got up off the deck.....unhurt and jogged away. O'Connor gestured that Connolly had thrown a punch (Ironic as he threw one too).

But if Keane got off for the Donegal incident. Connolly gets off. Simples.

Dont see you asking for an 8 week ban for O'Shea after bringing the game into disrepute for lying about a headbutt.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 01/09/2015 17:36:17    1780140

Not a hope will connolly get off we all know the gaa do everything in their power to keep the dubs happy and the turnstiles clicking over but they dont need the dubs now because saturday is already a full house as will the final be, the dubs have served their purpose for this year connolly will be banned take it from me,

millhouse (Meath) - Posts: 892 - 01/09/2015 17:51:23    1780155

How was he lying? He was headbutted! But you didn't see O'Shea rolling on the ground pretending to be injured like Philly McMahon. Ohh how i can not wait for Saturday!!

mayoaresavage (Mayo) - Posts: 313 - 01/09/2015 17:54:21    1780158

I wouldn't be surprised if Connolly gets off but if he does the Gaa may as well scrap their whole disciplinary process because it looks like it only applies the the also ran teams and certainly doesn't apply once it gets to semi final time because everybody gets off with everything. Makes gobshites out of referees to seeing their decisions overturned on a chance yer arm appeal. Either back to referee and back rules or just scrap the lot.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 01/09/2015 18:08:56    1780170