Joxer
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----- what other games can you say that Dublin played like that yesterday? We don't have form here. Our U21s don't do it, our minors don't do it and our seniors don't have history. We don't have dressing room doors slammed in our face. Get it?

First competitive championship match Dublin have been involved in this year and look how that went, easy to be the nice lads when beating teams out the gate by double digits. We won't mention "friendlies" and large fines!

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 31/08/2015 15:34:01    1779101

Would agree with everything whelan said last night. He seemed to be annoyed at both teams for the way they behaved and by the sounds of it us watching at home didn't see anywhere near the worst of it. I felt mayo got off lightly though. Connolly deserved red but whelan said he was targeted for the entire game yet keegans behaviour isn't shown. And aidan o sheas dive which was just as bad as mccanns dive but not as obvious because it wasn't during a break in play wasn't shown at all. I realise they said the couldn't analyse them all but they showed more dublin incidents and it seemed to be because whelan is fair and can take critiscsm of dublin when it's deserved but mcstay will defend mayo regardless.

Would really agree about it being important for linesmen to protect players and bring off the ball incidents to the attention of the ref. During the galway mayo game this year damien comer was targeted in full view of officials for the entire game and not once did an official call it to the attention of the ref.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 31/08/2015 15:49:47    1779118

One of the most annoying thing about the game yesterday apart from the brutal football was all the whinging Cillian O'Connor did at the ref. Both team were as bad as each other yesterday, hope replay is better

donegalhills (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 31/08/2015 15:58:03    1779128

Brutal game. Both teams played dirty--punches, head butts, studs down the leg, off-the-ball tackles. Really depressing.
Unsurprisingly, since it did not fit the story line, the game day panelists said nada. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

What's the point having them there if they are incapable of an unbiased analysis of what was a terrible, nasty game?
Almost like they've got it in for Tyrone....

liamoggordon (USA) - Posts: 13 - 31/08/2015 16:13:51    1779147

what other games can you say that Dublin played like that yesterday? We don't have form here. Our U21s don't do it, our minors don't do it and our seniors don't have history. We don't have dressing room doors slammed in our face. Get it?

When did I say Dublin always play like that ? I didnt . I stated that their behavior was disgraceful yesterday. Mayo were at it too but with way less incidents.

I am not anti Dublin : no way . I have often been on Dublin forum page and discussed many different issues and I have never been derogatory towards Dublin. I didnt like it yesterday and I thought it was bad form.

What I do take issue with is the witch hunt that went out for Tyrone this year : it was shocking . What went on yesterday was briefly highlighted and that was it.

I honestly do not think that COC deliberately struck ROC and its sad that anyone should need stitches : I hope he is okay.

I also think that DC should play on Saturday because the precedent was set with Kevin Keane.

There are enough WUMs on here and I am not one of them . There is too much nastiness from some posters and Joxer, we in Donegal have been on the end of a lot of it.

I also remember you coming on our forum to say well done after our battle last year so kudos there.

My whole point is that there has not been a fraction of an outcry this week as opposed to when Tyrone play.

Anyway , we are in for some battle next Saturday .

Maybe Im just missing out because we are gone (

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 31/08/2015 18:00:33    1779275

Well TRS I'd regard myself as a fairly balanced poster. Yes I have no time for hypocrisy and I have no time for certain counties claiming to be victimised. Dublin have been the arch enemy for many years and we know what that's like, Brolly and Spillane despised us in the noughties especially. If a Dublin player does wrong I will call it. I'm not going to hide behind excuses, the SG, media or whatever. If we're beaten I'll be first to congratulate the winner but if two teams are playing cynically as we had yesterday then I expect both sides to be pulled up. A lot went on yesterday away from the camera and I feel Dublin have been pulled up on every incident, even when there wasn't one - like the headbutt and Paul Flynn waving a camera man away - but Mayo appear to remain untouched. For various reasons at least 3 Mayo players should not have finished the game on the pitch yesterday. A bit of balance needed I think. I don't think you've made reference to any Mayo incident which puts you in the Brolly school of balanced commentary and makes me wonder what your motives are. Is it because Ulster posters see Dublin as the media darlings? Is it because the anti-Ulster southern media is HQd in Dublin? If you read through the McCann threads you'll actually notice that the Dubs were giving Tyrone a fair crack of the whip, initially anyway and until the Ulster posters started going all 'free state' and geographical on it.

On Tyrone been victimised over McCann, for the dive he should have gotten a yellow like I said at the time. In the end he got nothing. The SG did not spare the rod on the Dubs yesterday yet I'm not crying about our team being picked on. Opinion is opinion at the end of the day and that's all it is. Although hearing the president of the GAA going on about the Southern Media is very worrying. Somebody must actually be paying attention to Ulsterman's propaganda.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2015 18:56:20    1779325

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Joxer
County: Dublin
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----- what other games can you say that Dublin played like that yesterday? We don't have form here. Our U21s don't do it, our minors don't do it and our seniors don't have history. We don't have dressing room doors slammed in our face. Get it?

First competitive championship match Dublin have been involved in this year and look how that went, easy to be the nice lads when beating teams out the gate by double digits. We won't mention "friendlies" and large fines!

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Ah I see. So behaviour in all games should be discounted unless the game is competitive. Given Tyrone's disciplinary record they must play in an awful lot of competitive games so. We won't even mention the hospitalisation that resulted from that friendly nor the province from which the opposition was from!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2015 19:23:37    1779351

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Well TRS I'd regard myself as a fairly balanced poster. Yes I have no time for hypocrisy and I have no time for certain counties claiming to be victimised. Dublin have been the arch enemy for many years and we know what that's like, Brolly and Spillane despised us in the noughties especially. If a Dublin player does wrong I will call it. I'm not going to hide behind excuses, the SG, media or whatever. If we're beaten I'll be first to congratulate the winner but if two teams are playing cynically as we had yesterday then I expect both sides to be pulled up. A lot went on yesterday away from the camera and I feel Dublin have been pulled up on every incident, even when there wasn't one - like the headbutt and Paul Flynn waving a camera man away - but Mayo appear to remain untouched. For various reasons at least 3 Mayo players should not have finished the game on the pitch yesterday. A bit of balance needed I think. I don't think you've made reference to any Mayo incident which puts you in the Brolly school of balanced commentary and makes me wonder what your motives are. Is it because Ulster posters see Dublin as the media darlings? Is it because the anti-Ulster southern media is HQd in Dublin? If you read through the McCann threads you'll actually notice that the Dubs were giving Tyrone a fair crack of the whip, initially anyway and until the Ulster posters started going all 'free state' and geographical on it.

On Tyrone been victimised over McCann, for the dive he should have gotten a yellow like I said at the time. In the end he got nothing. The SG did not spare the rod on the Dubs yesterday yet I'm not crying about our team being picked on. Opinion is opinion at the end of the day and that's all it is. Although hearing the president of the GAA going on about the Southern Media is very worrying. Somebody must actually be paying attention to Ulsterman's propaganda.

Well Joxer I have said on other forums that DC should play the next day and I also think that what Paul Flynn done was nothing : Id have zero issue with either of those.

Also O' Shea wasnt headbutted so the Mayo midfielder has a lot to answer for .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 31/08/2015 19:58:30    1779386

Well played TRS. Nothing wrong in putting the hand up. I have to do it here now and again.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2015 21:04:05    1779457

For me Tyrone have been correctly picked out for certain incidents but I do agree that it's not a level playing field as the two teams yesterday were guilty of shocking behavior, diving, sledging, some awful tackles such as Johnny Coopers who if he was from Tyrone would be slated. Not a good year for Gaelic football.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 31/08/2015 21:20:42    1779479

As I said at the weekend every player involved in any of the incidents will not even be recomended for suspensions. The CCCC are keeping up with this prediction so far.... how can an attempt be made to suspend a player for a considerable time for diving then none for head butt. And the red card will be rescinded... it is actually hilarious.. is it aby wonder some counties do not talk to media.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 01/09/2015 10:15:03    1779607

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So it's all the fault of Tyrone & Jim McGuiness Hardcore, that is laughable, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just a quick question, back in 09 in the shambles of a match between Derry & Monaghan, when the great hero punditry, quoted so often by so many Monaghan people Brolly described Dick Clerkin as "only a messer" was that the fault of Tyrone or J McG?


We dont listen to anything that Joe Brolly says,hopefully SKY will get full control of our games from next year as the sunday game has become a judge judy show this past 10 years.

As for that game in Celtic Park it was Fergal Docherty who was red carded correctly for a number of things,with him was Brian Mullins who knee'd Conor McManus.....Kevin McGuckin had Thomas Freeman by the throath all day and Thomas attemped to head butt him...........all caught on camera and all shown on the Sunday game that night were a certain pundit sat and was made Judge for the show and he made sure Monaghan were going to be made out as the dirty ones.


Docherty and Mullen get off while Thomas get 3 months...............WELCOME TO THE FAIR WORLD OF THE GAA everything about that case was wrong and everything about todays football is even worse 6 years later as im writing this Philly McMahon is clear to play this sunday after clear video footage shows him doing everything thats wrong with our game.

Maybe it is the way to go,send 15 lads out on the pitch let them verbally abuse and physically abuse the players on the other team,nevermind the football that will be played in the last 10-15 minutes its all about the wrestling and mouthing off.

As i said before the GAA are happy enough to let this go on the should change the rules next season and have it named the MMA GAELIC RUGBY BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP.

Gaelic Football is Finished and im finished going to the games as the are brutal.

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 01/09/2015 14:23:56    1779918

As predicted there will be no suspensions arising from last Sunday. Granted I did not expect the red card to go as far as DRA but I was 100% sure Connelly would play in the replay. I also suspect Mayo thought the same so probably have planned for him playing. With Dublin financial might and standing in the game no way were they going to let a suspension happen.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 05/09/2015 13:57:19    1782761

Sadly Sam that is the widely held belief out there. There wasn't massive surprise at Connolly winning his appeal and most people just rolled their eyes at the news and said "Sure it's Dublin, what do you expect?". There's no doubt that Kerry and Dublin are the two strongest sides at the minute but the perception is that both are benefiting from most of the decisions on and off the pitch and sympathetic media coverage. Connolly got off before and he's got off again. Rightly or wrongly many think that Dublin have their own set of rules and a very strong influence in these matters.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 06/09/2015 14:55:35    1783297