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Only watching on tv i saw the following which show all that was going on:
Elbow on ROC- should have been a red card
Punch on Keegan- Correct red card and also same player was grappling with DOC earlier which should have been yellow or red
Drag down of Connolly by Keegan- should have been black card
Persistent fouling by O' Sullivan- at least 2 yellows and/or black was appropriate
Persistent fouling by Kevin MCLoughlin- at least 2 yellows and/or black was appropriate
Attempt to strike opponent- by both AOS and Philly Mc- 2 red cards per rules
Pull down by bastick- correct black card
Dangerous play by cooper- red card was appropriate

God help who is reffing the replay

lowballplease (Galway) - Posts: 935 - 31/08/2015 13:32:55    1778945

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Joxer
Where did I say he deserved 10 stitches ?
What I was pointing out was he went out of his way to get Neill Gallagher booked last year , was pulling COC again yesterday so sooner or later somebody was going to react.
Also sick and tired of Jim Galvin and how Dublin play football , they won't go down the cynical road and all this,, did he not say he would leave if Dublin started cynical stuff?
What did D Byrne get a broken jaw for and that in a challenge match. ?? And I think it was even before the ball was thrown in.
Also was in Ballybofey at Donegal v Dublin on Easter Sunday 2013.
The ref got hurt after half time and while he was being attended to Donegal went to one side in a huddle out on their own.
Next think who breaks rank and heads to the Donegal team but D Connolly Of course a brief flare up started with Connolly to blame. Why did he not stay away from the Donegal players ?? By the way that was the Sunday of the biting incident.
Think you and Dublin and J Galvin want to have a long hard look at yourselves.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 31/08/2015 13:40:36    1778952

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The Rory o Carroll incident was an accident, if he had to catch him in the lug he wouldn't have been injured at all.

Jonny Coopers incident was a red card for me.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 366 - 31/08/2015 13:49:38    1778963

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Clearly an accident Happens 20 times a game, just an unfortunate accident that this time his swinging arm caught the man.
Great game tho. Credit to both counties.

white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 31/08/2015 13:52:33    1778965

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Clearly an accident Happens 20 times a game, just an unfortunate accident that this time his swinging arm caught the man.
Great game tho. Credit to both counties.

what about his punch on connolly during the red card incident?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/08/2015 13:54:58    1778972

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Sam I am quoting you here ''I have no sympathy'. 'He has been looking for that'. In other words he deserved it right? I mean what else could you possibly mean? Honest to God some Donegal posters need to start looking at themselves. As for the other 'incidents' involving Dublin that you raise, not even worth commenting on. We have TRS calling a head butt from Philly McMahon worse than Cillian O'Connor's elbow, 10 stitches required, to ROC's head yet the video evidence clearly shows that there was no head butt. A lot of fellas rushing to judge Dublin for some reason when they don't even know the facts. Very sad.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2015 19:36:28    1779363

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Joxer there was a head butt, contact was minimal but it was a headbutt.
COC was being held by ROC , he swung his arm as any player would in that situation in an attempt to free himself, there was no intent in my opinion.
Cooper should have seen red .
Ref had a pretty impossible task.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 31/08/2015 19:42:37    1779367

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His jersey was being held and he lashed out knowing ROC was behind him. Straight red and deserves his suspension

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 31/08/2015 19:42:44    1779368

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Joxer
If some of these players stopped some of the nonsense that they get up to on the field of play we might have less incidents. And I am not judging Dublin at all , just incidents I saw in games I was at when they were involved. We are ALL capable of cynical play, every county but what also angers me is the talk from O Roark, Spillane and Brolly after the game. Never really highlighted much comparing to the recent Mon/Tyrone game.
Also remember the Sean Cavanagh foul on C MC Manus two year ago. How do you compare it with what went on yesterday?? Yet the media went to town on him.
As regards R O C what I saw him at in last year's semi put me off the man completely. What he done last year was to try and get Neill Gallagher sent off , he did manage to get him booked. Don't think it was very sporting , do you?? Maybe you did not see the incident ?
The bottom line is if he was not holding on to COC Jersey then he would have got no belt. Sorry but I can't sympathise with him and C O C is not the only player who would draw out.
What I will say Isthe GAA must act Too many things have happened this year and also refs must get help
I thought from reading articles about Dublin/ J Galvin that Dublin were committed to playing pure football. If so where did yesterday's indiscipline and cynical play come from ? .

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 31/08/2015 20:17:01    1779406

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'there was a head butt, contact was minimal but it was a headbutt'.

Not only was there no contact (never mind minimal) there was no headbutt full stop. Unless you count AOS pulling McMahon in to him to make it look like there was.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 31/08/2015 20:28:44    1779418

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'there was a head butt, contact was minimal but it was a headbutt'.

Not only was there no contact (never mind minimal) there was no headbutt full stop. Unless you count AOS pulling McMahon in to him to make it look like there was.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 31/08/2015 20:31:46    1779423

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Sam using your logic....Connolly should get off so.

If Keegan hadn't of hauled him to the ground....he wouldn't have got punched.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 31/08/2015 20:32:08    1779425

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Sam using your logic....Connolly should get off so.

If Keegan hadn't of hauled him to the ground....he wouldn't have got punched.
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You took the words out of my mouth Jayp. So reacting violently to a jersey or arm pull is fine? Seriously something is very wrong with that.

Look Sam your dislike of ROC is well known. You mentioned it on other threads and because he waved his hands in front of one of your players. You keep bringing this up as though it was a serious offence or something. You'd swear your own full-back was an angel!!!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2015 20:51:10    1779442

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The O'Connor and Connolly incidents are remarkably similar. Both provoked, both retaliated. In O'Connor's defence, it was a wild swing aimed in the general direction of O'Carroll. In Connolly's defence, he didn't cause Keegan any serious harm, at least not enough to leave him doubtful for the replay.

You would think both Dublin and Mayo posters would be capable of acknowledging the similarity of both incidents instead of pointlessly trying to aim insults at the other.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 31/08/2015 20:58:31    1779449

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Think you have hit the nail on the head there Former Poster, both incidents have a lot of similarities but the amount of 'one eyed' analysis going on at the minute is staggering. It's bad enough among us keyboard warriors but some of the biased opinions from supposedly neutral reporters in the media is staggering.

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 31/08/2015 21:13:33    1779468

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To be honest I did not get a clear view of what happened with DC and I could not figure out why he got a red card
If Keegan did haul him down then he was wrong , it easy to understand why DC would strike.
To be honest I have no real opinion of it all and I have said nothing about DC getting suspended.
As regards 2011the Donegal player was completely in the wrong plus Rory Kavanagh did connect on DC chest but no action was taken against him (R K)
DC was red carde but got it lifted which I had no problem with.
I think Lee Keegan got red carded last year also against Kerry but did he not get it lifted
I will have no problem with the GAA crowd throwing the book at the guilty parties, let's have fair play and that's why I stood by Tyrone /McCann(not for his dive)
So whatever the GAA does, I'm all for fairness to both sides and if some one is deemed to have done wrong let them have him up in front of them.
As regards ROC last year, IMO his purpose was to get Neil Gallagher booked at the very least which could well have led to N G being sent off later Now T McCann was accused of cheating and getting D Hughes sent off, again yesterday did as has been mentioned on here C O C not jest urge to linesman/ ref to get DC sent off
So no point in condemning those examples and saying nothing about ROC and him IMO doing similar against NG
So I think we want to see less of this carry on and I want to see a stop put to it. Same as targeting players --- that has to stop.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 31/08/2015 21:23:28    1779484

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Joker
Using my logic -- Connolly should get off and if Keegan had not hauled him down he would not have got punched.
Quite right.
Mickey hart used the same logic in the MC Cann incident---- if D Hughes had to have kept his hand to himself T McCann would not have dived. But a lot of people criticised M Hart for saying that
I agreed with him and also I agree with you in what you say about yesterday's incident.
Because what is happening and has happened is--- the player who starts it all usually gets off scot free but he who retaliates get done
That is a problem that has to be addressed.
So that brings me back to ROC again v Neil Gallagher --- N G gets booked ,, nothing's happens to ROC and off he goes back to his defensive duties again
I ask the question ,,, whatever took him out to midfield in the first place. ??

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 31/08/2015 21:35:58    1779498

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If Dublin had to go and play football like they had been playing all year they were by far the better team but instead they retreated and started playing a defence game using rough house tactics /Sledging,


a few people have mentioned sledging on here . I didn't get the impression that there was any "sledging" going on at all. maybe some people don't know what "sledging" is.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 31/08/2015 21:56:25    1779520

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Neutral views on the decisions.. Diarmuid connolly deserved to go.. not only for that but the way he pushed DOC's head into the ground without being provoked. Johnny cooper i believe was behind the the most brutal tackle in the game.. could of easily broken a leg. Cillian o connor is a straight red. you lift the hand/arm you deal with the consequences. all in all alot more yellows could of been given. a great game and will be intriguing come sat.. i think the dubs depending on suspensions will shade it.. also a note on the PMcM headbutt.. hard to say but with the way he was behaving during the game i wouldnt of put it by him

detruth (Monaghan) - Posts: 196 - 01/09/2015 08:28:50    1779532

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Cluxton should have got red for kicking AOS.
COC swung an arm at ROC and hit him with his elbow, thats a red.
Johnny Cooper stamped on DOC, thats a red.
COS should had one yellow for jersey pulling and one black for body checking, thats a red.
AOS raised his hands to McMahon and was probably lucky for himself that he didn't connect in some form, probably a red if he did. The fact that he did NOT connect means that McMahon dived (I am not sure what the punishment is for diving??).
MDMA should NOT have been black carded, he took it pretty well, but Bastick would probably have been introduced at some stage anyways ironically.
Paul Flynn was clearly fouled outside the box, NOT a penalty.
AOS was clearly fouled inside the box by McMahon, penalty.
Bastick tripped Moran, black card was correct.
McMahon head butted AOS, red
Mayo penalty was correct.
Keegan should have got black for stopping Connolly's run, Connolly got red for clearly punching Keegan, correct.

Also Brogan was awarded a point for a wide.

How could you ref that game with all that happened above and THERE ARE MANY MORE THINGS I HAVE NOT MENTIONED? Its laughable. The players were worse than kids in the schoolyard.

Modern day GAA players are educated, seemingly, professional athletes with exposure to the best food, training methods, mental health services and all the perks that go with being a player on an All Ireland challenging team. You would have to wonder with some of these players. Children.

A small problem that isn't talked about too often is the selection process for umpires. I would say, and can give examples, that most umpires are friends, neighbours, clubmen or relations of the referee. All umpires for inter county matches, should be inter county standard referees.

TMO will be brought in

boomcha (Offaly) - Posts: 39 - 01/09/2015 09:08:56    1779545

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