By the viewing figures that sky are getting it is doubtful if they will renew their contract unless they get the rights to all the games

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 25/08/2015 13:20:15    1775876

I'm sorry but I can't see the difference in Skys analysis and that of TV3 a few years ago. Their MOTM verdicts too. It makes you wonder if they were watching the games.

Anyway I think RTE just need to freshen up the day time pundits. When Brolly talks about football he is good, when he goes off on one it can be hard to watch. If i hadn't seen footage of Spillane playing football I would genuinely question if he had ever played the game. The RTE punditry is good because they are willing to give their own opinions. They have a bit more freedom and I do not think that should be stopped. Everything on Sky is very PC.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 25/08/2015 13:25:08    1775880

I was quite surprised to read AO'F's comments to be honest. The football championship this year has, in the main, been awful. Are the pundits to ignore all the negative stuff and pretend everything is rosey? I think they will generally make a point of highlighting the positives where they can, but if they didn't highlight some of the negative stuff that has gone on then they wouldn't be doing their job. Maybe the president should focus on ways to improve the game and the championships before having a cut at pundits who, in the main, are commenting fairly on what they've just witnessed.

Some of them (Brolly mainly I suppose) maybe go too far at times, but I would say that the GAA have far more pressing issues to attend to than what pundits say on a Sunday afternoon or Sunday night.

SmallHouse (Meath) - Posts: 291 - 25/08/2015 13:57:24    1775910

I rarely agree with the SG pundits especially Brolly but hey they are entitled to their opinions are they not? The president shouldn't bother getting involved in a spat with TV talking heads.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 25/08/2015 14:19:29    1775935

Exactly. Bar us and kerry no other team has played clean football. Cake brolly o rourke etc are only telling it as it is.

farneyforsam (Monaghan) - Posts: 35 - 25/08/2015 14:19:56    1775937

@farneyforsam

You havent made an All Ireland semi final since 1988 but have been denied 2 All Irelands you deserved by cheating in recent years???

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1338 - 25/08/2015 15:16:37    1775991

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 922

1775869
Sounds like Aogán is preparing the ground to give more leeway to Sky. Which would be a disaster for our games. I don't trust this guy.

Strange thing to say there roundball, feel free to elaborate

I don't trust him to protect the principle of having the majority of our games free-to-air. What else would I mean? This is a big issue. There was a lot of football people in Donegal and Mayo that didn't get to watch the QF this year. That's not good for the game.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 25/08/2015 16:06:42    1776039

It was funny watching Sky discuss the incidents from the Monaghan-Tyrone game in their build up to Sundays semi-final, including in an interview with Harte, considering they didn't discuss any of that stuff at all on the day it actually happened when they were broadcasting the game. Maybe some of Skys pundits thought after the Monaghan-Tyrone game that if they didn't mention the incidents people would forget they actually happened.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 25/08/2015 16:22:42    1776049

farneyforsam

Exactly. Bar us and kerry no other team has played clean football. Cake brolly o rourke etc are only telling it as it is.

tearintom

@farneyforsam

You havent made an All Ireland semi final since 1988 but have been denied 2 All Irelands you deserved by cheating in recent years???

Are you two the one person or relaqted in some way cause you come up with some s**t lol. In 2013 you may have reached a semi if McManus scored a goal but he didnt as for cheating Sean received his punishment of a yellow card and the introduction of the black card was made. I for one thought Sean should have allowed McManus to run in and take his goal knocking us out instead of pulling him down. This year you still had a bit of catching up to do before you say you were cheated out of a Semi-final after all there was 4 points in it (I think) when McCann threw himself to the ground but sure Finley can punch Sean all he wants. that's what I call clean

As for the matter of the thread, The Sunday game use to be a good watch to see all of the controversial points Spillane use to be a class act when it came to this but turned it down a number of years ago now Joe has overstepped the mark a bit here. Numerous times hes goes off on a rant. Wouldnt be a fan of Colm O'Rourke personally.

Sky have got but names from the near modern game with the likes of Canavan and so on who has his big screen like they do on MNF with the wee spotlights but give an unbiased opinion which is a good thing till an extent. As someone said before it if a bit PC.

People like a little from section A where personal opinion comes into effect and a little from section B I dont think you'll ever see Pete going off on a rant and shouting over people anytime soon there is a difference between that and a civilized debate

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 25/08/2015 16:55:59    1776096

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 376

1775876


By the viewing figures that sky are getting it is doubtful if they will renew their contract unless they get the rights to all the games

And therein lies the motive for the Presidents comments. There's a lot of GAA people strangely proud that our games are on Sky. Makes us feel all big and important to be on the same channel as the Premier League. If they really want to make our games available to a wider audience in Britain let ITV or BBC broadcast it on the cheap!

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 25/08/2015 16:59:17    1776100

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National - GAA President slams The Sunday Game



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25/08/2015 13:20:15
tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 376

1775876 By the viewing figures that sky are getting it is doubtful if they will renew their contract unless they get the rights to all the games
25/08/2015 13:25:08
gotmilk
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 2381

1775880 I'm sorry but I can't see the difference in Skys analysis and that of TV3 a few years ago. Their MOTM verdicts too. It makes you wonder if they were watching the games.

Anyway I think RTE just need to freshen up the day time pundits. When Brolly talks about football he is good, when he goes off on one it can be hard to watch. If i hadn't seen footage of Spillane playing football I would genuinely question if he had ever played the game. The RTE punditry is good because they are willing to give their own opinions. They have a bit more freedom and I do not think that should be stopped. Everything on Sky is very PC.
25/08/2015 13:57:24
SmallHouse
County: Meath
Posts: 185

1775910 I was quite surprised to read AO'F's comments to be honest. The football championship this year has, in the main, been awful. Are the pundits to ignore all the negative stuff and pretend everything is rosey? I think they will generally make a point of highlighting the positives where they can, but if they didn't highlight some of the negative stuff that has gone on then they wouldn't be doing their job. Maybe the president should focus on ways to improve the game and the championships before having a cut at pundits who, in the main, are commenting fairly on what they've just witnessed.

Some of them (Brolly mainly I suppose) maybe go too far at times, but I would say that the GAA have far more pressing issues to attend to than what pundits say on a Sunday afternoon or Sunday night.
25/08/2015 14:19:29
Condorman
County: Dublin
Posts: 347

1775935 I rarely agree with the SG pundits especially Brolly but hey they are entitled to their opinions are they not? The president shouldn't bother getting involved in a spat with TV talking heads.
25/08/2015 14:19:56
farneyforsam
County: Monaghan
Posts: 26

1775937 Exactly. Bar us and kerry no other team has played clean football. Cake brolly o rourke etc are only telling it as it is.
25/08/2015 15:16:37
tearintom
County: Wexford
Posts: 165

1775991 @farneyforsam

You havent made an All Ireland semi final since 1988 but have been denied 2 All Irelands you deserved by cheating in recent years???
25/08/2015 16:06:42
roundball
County: Tipperary
Posts: 2284

1776039 bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 922

1775869
Sounds like Aogán is preparing the ground to give more leeway to Sky. Which would be a disaster for our games. I don't trust this guy.

Strange thing to say there roundball, feel free to elaborate

I don't trust him to protect the principle of having the majority of our games free-to-air. What else would I mean? This is a big issue. There was a lot of football people in Donegal and Mayo that didn't get to watch the QF this year. That's not good for the game.

Fair enough and you are completely correct but a decision like that will go to congress, he will not unilaterally make that decision.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 25/08/2015 17:02:37    1776103

I dont agree with the Presidents comments.So many posters on here seem so agrieved with the Sunday Game pundits.Like everyone else i would have my favourites,but even though,naturally enough,im not going to agree with what they say at times,i still enjoy the debate,analysis and banter.Colm O Rourke never bothered me.I really dont see what all the fuss is about.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 25/08/2015 17:32:02    1776127

Sky will no doubt weigh up the difference in what they are paying for the games against what revenue advertising and subscriptions (mainly advertising) are bringing in, just because the figures may appear low doesn't mean it isn't profitable if the outlay isn't high, which when compared to their big contracts it certainly won't be. It provides them with live sport in their quieter times - Saturday & Sunday afternoons during the summer. At the end of the day they will make a decision basic purely on the bottom line on the account sheet.
As for the president speaking out about the SG, I suppose if any other outside body was constantly sniping at our games and telling everyone what poor entertainment was on offer we would be expecting the head of our association to come out fighting and stand up for our sport, why should RTE be treated any different?

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 25/08/2015 17:33:18    1776131

There is more to Sports Reporting than broadcasting the game and then slagging off the participants. The coverage given to GAA by RTE outside that is negative or practically non existent. The sports event of the weekend is clearly the All Ireland Football Semi, Croke Park will probably be full But listen to the Sports Broadcasts on RTE this evening. The first one I heard was long and exclusively rugby the second one started with hockey then moved to rugby a run down on various injuries of the players there was also some athletics and some cycling. All of this creates an interest in the sport/game. There was no mention of GAA. Why? As regards Sky their reporting is positive they promote the games and outside of that they also fund visits of GAA Stars to schools.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 25/08/2015 17:52:38    1776143

and telling everyone what poor entertainment was on offer >> isn't that the point though? The entertainment that has been on offer this summer (and for a few summers now I guess) HAS been dreadful. So are pundits not supposed to point this out? AOF is entitled to defend the games, and would be expected to as you say. But he also has to be realistic. A lot of what the pundits say is borne out of a love for the game and a concern about the standard of games being offered up. Shouldn't Aogan be addressing this also instead of simply moaning that pundits aren't blindly praising a sport that is in dire straits in a lot of counties?

SmallHouse (Meath) - Posts: 291 - 25/08/2015 18:18:26    1776150

There was no mention of GAA. Why? >> Presumably because the game isn't until Sunday & the breaking news stories came from other sports. If there's no team news or injury news from Dublin/Mayo, what are they to report? You're just criticising RTÉ for the sake of it there I'm afraid.

SmallHouse (Meath) - Posts: 291 - 25/08/2015 18:20:55    1776153

I refuse to back down we would be in line for our second all Ireland if it wasn't for cheating.

farneyforsam (Monaghan) - Posts: 35 - 25/08/2015 18:24:19    1776155

I would like yo think small house that our president is capable of doing a bit of multi-tasking and his sole contribution this week hasn't just been a statement on the SG.
Just wait until the rugby world cup starts, RTE will bombard us with updates on an event they don't even have the rights to, don't think its that unreasonable of mod to wonder why the GAA doesn't get a mention in sports bulletins this week, I've heard plenty of discussion at work this week about Dublin Mayo but no one referencing a warm up rugby match.
If you believe there has been no entertainment from the GAA over the last couple of years may I suggest possibly you're following the wrong sports, this last two Sundays alone have provided 2 excellent games in either code.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 25/08/2015 18:58:50    1776180

Yes I am criticising RTE but with good reason. The game on Sunday is a sell out. That in itself is worth reporting don't you think? We regularly hear that internationals in another code bring €40m to the Irish economy. (a questionable figure) It is also an indicator of what is of greatest interest to the Irish sports fan at the moment. Surely any reasonable person would find ignoring an 82,000 sports event staggering? As for the match being on Sunday, your argument doesn't stand up, the rugby world cup is weeks away yet we are constantly informed of progress in that regard. As for your other contention that there is nothing of interest happening, that beggars both belief and the resourcefulness of the RTE journalists. If an sending off incident at a club hurling match can make the sports headlines for a number of days running I'm sure there is plenty of material (e.g. injuries, form, previous meetings)there to report on, especially when it is a match that has obviously grabbed the publics attention.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 25/08/2015 19:04:42    1776187

This butting in is an Irish thing - it's developed from our pub culture and house chats where we have 3-4 lads solving the woes of the world over a jar and all of them think they are the governor. It's groomed into a lot of us. Call it bad manners or irishism. Anyway it not only occurs in SG but also on various RTE current affair shows when there is a panel in place. You don't see it on BBC or SKY because it's an Irish thing. I agree Joe Brolly is supreme at this but I guess that is due to some extra arrogance thrown into his Irish culture and ways.

Redslayer (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 25/08/2015 19:43:29    1776212