Played 7

Won 4

Drew 1

Lost 2

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 03/08/2015 19:09:26    1763297

embaressing by kildare....cant blame the dubs either....they should be much better than what they are....to be that far behind kerry and dublin shows that serious questions need to be asked

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 03/08/2015 19:10:30    1763299

Firstly to our Australian friend, you must not have been reading the Kildare forum on here since the first week in February because the ranting started back then and went right through the spring as relegation became more and more of a reality. So maybe a little bit of research is required before you start a thread!What happened to Kildare yesterday would have happened at 25 other counties and if I'm wrong why didn't they make a quarter final from some avenue?! It's far too easy and a bit lazy to open up on Kildare when all the same questions can be asked of lots of other counties. And calling amateur players who give up their free time to give their all to represent their county 'pathetic' shows a lack of class. It was a bad day for Kildare, simple as.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/08/2015 21:28:13    1763424

most counties dont have the population or resources that kildare have....kildare should be doing much better with what they have

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 03/08/2015 21:43:32    1763444

I feel a lot of sympathy for Kildare right now, they have good footballers, have showed that, but the steel is missing. And that's not an easy thing to acquire if it is not naturally there. But things will improve for them, of that I have no doubt!

Kerry are a very physical team and are very difficult to play against, have know-how and natural confidence that's comes with their huge tradition.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 03/08/2015 21:50:09    1763454

hilarious when people use the word 'unacceptable'!! like there is anything a lad typing on a keyboard can do apart from accept it!. You'd swear the players are paid by the fans and they all need to text us all an individual apology! It's a perfectly reasonable assumption right now to say that Kildare will win div 3 next year, lose to Dublin in leinster and with a kind draw, make the QF in 2016 making it another decent year for the 7th year in the past 9.


Not much ranting happening just now about Armagh, Down and Meath-- who beat nobody this year and exited pretty tamely. But Westmeath are an amazing team with such heart and courage and class and skill due largely to a last minute goal over an average meath team.

Will this defeat really set us back years or will it be forgotten about by Wednesday. Will those lads be searching deep into their souls on Friday night or out in the pub having a pint with their mates. I certainly hope they are in the pub, they've worked hard all year, they owe nobody nothing.

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 04/08/2015 09:08:16    1763488

switec

I certainly hope they are in the pub, they've worked hard all year, they owe nobody nothing.

Well said I just wish other counties would recognise the incredible sacrifices being made by all county players. But well said.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 04/08/2015 10:48:23    1763552

Switec I agree and hope that the chaps are out enjoying themselves. Does that make them immune to criticism though?

I would say that as long as the criticism isn't personel or nasty that these lads know playing county football can bring an element of that.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 04/08/2015 11:00:06    1763561

Well put last couple of posters , there are many who analyse and when players fall short want a hanging , I would imagine most in the Kildare panel woke up yesterday morning and just wanted to pull the covers over their heads , they couldn't they have to face family friends and club folk . Criticism and praise go hand in hand , you never going to get one without the other , but these lads should get treatment deserving of an amateur , as for county boards they are the real ones who let down their following .
For me Ryan hasn't done a bad job from what they have , how they could have done with a Doyle to marshall the troops .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/08/2015 11:09:33    1763576

Daytona--I think most of the criticism is of the perfect hindsight variety and seems to suggest that solutions are simple. Also 99% is not really thought through and more venting eg ' we never laid a glove on them, no red or black cards, a disgrace' -- red and black cards would mean less people on the field and 2-3 more goals for Kerry, I am glad the players did not make it any worse by succumbing to frustration and doing their team mates a disservice by getting sent off.

I'd also say any criticism we have to put across is already known by the players and manager.

My main point I guess is defeat is part of the game and anybody who thinks sunday was 'unacceptable and a disgrace' probably needs to stop following GAA as the game is not for them!

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 04/08/2015 11:11:17    1763578

How did Kildare defeat a Cork team that had drawn with Kerry?

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 04/08/2015 12:37:47    1763641

It was mostly to do with the 7 day thing Crikey.

Don't let our defeat on Sunday fool you either. We are not better than Kerry but we are a hell of a better team than 7 goals in 35 minutes suggests.

Again I think you have to look at the 7 day gap.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 04/08/2015 12:52:38    1763655

Cork's All-Ireland was in Killarney. Their year and training was geared towards it. They had nothing left to give v Kildare and didn't fancy another hiding from us so they packed it in.

SeppBlatter (Dublin) - Posts: 187 - 04/08/2015 12:57:19    1763659

Cant really blame the 7 day gap when cork only had a 6 day gap. Thats just how the draw is at the min.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 04/08/2015 13:07:28    1763670

Defeats are part and parcel of the game switec, but conceding 7 goals in one half of football should set alarm bells ringing for any county reaching the quarter final stage. Its too easy to say its no big deal, forget it and go on to next year like it won't happen again. This wasn't a hard luck game or Kildare put in a good account of themselves, this was a mauling of the highest order and it was the second Kildare faced in 2 months.
The point I'm making is that the manner of these defeats should give Kildare county board and its supporters serious concern. What's going to happen to Kildare GAA if this all becomes a common theme in their defeats? The support will drop, sponsorship deals start to dry up and it becomes harder to recruit younger players.
For arguments sake, say in a few years time, Kildare found themselves playing division 4 football, getting knocked out of the championship at the first qualifier stage on a regular basis, will you still be shrugging the shoulders and say "ah well there's always next year"?

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 04/08/2015 18:31:40    1763951

Yerrah hold yar whist. There's no such thing as a rant up there at all. A rave is a different matter mind.

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 05/08/2015 11:06:26    1764184

keithlemon
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You say conceding 7 goals should start alarm , how many did we ship to Meath 5 years ago , and what followed , poor day at the office being blown way out of proportion .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/08/2015 11:19:01    1764193

keithlemon

of course i'll shrug my shoulders if we hit div 4 and get walloped in the 1st round. It's just a game of football. What can I do about it if other counties have better players than us? Should I cry? Does being a drama queen bring results for you?

We've had decent summers over the last 8 years, I don't have too many complaints. Did Down, Armagh or Meath have a better year than us? Are they ranting now?

We'll be back next year with every chance of making the QF I expect. I tend not to whinge, but you craic on getting mad about stuff and let us all know about the manner in which angry typing on a keyboard brings about radical change in a county football team!

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 05/08/2015 11:30:41    1764203

KeithLemon,

These are our championship stats

Played 7

Won 4

Drew 1

Lost 2

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 05/08/2015 12:08:28    1764236

Keithlemon what county are you from? Stop hiding behind Australia and nail your colours to a mast! Let's analyse your county's performance down the years and see what their shortcomings are! There isn't a county down the years who hasn't gone through a lean run.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 05/08/2015 12:39:47    1764270