For me it was a penalty . Even though Kerry were just about the better side , I felt they got the big calls yet again .

For all the abuse that Tyrone get , it was Kerry yet again who were the aggressors . It's sad really because it never gets highlighted .

Anyway - Kerry are now in a great position . Played poor , had an easy route , relatively injury free and will probably go in as underdogs . Eamon Fitz will be happy

Can you outline what these big calls were?? It was proven last night that the second incident wasnt a penalty but your tinted version of the rules have made your mind up. Do you think the tyrone number 5 should have been sent off for the challenge on Cooper or did you manage to miss that incident? Enright should have got a black card but the ref had a good game considering the conditions.

Fair play to Tyrone supporters i met last night, very gracious in defeat and knowledgeable about the game. They didnt have any excuses and even though i got soaked to the skin on hill 16 yesterday the atmosphere was very good. I was extremely worried when they drew level and thought our previous failings against Tyrone were going to come back to haunt us but thankfully we pulled through in the end.

It was one of the wettest days ive ever been to the match and from hill 16 I had a great view of our play in the second half. Our composure on the ball was the best i have seen for a long time, there was no way we could score by the way Tyrone had flooded their full back line so our use of the ball was 10 out of 10.

Tyrone to their credit never gave up and thats what we expected. If they managed to get in the lead maybe in the last 10 mins then it could have been their day but it has been a very good year for Tyrone.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 24/08/2015 13:24:00    1775233

It's awful frustrating how the referee doesn't always help the team you're supporting to win.

lessbull (Kerry) - Posts: 177 - 24/08/2015 13:40:12    1775251

Amazed at the few Dublin supporters talking about Kerry getting all the small decisions and refs giving Dublin nothing, very short memories, refs are human, they make mistakes and don't go out to favour any team including Kerry or dublin

dmckerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2 - 24/08/2015 16:51:13    1775463

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1775463 Amazed at the few Dublin supporters talking about Kerry getting all the small decisions and refs giving Dublin nothing, very short memories, refs are human, they make mistakes and don't go out to favour any team including Kerry or dublin

Honestly man.. the rubbish about a couple of things missed from that match

We Dub have a history of having some very very dodgy refs

The portion is still very much in the negative... we're owed a fair few more calls in our favour

Especially at the minute

Some outrageous stuff going on with Dublin in the last couple of years....

Some refs have bought into the Dublin super-man myth...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20608 - 24/08/2015 16:58:03    1775469

Deegan got one decesion wrong that was not to black card number 4 from Kerry he called the rest of the game spot on..Anyone who says any different is either a bitter Tyrone man or a person who just loves critising refs in general.Well done Maurice!

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 24/08/2015 17:11:02    1775482

Shame on you all insinuating that referees favour kerry! Kerry are the least cynical team in the country and always play the game in the right spirit, its your own player's fault for having the audacity to tackle a kerry player and therefore giving away a free! Don't you know opposition defences are just supposed to stand back and admire the kerry forwards in full flow, to do anything else will bring retribution from the referee! Kerry are the purists of the game and should not be hindered in their pursuit of scores! Take note you red hand heathens and be just happy you got to see the saviours of our game play!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 24/08/2015 17:55:11    1775514

Unbelievable begrudgery shown here, when Kerry win it has to be the referee. No discussion about how well Kerry did when they gave up the lead with 10 to go, that was unbelievable character on their part to keep their heads and push on. Tyrone played 13 men behind the ball for most of the game, Gooch didn't have a good game, JOD didn't score from play and Donaghy was subbed and they still managed to score 18 points. Ignore these points at your peril Dublin / Mayo.
Johnny Buckley was ferocious yesterday, he proved that Kerry have the bodies to mix it up in the dirty ball stakes.
Forget about the referee calls, that wasn't the winning and losing of the game. Missed free's and goal chances are what Tyrone will rue more so than particular referee calls. Whether people like it or not, the better teams will influence referee's, it's all about how you work that. Don't give me the referee's should get these calls right, referee's are human and are prone to wrong calls just as much as referee's in any other sport so why not roll the dice and see what you can get away with. That's the risk/reward of Kerry's play.
I for one am delighted they'll be in the final against either Dublin / Mayo, we're guaranteed a good football match with either combination.

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 24/08/2015 18:16:44    1775523

From the posts here it would seem that Kerry, Dublin, and Kilkenny, in that order get, unending help from. the different referees. After watching the Tyrone v Kerry game a number of times I shudder when I think of all the titles Kerry might win if they had the football ability to go with the refs help.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 24/08/2015 18:33:19    1775533

interesting article from John Bannon in the examiner

Maurice Deegan had a good first half, highlights being his correct card for Marc Ó Sé in the 15th minute and then punishing Tiernan McCann for overcarrying. However, the rules didn't permit him bringing the ball forward over 13 metres. Maurice brought it forward more than 20 metres.
It was in the second half where some of Maurice's decisions lacked consistency and clarity, starting in the 54th minute when Ronan McNamee was incorrectly black carded for what was a yellow card offence. Shane Enright, unlike McNamee, escaped similar punishment for a clear black card foul and was shown a yellow card for bringing down Peter Harte in the 58th minute.
As for the penalty in the 60th minute, Barry Tierney was fortunate to be awarded it as it appeared there was minimal contact by Killian Young. In fact, there was more reason for Maurice to give a penalty to Padraig McNulty five minutes later when Aidan O'Mahony
In the 68th minute, Ronan McNabb should have been given either a black card for a deliberate body collide or a red for inflicting injury on Colm Cooper. Instead, a yellow card was shown. In the 72nd minute, Darran O'Sullivan should seen black.
Another glaring error in this game was the time-keeping. Two minutes were played at the end yet I counted five stoppages in the second half. In the 36th minute, Ronan McNamee was injured and was down for 30 seconds. In the 39th minute, Maurice took 14 seconds to remove Tyrone selector Gavin Devlin from behind the goals. In the 53rd minute, Colm Cooper was injured for one minute. In the 57th minute, Colm Cavanagh was down for 53 seconds before Cooper was again down in the 68th minute, for one minute and 36 seconds. Add those five stoppages up and they amount to four minutes and 13 seconds. According to the rules, that should have been rounded up to five minutes.

FrankAnnyalla (Monaghan) - Posts: 339 - 25/08/2015 09:55:17    1775702

Kerry are a fairly cynical team in my opinion. If they stuck to playing football they would be ok. But they don't, they insist on denigrating their oppositon also. A bit like Alex Ferguson used to do at Man Utd. They used to say "Fergie time"- that is play until Utd win. No team ever got a peno at Old Trafford even when it was a blatant foul. Much the same with Kerry in my opinion.
Eventually the Premier league had enough of this nonsense and Ferguson left and Utd have struggled. I hope the same thing happens to Kerry. Let them concentrate on their hurling team now.
I hope Mayo or Dublin end this GAA farce! Or else the game will suffer in my opinion.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 25/08/2015 09:56:08    1775705

What's even more scary is the Kerry posters think we're making all this up.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 25/08/2015 10:20:39    1775724

Ridiculous thread, full of sour grapes, some very ungracious posters from all counties on here.

Kerry kicked 18 points in atrocious conditions Sunday. They are the Kings.

SeppBlatter (Dublin) - Posts: 187 - 25/08/2015 10:59:39    1775765

I love the way Marc O'Se says Sunday night that Shane Enright was "never going to let the Tyrone lad through so took him down" I wonder if its was the other way round what would he have to say?

Villatown (Leitrim) - Posts: 902 - 25/08/2015 11:50:29    1775797

Galwayford, that last post is all the evidence I need to make my mind up about your 'expert' views on last Sunday's game. Enjoy the Premiership this season.

For my fellow Kerry posters, I know we all have busy lives esp on Sundays what with milking the cows, drawing home the turf, or serving pints to yanks. But could someone become an anorak for the day, get out a pen and paper and make a long list of every refereeing decision which was wrong and favoured either Dublin or Mayo.

Could you then post that up here next Monday and shove it down the throats of the usual posse of ungracious, hypocritical Dublin and Mayo posters to try and defend??

God I really hope we retain our title, this place will explode with enough stuff to keep us all laughing down in the Kingdom until the League.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 25/08/2015 12:18:50    1775829

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What's even more scary is the Kerry posters think we're making all this up

You seem like a regular poster on here and im sure your very knowledgeable about all things GAA.

Im curious about how you believe the ref favoured us the last day?? Can you give some examples?

Enright should have got a black card but the same could be argued for a red on the late tackle on the gooch.
Other then that i dont get the inference that the ref helped us in any way shape or form as there was dubious calls made on both teams.

These kerry and ref threads keep popping up on this site after every game so im wondering whats the reasoning for it this time??

If Tyrone had came back from 5 points down and managed to beat us then im sure countless threads would be created about us bottling a lead again and Tyrone being too tough for us.

Instead of praising the both sets of players for a very enjoyable game to have witnessed in the pouring rain.. the focus is predictably turned to Kerry and the ref once more.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 25/08/2015 14:50:12    1775962

I have to say lads Maurice Deegan saved our bacon on Sunday. He kicked some beautiful points there at the end and his save from Conor McAlliskey was right out of the top drawer. Also, the way he denied Tyrone that stonewall penalty was pure class. My man of the match no question about it!

14KY37 (Kerry) - Posts: 30 - 25/08/2015 15:07:19    1775981

BigJohn.6_8

Deegan got one decesion wrong that was not to black card number 4 from Kerry he called the rest of the game spot on..Anyone who says any different is either a bitter Tyrone man or a person who just loves critising refs in general.Well done Maurice!

Big John, I for one am not bitter about the result of the game on Sunday nor do I blame Deegan for our defeat but Deegan did make a few mistakes.

Ronan McNamee - Should have been Yellow and not black
Shane Enright - Should have been Black not Yellow
NcNabb - Easily see Red with the challenge on cooper - High and dangerous
Penalty shout was proved to be called correct by SG
Moved the ball up from 65-45 - my count thats not 13m

Deegan didnt have a bad game and didnt effect the result of the game, Tyrone failed to take their chances some people going as far as it was lost in Edendork (McCurry and Morgan) I think Tyrone fans haven't complained that much it seems to be other counties that have the problem with the refereeing, maybe they seen more than what I seen at the game and on the SG.

Simple Fact: Kerry were more clinical in front of goals than Tyrone.

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 25/08/2015 15:35:22    1776011

Find_the_space I presume the incident you are referring to when Deegan moved the ball from the 65 to the 45 was for McCann overcarrying? McCann received that pass 3 metres outside his own 45 and never bounced or soloed the ball so I would say the free was originally given around 52 metres from the Tyrone goal. Just because McCann didn't stop running with it until outside the 65 doesn't mean that is where the foul for overcarrying should have been taken from. On that one, yet again, Deegan was spot on. I agree with you on all the others.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 25/08/2015 16:07:41    1776041

Soma maybe it was, As I said I was at the game and it's completely different being at the game and watching it on TV. But as I said he made a few mistakes but I for one am not calling for his head cause he didnt cause us the game. I actually think compared to Duffy Deegan is a quality referee and should be in for a shout at the final. Joe Brolly, even though from what I've heard was backing Tyrone on the Sunday Game Live was harsh with his comments, he just seems to go over the top with everything and has to be a talking point every Monday with his "Analysis"

From what I see on this thread there is very little from Tyrone commenting on this about Deegan's performance and seems to be from other counties thinking that he favored Kerry. I don't think he could have done anything more on Sunday.

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 25/08/2015 16:24:57    1776053

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Soma maybe it was, As I said I was at the game and it's completely different being at the game and watching it on TV. But as I said he made a few mistakes but I for one am not calling for his head cause he didnt cause us the game. I actually think compared to Duffy Deegan is a quality referee and should be in for a shout at the final. Joe Brolly, even though from what I've heard was backing Tyrone on the Sunday Game Live was harsh with his comments, he just seems to go over the top with everything and has to be a talking point every Monday with his "Analysis"

From what I see on this thread there is very little from Tyrone commenting on this about Deegan's performance and seems to be from other counties thinking that he favored Kerry. I don't think he could have done anything more on Sunday.

Spot on there find the space.

Tyrone fans on here seem to be very fair on there views and anyone at the game could see that Deegans performance didnt have a major impact on the result as he made a few bad calls for both teams in what was very difficult circumstances to officiate.

After the game Tyrone fans i met all through the evening after the game were very gracious in defeat and maybe others can learn from there attitude to the game. They were a breath of fresh air in comparison to most teams fans.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 25/08/2015 16:45:13    1776085