How is Lacey not on everyones team ?

He won player of the year as an attacking defender. He had four all-stars and had two before the era of Donegal dropping players behind the ball.

His first two were from corner back.

Also Michael Donnellan didnt play long enough .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 14/08/2015 16:51:23    1770343

S Cluxton
M O Se
S Moynihan
K Higgins
K Lacey
K McGeeney
T O Se
D O Se
S Cavanagh
B Dooher
D Connolly
P Flynn
P Canavan
P Joyce
C Cooper

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/08/2015 17:05:16    1770358

On further reflection i would drop Dooher and put P Joyce wing forward instead & M Murphy in full forward.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/08/2015 17:32:41    1770368

+1 Oisin McConville

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 14/08/2015 17:41:06    1770370

Im stunned

couple of things .. While cork only collected one all ireland during the noughties im surprised to see so little of them on peoples selections

but here is the biggest query

ANTHONY LYNCH !!!
how is he not everyones automatic selection for corner back. Not only the best of his generation but possible the best corner back cork ever produced. Kept gooch socreless on three separate occasions. Two time all star and 7 time nominee. Played on poor cork team from 2000 to 2005 but still shone in every game he played. Best man marker of his generation and did it as clean as could be. A tough fair hard competitor who was respected by everyone he ever marked. eVEN CONTACTED DONAGHY when he got sent off despite not actually connecting with him.

We wont have many on this selection cause for the most part our best in all positions would have better from other counties. Examples
Nicolas Murphy v darra o shea
Goulding v cooper
etc etc

but lynch defo an automatic choice there wasnt better than him in the era were discussing

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 14/08/2015 17:41:42    1770371

Damn i was out working all day so wasnt thinking clearly.Ive had sufficient time to finalise my team
1 S Cluxton
2 M O Se
3 S Moynihan
4 K Higgins
5 K Lacey
6 K McGeeney
7 T O Se
8 D O Se
9 S Cavanagh
10 P Flynn
11 D O Sullivan
12 D Connolly
13 C Cooper
14 M Murphy
15 P Canavan

Kerry -6
Dublin -3
Tyrone -2
Donegal -2
Armagh -1
Mayo -1

Honourable mentions to P Joyce,M Donnellan,Ricey McMenamin,O McConville,B Dooher,S O Neill,B Brogan,B Coulter,J Galvin,D Browne,M Forde.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/08/2015 19:52:56    1770407

ritchie

couple of things .. While cork only collected one all ireland during the noughties im surprised to see so little of them on peoples selections

they scraped over the line against an overachieving Down side and flopped on the big stage several other times so how many are you looking for?? Positionally most Cork players can't live with other players of that era. But I'll agree Lynch would definitely fit the bill, as would Canty but I think that's were it stops for Cork during that period.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 14/08/2015 20:38:53    1770423

1.Cluxton
2.Mike McCarthy
3.Darren Fay
4.Cormac McAnallen
5.Tomas O'Shea
6.McGeeney
7. Moynihan
8. Darragh O Shea
9. Cavanagh
10. Galvin
11. Donnelon
12 Giles
14 Canavan
14. Murphy
15. Cooper

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 14/08/2015 21:37:28    1770461

LOL did someone actually mention Andy Moran in this forum.......I must have seen things.
The lad that said M Donnellen didnt play long enough..........Its best 15...you must be a kid.
Alot of love for Fay......but those that have MUST include P Joyce then...no brainer.

carrigrua (Galway) - Posts: 363 - 14/08/2015 21:58:58    1770473

Difficult exercise as some posters are more focused on the last 7 or 8 years and performances in that period in fairness jump out quicker. In terms of pure natural ability Ciaran McDonald, Peter Canavan and Michael Donnellan would have to be on any team although their best years were as much before the last 15 years as the were since. Very few players these days with the exception of Cooper electrify the crowd to the same degree. Agree totally on the post of Anthony Lynch. Brillant corner back who also often moved out to No. 6. Cluxton and Cooper are probably the only two where you would get a uniformity of agreement as they have being there for most of the 15 year period.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 15/08/2015 08:39:25    1770481

Stephen Cluxton
Marc O'Se
Graham Canty
Karl Lacey
Tomas O'Se
Kieran McGeeney
Philip Jordan
Dara O'Se
Sean Cavanagh
Brian Dooher
Declan O'Sullivan/Kieran McDonald
Paul Flynn
Colm Cooper
Peter Canavan
Bernard Brogan

Barry Owens just misses out because he didn't play for long enough and I had to include Canty somehwere (although Owens is probably the best out and out full back of the century).Donnellan faded away too quickly in the early 00's, Joyce faded away after the 2001 all ireland win for a few years (although he had a bit of a revival at the end of his career) so he loses out because of that.Declan Meehan was in contention as well but again like a lot of that Galway team they faded away after the 2001 all ireland.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 15/08/2015 08:41:30    1770483

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County: Donegal
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How is Lacey not on everyones team ?

He won player of the year as an attacking defender. He had four all-stars and had two before the era of Donegal dropping players behind the ball.

His first two were from corner back.

Agree with that.To go from the best man marking corner back to an attacking centre back shows he was a complete footballer and he completed a transition that not many players could do so effectively.In my opinion Lacey and Tomas O'Se are the 2 greatest defenders of the last 20 years or so with both of them being all time greats.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 15/08/2015 08:53:55    1770485

Cluxton
Marc OSe
Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan
Tomas oSe
Glenn Ryan
Graham Geraghty
Dara OSe
Sean Kavanagh
Michael Donnellan
Declan OSullivan
Diarmuid Connolly
Colm Cooper
Padraic joyce
Peter Canavan

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 15/08/2015 09:02:00    1770487

Cluxton
M O'Se
D Fay
Lacey
T O'Se
Moynihan
McGeeney
D O'Se
S Cavanagh
Galvin
C McDonald
S McDonnell
Gooch
P Joyce
Canavan

Could pick another team just as good without using those 15 players.

meathforsam09 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 15/08/2015 09:39:02    1770496

Nobody picking Francie at no 3??? ;-)

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 15/08/2015 09:45:16    1770499

Barry Owens just misses out because he didn't play for long enough Barry owens played from 2001-14. I would have thought 13 years is plenty for an intercounty career.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 15/08/2015 10:31:11    1770517

1. Stephen Cluxton
2. Marc Ó'Sé
3. Michael Shields
4. Keith Higgins
5. Tomás Ó'Sé
6. Kieran McGeeney
7. Karl Lacey
8. Dara Ó'Sé
9. Anthony Tohill
10. Ciarán McDonald
11. Martin Clarke
12. Peter Canavan
13. Colm Cooper
14. Padraic Joyce
15. Bernard Brogan

That's right, I picked Marty Clarke. *Awaiting backlash*

peter_venkman (Down) - Posts: 320 - 15/08/2015 10:42:29    1770530

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County: Down
Posts: 305

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1. Stephen Cluxton
2. Marc Ó'Sé
3. Michael Shields
4. Keith Higgins
5. Tomás Ó'Sé
6. Kieran McGeeney
7. Karl Lacey
8. Dara Ó'Sé
9. Anthony Tohill
10. Ciarán McDonald
11. Martin Clarke
12. Peter Canavan
13. Colm Cooper
14. Padraic Joyce
15. Bernard Brogan

That's right, I picked Marty Clarke. *Awaiting backlash*

I'd question Shields at full back more.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 15/08/2015 10:53:44    1770537

1. Murphy
2. M O Se
3. Moynihan
4. Lynch
5. T O Se
6. McGeeney
7. Lacey
8. D O Se
9. N Murphy
10. P Galvin
11. C McDonald
12. D Connolly
13. C Cooper
14. P Joyce
15. B Brogan
Hard to leave out the likes of Peter Canavan , Brian Dooher , M Murphy , Cluxton but I think there would be no stopping that team!

candlewax (Galway) - Posts: 285 - 15/08/2015 10:54:24    1770538

Clips of Donellon, phenomenal player at his peak:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CV8nFKPCmng

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw2a7Ej_NU

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 15/08/2015 11:22:08    1770548