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Hill, it was a penalty nothing more or less.
Did you see anyone trying to get a player sent off?
The TSG point seems valid infairness I never realised that difference until now.
I'm a football man I'm just concerned the direction it's going.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 19:55:28    1771073

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Hurling V Football

Please, leave them be, they're 1st cousins and no more!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 16/08/2015 20:04:56    1771076

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The hurling analysts on the Sunday Game protect their sport and continually praise it unlike their RTE colleagues( football ) who run it down . Fair play to the hurling boys is what I say .

That tackle on Callanan was shocking and what is said about it only nothing .

Shows us the power of the media .

That side : they are two completely different sports so why are you comparing and bringing Tyrone into this is disgusting.

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 16/08/2015 20:21:09    1771084

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In football if a player pulled down a player like the Galway full back did -- Would they not walk. get a black card like. ?
Also the difference in hurling / football is ,, hurling is miles faster game and a ball can be hit further Also a hurling ball don't seem to curl like in football
But don't say it's all a clean game :: no more than football players will do what they have to to win

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 16/08/2015 20:34:42    1771095

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When both codes are played openly and everybody giving it their all both are fantastic to watch but hurling is a much faster and more exciting game to watch, I remember watching an adult football club match years ago, 1 of the teams had dual players both hurling and football, that team looked like giants against the kiddies on the opposing team. It was a whitewash, the dual players just pushed the opposition out of the way the football only lads just bounced off the dual players

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 16/08/2015 21:11:38    1771127

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It looked to me like there were more solid, hard-hitting shoulders in the hurling game today than in the entire football championship. The attitude still exists in hurling that you take a hit and you give a hit and long may that continue.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/08/2015 21:13:02    1771128

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I love both codes, why start a petty thread? Hurling is a better game to watch but that is natural due to the speed and ability to score from long range. I watch as many games as I can from both codes, and that's the way it should be!

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 16/08/2015 21:19:49    1771131

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Another notable thing today was that both managers spoke about Galway probably having an advantage as they had played 5 championship games already compared to Dublins 2. In football the talk is always about teams being tired because they have played 4-5 championship games, and the team who play 2-3 games being much fresher. At times it looks like hurlers love their sport where for footballers the game seems like a chore.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/08/2015 21:41:31    1771145

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Interesting anecdote I noticed in last week's hurling semi final; last ten minutes of the match, Ger Aylward fouled his man in the corner. Waterford back was obviously anxious to take the free quickly. Aylward, wait for it, HANDS HIM THE BALL!! If it were Monaghan-Tyrone threw week before, the Tyrone lad would probably have lay on the call until forcibly removed, followed by the inevitable row. I've said it before on these pages that players not giving back the ball after being blown for a foul is one of the biggest causes of unnecessary aggravation in our game.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 16/08/2015 21:57:33    1771152

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Very easy to start a thread like this and slag of football right after a classic hurling game like that.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 17/08/2015 09:13:48    1771172

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It's a bit unfair to slag off football.

In hurling you have one hand on the stick so both hands cannot be dedicated to fouling. In football a potential fouler can use both paws to haul a fella back/down, tug a shirt, perform the black arts. Over the weekend I was thinking about something Mick O'Dwyer said 25 years ago - there is no clearly defined tackle in Gaelic Football. Maybe if you were allowed to pull a player down by touching between the shoulder and the knee it might add to the sport rather than take from it.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2015 09:23:13    1771178

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slayer
County: Limerick
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1771178
It's a bit unfair to slag off football.

In hurling you have one hand on the stick so both hands cannot be dedicated to fouling. In football a potential fouler can use both paws to haul a fella back/down, tug a shirt, perform the black arts. Over the weekend I was thinking about something Mick O'Dwyer said 25 years ago - there is no clearly defined tackle in Gaelic Football. Maybe if you were allowed to pull a player down by touching between the shoulder and the knee it might add to the sport rather than take from it.


There is a clearly defined tackle in football it's even in the rule book it's just some people in the game don't want to be bothered teaching their players to tackle properly.

From the rule book:

"1.6 Player(s) may tackle an opponent for the ball.
1.7 Provided he has at least one foot on the
ground, a player may make a side-to-side
charge on an opponent:-
(a) who is in possession of the ball, or
(b) who is playing the ball, or
(c) when both players are moving in the
direction of the ball to play it. "

Side to side and get an open hand in on the ball is the way to tackle it;s just a really great skill that a lot of coaches don'tr seem to want to bother teaching properly and referees don't referee it well at times also.

A wrap style aussie rules style tackle would kill the game as it would make being a defender really easy and being a forward incredibly difficult and would basically kill off any small skilful forwards in the game.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/08/2015 09:51:16    1771198

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"Compared to the antics in the Mon/Tyr game last week we really need to look at what's going on in football.
No diving."

Understand the point but you cant compare it with only 2 games. This debate is like comparing hockey to golf etc.

I like both and will watch both and if you only like one then just watch one.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 17/08/2015 10:05:10    1771210

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Last mention I heard of a club match in Kerry, a 'supporter' tried to take Paul Calvin's head off with a hurl. Like bringing a toothpick to a gunfight I would have thought... but... if you gotta go, you gotta go!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 17/08/2015 10:11:53    1771220

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Lots of lads get easily offended.
My point which maybe I can't clearly express is the attitude difference between the two codes.
I am a football man, I love the game but I hate the level of diving/cheating etc that has come into our game which you don't see to the same extent in hurling.
Note to easily offended not Tyrone but all counties including my own.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 17/08/2015 10:52:38    1771259

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Sorry, but this isn't a comparison of football and hurling. It is a comparison between a good hurling match and a bad football match. The Kerry - Mayo games last year were every bit as good if not better.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 17/08/2015 11:07:53    1771270

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This is an unbelievably juvenile thread.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 17/08/2015 11:10:11    1771272

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TheMaster
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1771270 Sorry, but this isn't a comparison of football and hurling. It is a comparison between a good hurling match and a bad football match. The Kerry - Mayo games last year were every bit as good if not better.

100%

Two epic encounters

Best games I've seen for a long time

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 17/08/2015 11:17:58    1771278

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Not sure if you can compare games but I remember Benny Tierney writing in the Irish News discussing the merits of both codes.

One thing he remarked was that too often now a footballer will look to play a ball sideways or back whereas hurlers instinctively drive it forward.

Tim_Burr (Down) - Posts: 460 - 17/08/2015 11:20:26    1771282

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Very few matches are as open and sporting as yesterdays, especially this year. It was a bit of a once-off, you cant really use it as a reference for hurling un general

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 17/08/2015 11:20:33    1771283

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