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Kerry vs Tyrone Aug 23rd

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Enjoyable game - Kerry overall merited a win - got some key scores when it mattered - changed it up when needed - pushed up on short kick outs and made some good substitutions.
Certainly Tyrone can feel aggrieved at some of the decisions but in reality to win whilst playing the counter attacking game 1) they need to take goal chances 2 ) need to be accurate from kick outs 3)need someone who can kick a deadball from 45 metres - they scored 1/5 from that distance today and missed one from the 21- Kerry missed 1 free - calling on a keeper who is having a nightmare with kick outs to convert clutch 45's under pressure isn't the answer

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 23/08/2015 17:54:27    1774704

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Deegan had a stinker but it was morgans bad kickouts that cost tyrone he missed a few handy enough frees but tyrone are definitely on their way back

cavanchamps (Cavan) - Posts: 38 - 23/08/2015 17:55:39    1774705

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Well done to Kerry , with the game in the melting pot they went about their business and won it.
Very poor kick outs by the Tyrone keeper in the second half, I really thought he put his team under a lot of pressure and they seemed to loose their shape after half time for a bit
They came back well and should have converted some of their frees.
Poor free taking must have cost them at least three points
What was P MC nutty booked for --- was it for a dive?? If it was it was not clear cut, lots of people thought it was a foul. If that was the case then a penalty IMO.
Thought No five was lucky just to get a yellow, could have been a red IMO Bad hit on Cooper.
Kerry keeper done very well but still Tyrone broke through on a good few occasions. Kerry's defence did look shaky at times.
Overall I enjoyed the game and the first half was very good. Tyrone done well considering all the focus on them and fair play to M Hart for the way he had his team prepared.
Lot of neutrals here in London cheering for Tyrone and I hope they get the respect they deserve.
Thanks again to both teams Gaelic football is still alive and well

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 23/08/2015 17:57:38    1774707

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Joxer-- very astute. EFM decision to completely change the tactics in the second half, and clear the bench, was the decisive factor. i would argue that Deegan was the 16 th man today. Similar offenses uniformly resulted in a Tyrone black card, and a Kerry yellow card. And the penalty towards the end....utter farce. Looks like the GAA/RTE coalition to avoid at all cost a very awkward Tyrone all ireland final (victory?) succeeded. Time for a TMO to avoid the bias.

It will be interesting to see this Tyrone team in 2 to 3 years time. Real potential, if, an donly if, they can find two players who can kick frees. Takes the pressure of Morgan.

liamoggordon (USA) - Posts: 13 - 23/08/2015 18:00:42    1774711

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Fair play to Kerry.. A champions performance, clever changes by Fitzmaurice after the goal too.. tyrone will feel they missed a great opportunity with soft wides and the goal chances.. predominantly young side, will challenge next year

Really have to admire Fitzmaurice, does wgatever is needed to win

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 23/08/2015 18:01:02    1774712

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I thought Tyrone played to their potential and its a pity it was not enough. The second penalty should have been given but any doubt in a referees head will never go in their favour due to past incidents and Tyrone players past and present need to take responsibility for that. Tyrone have had a great season but Kerry were the much better team and played tactically to ensure they came out safely. I honestly still do not think this is a vintage Tyrone team. They lack the five or six forwards needed to win an All Ireland, MH will bring them to latter stages but the players of yesteryear are just not there. They really should have had 3 goals today which the great teams would have taken. They are amongst the top 3 or 4 teams in Ulster and will compete for that title next year but I dont see an All Ireland in them anytime soon.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 23/08/2015 18:07:25    1774720

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Win at all costs- that is the Kerry way. Unfortunately a lot of GAA people buy into this also. It will be tough for Mayo or Dublin but Kerry defence leaks goals and either of these teams will exploit that fact. Also very very poor free taking today by Tyrone- juvenile stuff. Tiernan McCann had a stinker again also. Harte was not on the ball. Jim Gavin will be more focused.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 23/08/2015 18:07:57    1774722

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Quote by Joxer: 'The bias towards Tyrone from the SG analysts afterwards was sickening. Brolly and O'Rourke were like Harte cheerleaders. Kerry thoroughly dominated the second half and were good value for their win despite JOD and Gooch playing poorly IMO. Anyone who thinks Morgan is on the same planet as Cluxton regarding ability needs their head examined. He was Kerry's 16th man today. Tyrone close but still some distance away from the very top teams. They may challenge over the next couple of years though but still some stretch away from the Kerrys, Dublins and Mayos of this world.@

Joxer you are obviously on a different planet than most of us-the ref handed it to Kerry with two very poor decisions and the penalty that was not awarded changed the result- you need to watch the games without the tinted spec!!! At least 3 other Kerr players could have got black cards.

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Who are these 'most of us'? Are you talking about Tyrone people or neutrals? Kerry were the better team by a stretch in that second half. Look at the possesion stats. Their forwards were more clinical and Morgan was playing into their hands. I'm not convinced on that 'second penalty'. I didn't see much contact and Deegan was right beside it. The first wasn't clean cut either. Either way anyone who says that the ref won that game for Kerry is living in cuckoo land.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 23/08/2015 18:14:50    1774729

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How come Kerry players were able to stand 8 yards in front of the Tyrone player McCurry? and Morgan when they were kicking fairly long range frees. I thought they had to be at least 20 yards back. Micky Harte was going mad on the touchline about this tactic of Kerry. Poor reffing again from Deegan and poor sporstmanship from Kerry players.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 23/08/2015 18:16:49    1774732

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How come Kerry players were able to stand 8 yards in front of the Tyrone player McCurry? and Morgan when they were kicking fairly long range frees. I thought they had to be at least 20 yards back. Micky Harte was going mad on the touchline about this tactic of Kerry. Poor reffing again from Deegan and poor sporstmanship from Kerry players.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 23/08/2015 18:16:49    1774733

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@galwayford ah sure what do you expect at this stage,Tyrone had it all against them,fair play to them for the gallant effort though,disgracefull refereeing.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 23/08/2015 18:25:19    1774740

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Joxer -possession stats mean little and my post refers to most neutral who I have spoken to. You are obviously deluded or are you used too watching some other sport that is not Gaelic football!!. Two penalties should have been given which would have changed the result and a not lot of contact is required when it is a clear foul. I think Kerry were the cuckoo on this occasion. The Tyrone player who was through on goals with extra man inside him and dragged down - yellow card given when it should have been a red or black. Kerry were very unsporting and as usual got away with it and fooled you and the Ref in the process.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/08/2015 18:34:02    1774746

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Well done to Kerry but a big hard luck to Tyrone who did themselves proud today despite all the recent bad attention. As for Kerry, well they look very beatable!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 23/08/2015 18:34:32    1774747

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Congrats Kerry on your win today but once again Tyrone have been a victim of a Referring injustice as we travel back over the River Grande the Mexicans will have their Mariachi Bands out playing Bonaparte's Retreat , WE ARE TYRONE WE HAVEN'T GONE AWAY R emember T yrone E ndeavors to succeed

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 23/08/2015 18:34:56    1774748

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Poor performance from Deegan but Kerry were the better team.

Fair play to Tyrone, they gave everything & can walk away with their heads held high but Kerry's superior bench saw them through.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 23/08/2015 18:35:02    1774749

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For me, Tyrone really missed a trick. They should have brought Sean Cavanagh back to form a three man midfield and the kickouts should have been sent straight up the middle. I honestly thought Cavanagh's presence in the forward line would not have been missed today as Kerry were wide open when Tyrone broke forward. They lost the game with bad kickouts and getting boxed in their own half and allowing Kerry turnovers in scoreable positions. I'm not interested in the ref, he may have got the key decision wrong but he made bad calls for both sides imo. Tyrone's failure to make the right kickouts to the right players had a much bigger impact than one penalty decision.

Kerry will need to tighten up at the back because Dublin and Mayo don't miss too many goal chances. As for Tyrone, they're young, they'll be back and I believe unlike some that they have a good enough forward line as long as they work on goal scoring they'll be a real threat in the future. Overall a good contest today, hopefully more of the same next week.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 23/08/2015 18:39:03    1774752

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Very poor standard of refereeing. It went along way towards Kerry's victory.

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 553 - 23/08/2015 18:40:20    1774754

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Joxer -possession stats mean little and my post refers to most neutral who I have spoken to. You are obviously deluded or are you used too watching some other sport that is not Gaelic football!!. Two penalties should have been given which would have changed the result and a not lot of contact is required when it is a clear foul. I think Kerry were the cuckoo on this occasion. The Tyrone player who was through on goals with extra man inside him and dragged down - yellow card given when it should have been a red or black. Kerry were very unsporting and as usual got away with it and fooled you and the Ref in the process.

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Neither deluded nor watching some other sport, being going to Croker since the 70s. Kerry were the better team, look what other posters are saying. The second penalty shout, there appeared to be minimum contact. Carney actually called it as arm clamping but I disagree I just think he went to ground. Deegan was only a few feet away, better placed than you or I, so I guess that's what he saw too. That's all. I honestly don't know how anyone could say that this was a definite penalty and I have no favoutitism towards either team so no blinkers to take off. Both teams did unsporting things. He dished out two blacks and several yellows in fairness to him. The Gooch foul near the end could have been a red but wasn't. Swings and roundabouts.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 23/08/2015 18:47:28    1774759

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First of all, commiserations to all Tyrone fans. It was a great game despite the conditions. A really intriguing tactical battle. Had Tyrone made better choices with some of the goal chances it could have gone the other way. Having said that, I think Kerry were the better team today and always had the ability to keep their noses in front and most importantly to pull away at the end when it was really put up to them. Tyrone did something similar to Kerry in the 2008 final. It's always a sign of a strong team, the ability to kill off a game when needed. Tyrone have a formidable outfit now. They're not the finished article yet but, I'm sure they'll improve in the next few years and maybe return to the top table again. As for Kerry, they got a great test today and scored 18 points against a very mean defence. They are blessed with quality and choice in attack at the moment. However, the defence is where they are vulnerable and I think Dublin and Mayo will be better equipped to test it in the final. It should be another intriguing game either way. Onwards and upwards!

lessbull (Kerry) - Posts: 177 - 23/08/2015 18:51:11    1774761

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Personnally,i dont agree with a lot of this praise for Tyrones performance and that their future is bright.They played some decent football today at times.Especially i the first half,but they do not have the scoring power needed to get back to the top.Not by a long shot.S Cavanagh is the last remaining link to the glory years and when he departs,he will leave a big void.Beating Limerick,Meath,Tipperary,Sligo and Monaghan is about Tyrones level.Beating Kerry,Mayo,Dublin and Donegal(although their on the slide)is beyond them.The forwards have missed numerous goal chances in games v Sligo,Monaghan & Kerry.It is no fluke they keep taking the wrong option and spurning these chances.The forwards are just not clinical enough.I cannot see Tyrone reaching another final in the foreseeable future.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/08/2015 18:51:19    1774762

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