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Connolly has to get off

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In our juvenile section you are sin binned for mouthing at the ref , adults doing it in a blue jersey had me tearing my hair out , do I hate it when it happens yes , but my anger to be honest is aimed at players .
To be honest its not happened a lot previously with us , but Sunday was a little farcical .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 01/09/2015 13:17:26    1779855

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there should be no appeals unless fresh evidence is available, the current system is bringing the association into disrepute. All of these incidents should be dealt with by one independent body, a citing commission if you like. If players knew that diving, striking etc would carry sanctions they'd cut out the nonsense

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 01/09/2015 13:28:41    1779867

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Alot of people pointing to the Keane incident as precedence.. Darren Hughes red card was upheld in the Tiernan McCann issue.. Just goes to show you the decision can go either way for Connolly and precedence will have little to do with it

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 02/09/2015 08:50:41    1780349

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http://www.joe.ie/sport/video-fan-captures-the-clearest-footage-yet-of-diarmuid-connollys-bust-up-with-lee-keegan/510234 Not quite sure how people can suggest Diarmuid should get off when you look at this video really.

The red mist with him is often just bubbling under the surface and you can clearly see it rose to the surface last Sunday… The decision was 100% correct and must stand if the GAA has the slight inkling of decency left in it. The question to be asked really is how long the ban should be not is he playing Saturday…

Case over!!!

Mancirish (UK) - Posts: 2200 - 02/09/2015 09:27:50    1780377

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Connolly won't get off unfortunately.. I had forgot Darren Hughes red card was upheld

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 02/09/2015 09:47:38    1780402

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This can simply go either way. Using precedence can lead you either way. Instigating the rules he should really be out and no one should complain if that's the case. The defence of what happened leading up to the roll in the grass just makes it a bit of a hard luck story. Hopefully their in a good mood later - its gas but you simply cant predict it!

It's sad that a great player may miss this game and its unfortunate that the worst punch that was caught on camera seems to be his - it was a 50-50 incident but when you go into these rucks (whether dragged in or not) you run the risk of red and the ensuing ban.

Podge8395 (Dublin) - Posts: 38 - 02/09/2015 09:50:48    1780404

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Well if he doesnt get off we'll just have to beat them without him :)

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/09/2015 10:22:47    1780439

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The fact of the matter on this incident is keegan should have got a Black Card - If Connolly had not reacted Keegan would have walked ant the issue would be done with.

But Connolly proceed to punch him to the head twice while on the ground and deservedly seen red. Conolly pushed DOC face into the ground prior to this, this has been photographed on Facebook and national papers and at the minimum was a yello card offence . Connolly is a repeat offender trying to uphold his hard man image. You live by the sword you die by the sword.

The GAA threw the book at Paul Galvin and very harshly banned him for 9 months, why ? his reputation proceeded him. The same should apply with Connolly and his red card should NOT be recsinded.

I have sympathy for the injury to ROC but like Keegan he should have had a Black Card prior to the incident for holding off the ball. I do firmly believe that the elbow to the face was accidental (Accidental contact to the face) in an effort to free himself. The conspiracey theories of taking him out are ludicrous as if that was the case Mayo wouldnt have identified there most important player / ace free taker as the man to do it, it would have been a player of lesser significance, thats why this thory is codswallop.

As for the Philly McMahon incident I think that the decision not to bring him to hearing is correct as there was insufficient evidence of head butt - however his Sledging of AOS was no stop and if it was employed by a northern team there would be uproar about it.

The most reckless challenge of the day was Johnny Cooper, It was far worse than the Connolly incident, unproved , premeditated and recklessly dangerous , it appears as though he went to break his leg and while Connolly may or may not play ( i do appreciate Keegan had apart in that incident) Cooper should be hit with a 3 month ban. That kind of play is not acceptable in GAA and any fair minded Dublin supporter should agree

belmay (Mayo) - Posts: 172 - 02/09/2015 10:40:49    1780457

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Wicklu

COC is NOT entitled to say to a referee / lines "He f&*(^n punched him", having done so himself against ROC and having badly injured him in the third minute of the game. He is also NOT "entitled" to try to have another player sent off, the referee was already in the process of dealing with it and the linesman had already come on to the pitch to discuss the fracas with the referee.

So what was COC up to - answer he was trying to get DC sent off. Thats unsporting behaviour. I was responding to a post where people were complaining about Dublin players moaning to the referee and thus having the ball brought forward, when in fact COC was at much worse stuff, actually trying to insinuate himself as ref, judge and jury and have Connolly sent off.

It was a clear tactic to try to provoke DC. He has a short fuse, its well known and had been written about in the newspapers that people should "pull his tail and see if he hisses back at you". So that was a disgusting "win at all costs" tactic, to provoke DC and try to get him sent off. It worked unfortunately.

I would remind you, Dublin lost 4 players during the game, two of them most unfairly. Mayo lost one as a result of a hard shoulder charge he himself initiated. That is not consistent with the way the game went … both teams were "at it", yet only Dublin were mainly punished by the ref. Look at the amount of scores in tap over positions Mayo got from McQuillan.

Dublin have a long-established unspoken but clearly evident mechanism for handling players like COC and I suspect he will have to be spending a lot of time in the gym on his upper body workouts this week (not that he needs much more by the look of him).

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 02/09/2015 10:52:44    1780460

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On the basis of "the clearest footage yet" video,it should help D.Connollys case.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 02/09/2015 11:05:31    1780473

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Diarmuid Connolly will get off because he will say he was being restrained very forcefully in a head lock and felt his safety was in danger. What would anyone else do in the same situation......"Hey Lee you might just loosen your grip there pal....I cant breath." Dream on......anyone and I mean anyone would have done exactly the same thing in the same situation. Common sense will prevail and he will be free to play.

CapitalGains (Dublin) - Posts: 40 - 02/09/2015 11:44:06    1780508

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Cooper won't be hit with a ban as the incident happened in front of the referee and he dealt with it by awarding a yellow card and a free. Personally, I think Cooper is really lucky he did not see red, when I first saw the incident in real time my first instinct was "he's gonna walk for that".

Having said that I couldn't believe the penalty decision in favour of Dublin wasn't also accompanied by a black card for a deliberate pull down of a player about to strike for goal. Bad / inconsistent refereeing in my view.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 02/09/2015 12:04:42    1780533

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I don't think anyone thinks the black card rule is consistent or even a good idea at this stage. Although if you are looking for consistency, James McCarthy would also have to be given a black card for a foot trip on O'Shea I think it was. It's all swings and roundabouts and we could go on all day about this but can we just move on from the incidents in this game. Let's all agree the ref had a howler and leave it at that.

wee_yo (Mayo) - Posts: 63 - 02/09/2015 12:44:11    1780570

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I never saw a crowd with such selective vision. He punched the guy, which is a striking offence which is a red card. It's not difficult! He got away with it a couple of years ago and played the final, to get away twice would just show how useless Gaa disciplinary structures are. It's starting to look like the rulebooks only apply to the also ran counties and the rules change at semi final stage. These 'chance it on' appeals are a joke. If the Gaa wants credibility stand by their rules and their officials or else they just look like a complete joke country wide.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/09/2015 14:48:19    1780667

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Interesting.....

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CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 02/09/2015 16:51:49    1780797

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He was guilty of striking...he has to take whatever punishment he gets. In my opinion a one match ban is not sufficient and he should be looking at the possibility of missing an All Ireland Final. The fact he is from Dublin and that RTE are happy to attend a winning Dublin banquet over other counties has to stop coming into the equation. Maybe the appeal process has to be looked at...outdated TV pundits have to have their wings clipped in respect of the influence they seem to have in Croke Park.

mmdtc2011 (Tyrone) - Posts: 125 - 02/09/2015 17:17:06    1780811

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He is from Dublin so have no doubt he will get off. It will be an extrembly short appeal meeting as well.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 02/09/2015 17:17:37    1780812

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Kildare 73 - On the basis of "the clearest footage yet video" and the picture shown on the link above. I do not see why Diarmuid Connolly should be penalised above the other two involved in the incident.I think that would be elective justice.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 02/09/2015 17:17:44    1780813

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Fella is held by his neck,on the ground by another man in a vice like grip, He cant get out of it, he panics, next thing the agressors mate comes over and joins in the fun....any person in that situation would panic and start throwing digs, in blind panic.
What was COC doing getting involved and AGAIN roaring at the ref what to do, he was at it all day.
Connolly was in a desperate situation, not of his making and any normal person would panic.
There is no way the CCCC can ban him, he did literally NOTHING wrong.
Keegan targeted him, got him and did him.
He wasnt the first this year to get "Keeganed" he wont be the last.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 02/09/2015 17:17:55    1780814

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I said it from the moment o connor did it that he hit connolly with a closed fist
it was clear as day
absolute joke if connolly gets suspended and not o connor
they happened about 10 seconds apart how a linesman can report one and not the other is clearly biased

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/09/2015 17:18:58    1780815

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