benjyyy
County: Donegal
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People are calling the penalty soft but we're there not 2 Kerry fellas tackling Tierney from behind and neither of them touched the ball? Or am I wrong there? T

Is that not the kind of tackling Tyrone introduced in 03 ;-)

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 23/08/2015 21:08:34    1774859

This is getting quite amusing. Ref made some mistakes for both sides but was fair in general. He has a thankless job. Better team won

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 23/08/2015 21:09:06    1774860

pdempsey
This is getting quite amusing. Ref made some mistakes for both sides but was fair in general. He has a thankless job. Better team won

That pretty much sums it all up I would say.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4903 - 23/08/2015 21:18:44    1774870

Wouldn't argue too much with that dempsey

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 23/08/2015 21:21:07    1774872

First peno was very soft, ref was not the difference today. Tyrone missed key goal chances and a few frees, nothing to do with the ref. A bit like my own county last year, we had nobody to blame but ourselves.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7912 - 23/08/2015 21:24:08    1774875

pdempsey
County: Mayo
Posts: 1047

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This is getting quite amusing. Ref made some mistakes for both sides but was fair in general. He has a thankless job. Better team won


Hope that doesn't come back to bite you where it hurts.
You have Mc Quillan next week. He seems to like Dubs.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 23/08/2015 21:34:51    1774881

what about tyrone questioning every decision made by the officials, lik the soccer teams in england do or real madrid do, run to th ref every time to put pressure on him,
can't deny that it was a tactic of theirs

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 23/08/2015 21:39:56    1774887

I thought Tyrone found it hard to get frees off Deegan today. Cavanagh had an incredible catch in the first half, immediately pulled down, and Deegan waves play on!

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 23/08/2015 21:58:32    1774901

As the old saying goes "It's all on the day". Against Monaghan, Tyrone got every decision going including feigning injuries, soft frees and the overall cynical play.
Yesterday some of the same went against Tyrone but of course it's the Referee fault, it's RTE'S fault, its Kerry's fault because they area more cynical team than us.
The boy who cried Wolf also springs to mind.

martinprince (Tyrone) - Posts: 187 - 24/08/2015 09:16:24    1774927

Thought Deegan let it flow pretty well yesterday given the conditions. Make a couple of errors in not black carding Enright and should have been a straight red card for the late hit on Cooper. Also replays on telly lastnight clearly showed both penalty decisions were dicey enough but he made the right calls for both.
At the end of the day the missed frees cost Tyrone dearly - Morgan really did himself no favours with his big dance routine after he nailed the first free...think his kicking cost Tyrone for the rest of the game.

blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 24/08/2015 09:21:36    1774931

No sour grapes in Tyrone lads. Think the best team on the day won & we were guilty of not taking our chances.
I was at the match & haven't seen either of the penalty incidents replayed - but thought at the time the second incident was more a penalty than first.
Don't think anyone can argue about O'Se black card - it was blatant. The Tyrone black card was either a yellow or a red.

tyronesaints (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 24/08/2015 09:30:08    1774938

Looks like Deegan got the second peno call spot on.
McNamee's black was very harsh. There was a passage of play before that where Moran was blocked and the ref saw it. That was a blatant black card. Unless it was McNamee (which I doubt) there he was very hard done by. Looking back at Enright's it was a yellow. He fouled him but didn't pull him to ground as per the rule. Little consilation to Tyrone though. Moran should have been black carded for what looked like a trip also.
There has to be a better option that the black card.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 24/08/2015 09:30:27    1774939

tasman

Maurice Deegan was unfairly highlighted by Joe Brolly. Joe is consistent - consistent in his bias in favour of Ulster teams. He did not acknowledge that Kerry were the better team.

Tyrone got a very suspect penalty. The centre-back ran out of ground and then fell to the ground. The second co-called penalty incident was correctly adjudged.

Shane Enright should have got a black card. The Tyrone no 5 should have got a straight red card for the late tackle on Colm Cooper. Joe McMahon should have been carded for the lifting of Cooper off the ground when clearly injured.

Brolly was over doing the missed goal chances by Tyrone. Part of the game is the ability to take goal chances. Tyrone did not exhibit enough skills to avail of the chances presented. If those chances were presented in the heydays of Tyrone football the likes of Peter Canavan or Stephen O'Neill would have made the correct decisions and the outcome would be different as it was back then.

Would agree with most of that except the penalty was a stone wall penalty and I thought Mark O sheas balck card was a text book one. I thought Ronan Mcnamees black should have been yellow.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1140 - 24/08/2015 09:34:10    1774942

100 per cent no penalty as shown clearly last night. Brilliant call by the ref, if only that would shut Brolly up for a while.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7912 - 24/08/2015 09:37:56    1774947

tirawleybaron
County: Mayo
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tasman

Maurice Deegan was unfairly highlighted by Joe Brolly. Joe is consistent - consistent in his bias in favour of Ulster teams. He did not acknowledge that Kerry were the better team.

Tyrone got a very suspect penalty. The centre-back ran out of ground and then fell to the ground. The second co-called penalty incident was correctly adjudged.

Shane Enright should have got a black card. The Tyrone no 5 should have got a straight red card for the late tackle on Colm Cooper. Joe McMahon should have been carded for the lifting of Cooper off the ground when clearly injured.

Brolly was over doing the missed goal chances by Tyrone. Part of the game is the ability to take goal chances. Tyrone did not exhibit enough skills to avail of the chances presented. If those chances were presented in the heydays of Tyrone football the likes of Peter Canavan or Stephen O'Neill would have made the correct decisions and the outcome would be different as it was back then.

Would agree with most of that except the penalty was a stone wall penalty and I thought Mark O sheas balck card was a text book one. I thought Ronan Mcnamees black should have been yellow.

This is something in general that need to be stamped out. Every team is guilty of it and it's highly dangerous

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 24/08/2015 09:51:51    1774962

In simple terms Tyrone beat themselves, 3 goal chances, missed 45's/Long range frees, kick outs lost. Deegan I thought had a decent game bar Enright's yellow but he didn't have a major impact on the game. One thing for sure was it was a game of two half's ;)

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 24/08/2015 09:58:30    1774969

tasman
County: Roscommon
Posts: 20

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Maurice Deegan was unfairly highlighted by Joe Brolly. Joe is consistent - consistent in his bias in favour of Ulster teams. He did not acknowledge that Kerry were the better team.

Tyrone got a very suspect penalty. The centre-back ran out of ground and then fell to the ground. The second co-called penalty incident was correctly adjudged.

Shane Enright should have got a black card. The Tyrone no 5 should have gpt a straight red card for the late tackle on Colm Cooper. Joe McMahon should have been carded for the lifting of Cooper off the ground when clearly injured.

Brolly was over doing the missed goal chances by Tyrone. Part of the game is the ability to take goal chances. Tyrone did not exhibit enough skills to avail of the chances presented. If those chances were presented in the heydays of Tyrone football the likes of Peter Canavan or Stephen O'Neill would have made the correct decisions and the outcome would be different as it was back then.

Joe McMahon wasn't even on the pitch yesterday and the "centre-back" as you call him was not involved in any of the penalty incidents, unless you've wandered into this thread by mistake and are referencing a different match?

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 24/08/2015 10:02:13    1774972

sean cavanagh kick on crowley?
tyrone twice on cooper?
tyrone dive to try to get second penalty? dive unless you are watching it through rose tinted glasses

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 24/08/2015 10:09:14    1774981

Irrespective of the inconsistency of the ref and the total farce around the card situation, tyrone had the chances yesterday to win and failed to take them.
They had 4 goal opportunities and took zero, they kicked at least 4 frees wide in the second half and basically it came down to not been clinical enough. They just didn't have the brilliant forwards from yesteryear to capitalise on a very open kerry defence whereas canavan, dooher, mcguigans, o' neill etc. etc. would have made hay yesterday. A team going in the right direction but might have missed a massive opportunity to make it to a final. Kerry whilst being efficient and clever are not unbeatable and their defence cannot deal with forwards who play direct and fast football so they have their problems to work on but nothing better than getting ready for the final to do it.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 24/08/2015 10:20:52    1774991

Kerryluck
Also isn't it against the rules for a goalie to take a kick out when the ball is not on the tee ? Niall Morgan took many kickouts yesterday from straight off the ground, I mean if people want get bogged down in the rules of the game . It'l be interesting to see if the same posters will have the same outrage next week when Dublin and mayo play and I'm sure there will a lot of incidents in that game as there is in evey game but sure when Kerry win it has to be the reffs fault or Kerry cheating you'd wonder do people on this forum actually like football at all or is it the old Irish mentality of you hate to see someone else doing well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/08/2015 10:33:46    1774997