Soma : I thought your level of miserable posts couldn't be beaten but you've surpassed it yourself .

I've never witnessed such ridiculous statements .

It's a chore ??

Do you know how many of the Donegal players have to travel for training ??

Anthony Thompson came from London every weekend after 12-14 hour days in work .

Paddy McGrath drove 4 hours from Dublin three times a week for the love of the sport : and you came it's a chore ?
These are only two of a list of examples . You really do not have a clue ) .


Master - agree with your post .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 17/08/2015 11:33:04    1771294

What I cannot understand from a football mans perspective is the passing in hurling. 80% of the passes are the corner back getting it and driving it 100 yards up the field without even looking. Sure if this happened in football, yes it would be exciting seeing every player scrap for a high ball and boot it down again, but surely it would make more sense of a hurling county came up with a safety first approach and played safe balls and worked the sliotar up the field a bit

PoppinPoints (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 17/08/2015 11:38:57    1771296

TRS with the way you follow me around so closely on HS, taking the time to comment on nearly every post I make, I reckon you could do a decent man-marking job still in the Donegal full back line! Anyway the point I was making, which you seem to have missed, is that managers in hurling see the team who have played the most games as being at an advantage, while in football some managers whose team play more games talk only about tiredness. Iv never really seen anyone on here claim Kilkennys success is due to an easier provincial campaign, but it's a very common excuse given for Kerrys dominance in football. Do you not agree with this point?

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 17/08/2015 11:58:00    1771309

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1771296
What I cannot understand from a football mans perspective is the passing in hurling. 80% of the passes are the corner back getting it and driving it 100 yards up the field without even looking. Sure if this happened in football, yes it would be exciting seeing every player scrap for a high ball and boot it down again, but surely it would make more sense of a hurling county came up with a safety first approach and played safe balls and worked the sliotar up the field a bit

Have to agree its a bit like under 8's and 10's football in the way 90% of passes are hit and hopes. That cant be done in football. Would also agree in way the media approach RE. Hanbury drag down he done right thing i would have done the same but if it happened in football it would major talking point today especially because he would have most certainly scored a goal had he not been pulled down and Tipp would more than likely won the game then. Also the way the game is Refereed is much better in Hurling the standard of referees in football is disgracefull. The Ref played massive part in letting game continue yesterday. Had it been a football match there would have been at least 6 red cards id say with the way football is refereed now a days. Look at the classes in first 5 mins yesterday no way would a player get away with that type hitting in football.

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 17/08/2015 12:13:23    1771325

in hurling. 80% of the passes are the corner back getting it and driving it 100 yards up the field without even looking.

My man you must have been watching a few games from the 80's!

This is not how modern hurling works.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2015 12:15:48    1771326

Have to agree its a bit like under 8's and 10's football in the way 90% of passes are hit and hopes.

Total & utter bullshit.

Watch Austin Gleeson's point v Kilkenny 8 days ago. Waterford put together a passage of play where they won the ball back, took 3 passes to get to Gleeson and he put it over after a 40M run.

Skills in abundance, nothing hit & hope. The only thing hit & hope is the posts like this trying to discredit a fantastic game.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2015 12:17:43    1771327

Ah now, 90% is an exaggeration alright Slayer but there still is an awful lot of hit and hope passing in hurling. This is undeniable.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 17/08/2015 12:23:37    1771332

there still is an awful lot of hit and hope passing in hurling

How can you quantify that? If a corner back drives a ball up to a corner forward in front of him, how is that hit and hope?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2015 12:30:24    1771344

slayer
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1771344 there still is an awful lot of hit and hope passing in hurling

How can you quantify that? If a corner back drives a ball up to a corner forward in front of him, how is that hit and hope?

It's hit and hope if it's not passed directly to his chest or out in front of him. If it's just driven up to the general area i'ts as much a pass to a team-mate/the opposition as to him, hoping for a good outcome.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 17/08/2015 12:34:27    1771346

17/08/2015 12:34:27
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1771346 slayer
County: Limerick
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1771344 there still is an awful lot of hit and hope passing in hurling

How can you quantify that? If a corner back drives a ball up to a corner forward in front of him, how is that hit and hope?

It's hit and hope if it's not passed directly to his chest or out in front of him. If it's just driven up to the general area i'ts as much a pass to a team-mate/the opposition as to him, hoping for a good outcome.


WUM

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 17/08/2015 12:46:55    1771349

The joy and abandon that is part of hurling adds to its majesty. Why should every ball be a pass ? Top hurlers are artists not robots conditioned to regurgitate the same monotonous whiteboard move ad infinitum. There's as much pleasure to be taken from a fist pumping, buck-leapin', high octane clearance as there is from a pinpoint accurate pass or score. I find it impossible to believe that even the most devout disciples of other sports that numbly follow a rigid and regimented structure remained unmoved to the game of hurling played as it was yesterday

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 17/08/2015 12:50:37    1771357

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1771357
The joy and abandon that is part of hurling adds to its majesty. Why should every ball be a pass ? Top hurlers are artists not robots conditioned to regurgitate the same monotonous whiteboard move ad infinitum. There's as much pleasure to be taken from a fist pumping, buck-leapin', high octane clearance as there is from a pinpoint accurate pass or score. I find it impossible to believe that even the most devout disciples of other sports that numbly follow a rigid and regimented structure remained unmoved to the game of hurling played as it was yesterday

Because passing the ball to a team mate is the way to win and the way all sports are played.

Most teams don't regurgitate the same move over and over again.

Most sports don't 100% follow a rigid and regimented structure either and depend on individual talent to win things.

Didn't Waterford win the league and get to the AI semi final by playing in a structured manner this year.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/08/2015 13:21:23    1771380

The joy and abandon that is part of hurling adds to its majesty. Why should every ball be a pass ? Top hurlers are artists not robots conditioned to regurgitate the same monotonous whiteboard move ad infinitum. There's as much pleasure to be taken from a fist pumping, buck-leapin', high octane clearance as there is from a pinpoint accurate pass or score. I find it impossible to believe that even the most devout disciples of other sports that numbly follow a rigid and regimented structure remained unmoved to the game of hurling played as it was yesterday

Well done - there is nothing that can be added to that post to make it better. Bravo!

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2015 13:30:39    1771383

Great post, Maroonatic, agree 100%.
It's exactly the over-thought-out and overcareful percentage game that ruins many games/sports. Theres no better ball than a long early ball in the general direction of a.full forward on top of his game, and capable of winning it.

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 17/08/2015 13:41:36    1771393

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1771393 Great post, Maroonatic, agree 100%.
It's exactly the over-thought-out and overcareful percentage game that ruins many games/sports. Theres no better ball than a long early ball in the general direction of a.full forward on top of his game, and capable of winning it.

I enjoy watching it too, but's it's still hit and hope.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 17/08/2015 13:45:33    1771395

Spot on Maroonatic
Cannings 70 yard delivery in the last seconds was hardly hit n hope . Nor the brilliant pass to him just before .
Hurling cannot be compared to football especially not off the back of a game like that yesterday. Skill levels were off the charts in that game yesterday.
This is what defines the attitudes of hurlers - the speed of the game and skill sets required .

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 17/08/2015 14:04:12    1771412

Maroon,excellent post.Once again,i left Croke Park with a spring in my step yesterday,feeling that were it not for this great game,mine & many others lives,would be all the poorer for it.Your right about the sheer electricity,a brave & crowd inspiring clearance can generate.In the white heat of battle,when bodies are strewn across the field through exhaustion,its every man for himself.Drills & regimented training routines go out the window and are replaced by raw instinct and survival at all costs.The amount of great catches,interceptions and rabble rousing clearances yesterday,had the crowd salivating for more.I had a priest sitting beside me fist pumping and hollering like a madman.All sense of calmness and decorum had left even the most sane of us.It was hit,or be hit.On the field,and off it.For those last ten minutes,i would rather have been nowhere else on earth.Hurling-the gift that keeps on giving.Wow!

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 17/08/2015 14:08:58    1771417

Finsceal
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1771412 Spot on Maroonatic
Cannings 70 yard delivery in the last seconds was hardly hit n hope . Nor the brilliant pass to him just before .

Nobody said it was.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 17/08/2015 14:09:19    1771419

People saying pulling down Callinan for the penalty was cynical - he'd already scored 3-4 from play FFS!!! Most would say the Galway defence & management were too naive in leaving him one-on-one for the entire game. He was simply unmarkable yesterday!

The usual stuff from the anti-hurling brigade on here. "Too much hit & hope" etc. Hurling was & hopefully always will be a truly expressive game. They are trying to take the expressiveness out of football with blanket defences, sweepers & possession football. If you could kick a ball as far as you can hit a sliothar it would do away with a lot of those negative tactics. IOMÁNAÍOCHT ABÚ!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 17/08/2015 14:14:52    1771427

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1771427 People saying pulling down Callinan for the penalty was cynical - he'd already scored 3-4 from play FFS!!! Most would say the Galway defence & management were too naive in leaving him one-on-one for the entire game. He was simply unmarkable yesterday!

What was it in that case?

The usual stuff from the anti-hurling brigade on here. "Too much hit & hope" etc. Hurling was & hopefully always will be a truly expressive game. They are trying to take the expressiveness out of football with blanket defences, sweepers & possession football. If you could kick a ball as far as you can hit a sliothar it would do away with a lot of those negative tactics. IOMÁNAÍOCHT ABÚ!

The thread is anti-football, it's just a flip-side of the debate. Calm down.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 17/08/2015 14:22:16    1771432