https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl0c3rYILu8

at 1:14:40 here.

I don't think what Murphy did can be dismissed as pushing just because he held on to the jersey.
Silly reaction by Keane but red card seems harsh.

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 18/08/2015 13:26:54    1772022

Jimbo the same rules that got Connolly clear for the '11 final for tapping the Donegal player in the face? Come on he barely touched him to miss out on a massive cession like this for that is a joke. We're known as the Fighting Irish all over the world what a joke.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/08/2015 13:39:17    1772041

I watched it, if what Murphy did is striking then we are really goosed!

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 18/08/2015 13:40:33    1772043

Red card seems harsh for punching a player in the face in front of the umpire?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 18/08/2015 13:51:01    1772053

Keane only has himself to blame for his predicament: he'd only been on for two minutes when he whacked Murphy in the face in front of the umpires. It's as black and white a case as there is, and there is little chance of it being overturned on appeal. It looks bad that we would appeal when the rule book has been so blatantly breached, tbh.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 18/08/2015 14:12:54    1772060

BlastCalyle, have to agree. This driving a kind of side-fist into a guys chest, and then just gripping the jersey afterwards is something that is creeping into the game. It is an inflammatory action, designed to get a response. Surely there is a striking action there too? Grabbing a jersey afterwards doesn't change that.

Personally, I think the game would be in a far better place if we used common sense in these situations.

I was against the appeal, but as clondalkin pointed out, there is a precedent, so an appeal is fair game.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/08/2015 14:20:53    1772067

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 6567

1772041 Jimbo the same rules that got Connolly clear for the '11 final for tapping the Donegal player in the face? Come on he barely touched him to miss out on a massive cession like this for that is a joke. We're known as the Fighting Irish all over the world what a joke.


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He punched him in the face

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 18/08/2015 14:33:47    1772075

There is a precedent?

Remind me again of the time a player got a red card for unequivocably punching someone in the face rescinded?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 18/08/2015 14:53:13    1772091

Suppose I need to qualify that slighty.

*when Frank Murphy wasn't involved.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 18/08/2015 14:56:30    1772093

He gave him a little puck in the face with zero power behind it Jimbo, for me if he was cleared I'd have no problem whatsoever.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/08/2015 14:56:50    1772094

link

Here you go breffni. Two punches into the face, and two more in the shoulders. Overturned on appeal.

Interestingly, the last two were very similar to what murphy did, only without the jersey grab afterwards.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/08/2015 15:16:44    1772104

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 6568

1772094 He gave him a little puck in the face with zero power behind it Jimbo, for me if he was cleared I'd have no problem whatsoever.

If Keane is cleared and McCann banned then we may abandon the rule-book altogether. It would be the biggesst farce in the history of anything.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 18/08/2015 15:19:06    1772107

TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 13585

1772104 link

Here you go breffni. Two punches into the face, and two more in the shoulders. Overturned on appeal.

I said unequivocal.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 18/08/2015 15:54:04    1772116

Breffni39
If Keane is cleared and McCann banned then we may abandon the rule-book altogether. It would be the biggesst farce in the history of anything

Why? McCann set out to get a rise out of an opponent, he went out of his way to goad his opponent, then dived on the ground when someone touched his hair. Keane was set upon by someone, again looking to engineer a reaction, and he lightly touched his face with a half-closed hand in response as he was walking away. I would see it as common sense prevailing to be honest with you. In fact in any other walk of life, I'd argue that people would say justice was done.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/08/2015 16:00:21    1772121

On what grounds is this appeal ? Why do Mayo think it would be overturned ? Talk about an undeserved sense of entitlement ...
I agree that if GAA even considers overturning for more than 2 seconds it will be a joke ..

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 18/08/2015 16:03:20    1772123

Keane was set upon??? Get off the stage good lad. Look it was a half arsed punch to the face, but a clear punch nonetheless. Murphy goaded him but it wasn't the same thing, get a grip lads. The rules are the rules, and I love a good scrap in a heated game and was in many a scrap on a pitch, but the rules are the rules unfortunately!

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 18/08/2015 16:11:48    1772129

TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 13586

Why? McCann set out to get a rise out of an opponent, he went out of his way to goad his opponent, then dived on the ground when someone touched his hair. Keane was set upon by someone, again looking to engineer a reaction, and he lightly touched his face with a half-closed hand in response as he was walking away. I would see it as common sense prevailing to be honest with you. In fact in any other walk of life, I'd argue that people would say justice was done

This is just gold. Gets better with every read.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 18/08/2015 16:12:25    1772131

Anyway the point is: rules

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 18/08/2015 16:12:55    1772132

Breffni39
I said unequivocal.

Does his closed fist not strike the donegal lad in the face?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/08/2015 17:05:01    1772158

Keane will get off.The GAA are usually lenient this time of year.Suspension would have occurred if 1st round in league

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 18/08/2015 17:35:32    1772169