Yes benny,it was ridiculous how no Cork player even hit Glynn a shoulder.The defence opened up like the red sea,similiar to how A Gleeson ran through unopposed v Cork last year.It is not what you expect at this level.Ive rarely(cant think of any)seen such poor defending from one of the top teams.Even Waterfords last goal v Cork in League final this year was far too easy.I think it was right of Shefflin to compare to N Hickey or JJ.Not a hope in hell any player would have been able to run 40 yards,lobbing a ball over a defenders head without so much as a shoulder.It was completely naive defending,and didnt send out the right message for remainder of game.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/07/2015 11:34:37    1759573

All that you say is true CUEdrocket. I don't argue with that. However, Mark Ellis had the opportunity to pull Johnny Glynn to the ground. Should he have done that? Taken an early yellow card? was he naive in that sense?

Austin Gleeson pulled down Dotsy- should he have left him go past and try to flick that ball of the stick or try to get a hook and block in or was he dead right to pull him down? After all Waterfrd are now in AI semi-final and means/ends/justification and all that right?

Damien Cahalane pulled down Conor Cooney after he got through? (that should have been a straight red aS he pulled the helmet but these days the refs are ignoring those rules and just dishing out yellows)..he was dead right to do that was he not? Cork were still in the game at that point and he needed to minimise risk of Galway getting a goal? Surely that was 'good' defending as seems to be being advocated..after all had he not got his first yellow (he didn't even deserve a free against him), that cynical tug on Cooney would have meant him staying on the field under the current incorrect interpretation of the rule regarding pulling a players helmet..

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 27/07/2015 11:57:20    1759596

Im not advocating pulling,dragging Oor chopping benny.No way should Glynn have been allowed lob a ball over the full backs head without getting hit a fair shoulder.Only 30 seconds into the game and Cork let him waltz through to score one of the easiest goals ive ever seen.Hindsight is great,but i thought the game was up for Cork already.1 minute in - game over.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/07/2015 12:48:28    1759642

The one thing that bothers me is the sledging that is going on. It seems to me that Shanahan from Waterford was giving Rushe a fair bit if it and Rushe had enough of it and struck Shanahan on the side of the helmet. The strike was deserving of a red card, no doubt about that, but the sledging is not being dealt with by ANY referee in either hurling or football. That is my gripe currently!

As for the issuing of yellow and black cards .... Some are given due to recent interpretations of what is seen as loose use of the hurl. Take the player who got a yellow for hitting the hand of his opponent as he was about to catch it. To me, it was not even a free, He needs to protect his hand, and the player only made a tap with the hurl, it was no more than that.

Also, the hurl that comes over the neck , very often last year, in the reign if the Monaghan former referee's tenure - has put players on notice that even the small player who slips or bends down can have the player whose hurl is around his neck getting a yellow.

Two hurling referees only inmo do not care about these recent interpretations when it comes to the business end, namely Gavin and McGrath. The rest seem to take on board what has been judged as being over the top.

There are inconsistencies of interpretation and we all know that counties have their homework done prior to the game regarding what they can get away with. Little doubt about that, even if present and former players deny this.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 27/07/2015 18:06:29    1759930

Hurling referees are letting far too much go. And the GAA needs to get tough on all this fist pumping, taunting, some players jump up after winning a free like they had won the match. There is nothing sporting about some of those Waterford players, pulling around the head and neck area is completely out of order but should 1 of those players have been on the pitch after what happened in a club game recently and was highlighted in the media? I dont believe he should.

What Rushe did was wrong, but so is all the taunting and verbals which proceed it. If that is where we are at in terms of the win at all costs mentality we are in a bad place.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 29/07/2015 09:02:09    1760563

The refs are not up to the job in my opinion.Granted it is a tough job and they don't have the benefit of replays on TV ( they should).I felt sorry for Rushe and Cahalane the last day.
Rushe was being provoked , he lost it and deserved to see red but what about Shanahan? Totally unsporting what he was at especially in the context of the game being as good as over.
Cahalane just reacted instinctively as the Galway player went by him, no intent in my opinion.Austin Gleeson got away with cynically taking a man down to stop a goal, why didn't he see yellow for that and then red?
Refs need to be fair and consistent, justice must be done and be seen to be done.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 29/07/2015 15:07:43    1760861

The panel went to town on Wexford for a few strokes in a certain game in 2013. Haven't really seen a big deal made of it since. I'd be more worried about the provocative attitudes that started it. Rushe was getting an awful time. It was a time bomb

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2713 - 30/07/2015 20:35:43    1761436