Kerry May win on Sunday, but I hope Kildare upset the odds, and put an ordinary Kerry side out on their ear.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 28/07/2015 18:00:37    1760421

An awful lot went wrong for Cork

1) 3 players dropped for offences - 2 to the bench and 1 from the squad
2) 7 day turn-around
3) lost Alan o'Connor early to injury
4) lose Loughrey to a black card
5) hit the bar with a goal attempt when it looked almost impossible to miss; Kildare go down the pitch and get a goal
6) Cork going for goals from way too early - they started goal hunting with about 20-25 minutes left. The fact that they were so focused on goals meant that Kildare backs could afford to drop back and clog up space around the goal-line. Cork didnt even have the sense/game intelligence to pop over a point of tow from medium distance during this time to lure the Kildare backs out a bit.

kildare's win was built on their almost absolute midfield dominance - from both their own kick out and from the Cork kickout. No way are they going to get anything like such an amount of easy quality possession in midfield against Kerry.

besidetheditch (Dublin) - Posts: 81 - 28/07/2015 18:27:27    1760430

If Kerry don't win on Sunday I will eat my Meath Jersey buy a Dublin one and change my name to Damo ,ordinary really come on ,Dublin and Kerry are going to win the next 3all Ireland's between them what's wrong with giving credit where it's due Kerry have brilliant players in every line of the team as do the dubs and any county would take there players in a hart beat

matthematx (Meath) - Posts: 177 - 28/07/2015 19:13:56    1760445

This Kildare team while steadily improving is still far from a team capable of winning the All-Ireland this year but in a year or two they will I feel be genuine contenders with arguably the greatest crop of underage talent coming through since the 1960's.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2990 - 28/07/2015 19:14:02    1760446

delighted to see our fellow leinster counties are so full of optimism for Kildare chances on Sunday...well speaking as someone who was actually there on Saturday last, we will give Kerry a good old rattle....we may not win, but we will give them a heck of a game, so please enough of the negativity, concentrate on your own county,because some are not the world beaters they believe they are....

lily75 (Kildare) - Posts: 130 - 28/07/2015 19:31:41    1760454

While It is a big stretch to imagine we could beat the All Ireland champions on Sunday, I think it is fair to say that we are better now than the side that got relegated to Div 3 in the league and the side that got walloped by Dublin by 19 points. We were deservedly relegated to div 3 as we did not play well enough to stay up, but there were some mitigating factors, Firstly we spent most of the league experimenting with different systems none of which were particularly successful and some of which were horrific (the meath game springs to mind) Secondly, Alan Smith, Emmet Bolton, Peter Kelly, Tommy Moolick & Niall Kelly missed most of the league through injury and Kevin Murnaghan and Cathal McNally did not feature at all. For the Dublin game, Moolick, Niall Kelly, Peter Kelly, and Fergal Conway were still not starting and Ollie Lyons went off injured after 5 mins. Since then, for the first time this year we have been able to get some consistency in training and matches with mostly a full strength squad and our game has improved accordingly.
We have had some big championship wins in 2014, v Louth 1 22 to 1 08, v Down 1 18 to 0 11, and losing to Monaghan after extra time (2 -16 2-14)and this year v Laois (replay)3-19 to 1-11, and Longford, 2-24 to 1-11, so beating Cork 1-21 to 1-13 may not be the total freak result that it first appears.
Kerry obviously have a catalogue of results far greater and against far stronger opposition to be too concerned by any of that, but we are not the total no hopers that some would make out.

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 28/07/2015 21:05:20    1760515

this below post just daft, we've had 'talented youngfellas' coming tru for years. The notion that a team that hasn't won a championship trophy in 15 years will become 'genuine contenders' is crazy. Kildare need to wrestle the no 2 spot in leinster off meath to start with. They have beaten us well the last 2 times we met in leinster so anyone who thinks we are now no 2 in leinster are just ignoring the facts.



lilywhite 1
This Kildare team while steadily improving is still far from a team capable of winning the All-Ireland this year but in a year or two they will I feel be genuine contenders with arguably the greatest crop of underage talent coming through since the 1960's

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 29/07/2015 08:48:37    1760549

I have a serious question for all ye keyboard warriors far and wide,
A little incident happend in the Kildare v cork game on Saturday evening that didn't get a mention and that was the sending off of Kevin o'driscoll for kicking out at an apponent,
My question is how come when lee keegan did the very same thing to Johnny Buckley in last years semi final and he got the same punishment there was uproar over it there was even threads started on this forum about it? How come in this situation there is nothing mentioned at all?
Would it be because Kerry weren't involved last Saturday evening?
I'm not trying to wind anybody up or anything I just don't get the double standards on here or in the media when it comes to Kerry.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 29/07/2015 12:51:52    1760746

switec
Not in the least daft switec. I'll bet that you would have thought it daft that Kildare could beat Cork. I agree that we have had talented players coming through over the years but we have a greater number coming through at the present time. Of course we know that underage success doesn't always guarantee senior success. Their needs to be proper management structures in place. Yet our under 21's from 2013 are developing into good senior players. Just because we haven't won a major championship trophy in 15 years means nothing. The fact that Donegal hadn't won an All-Ireland since 1992 didn't deter them from winning in 2012, only two years since they were beaten out the gate in Croke Park by Cork.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2990 - 29/07/2015 13:15:28    1760769

lilywhite 1
Genuine contenders is such a stretch. We are no 3 in leinster until we go and beat Meath in a championship game. We are facing the back door route every year with the Dubs so dominant, second tier teams like Derry, Galway, Meath, Armagh, Down etc are all more than capable of beating us and do so all the time. We don't have any match winning forwards (Kelly could become one but it will take more than 1 game) and will be playing Div 3 football next year. But still you reckon September football in 2 years time is possible!! No chance. The only trophy we can hope to win in the next 3 years is a league division title of some sort.

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 29/07/2015 13:52:13    1760797

Switec who gives a damn about being 2nd in Leinster, where are your 2nd choice now? If we were to go with the bulk of your posts about KIldare's limitations you'd wonder how the lads could evenlace their own boots never mind win a game of football. No matter how they play or who they beat you will undermine them. Any poster giving any optimism is to you being unrealistic and you can't wait to light on any positive posts re Kildare.
Despite what you preach we have some above average players even some very good ones. We have some good forwards and they have scored highly throughout this campaign. Despite the hammering from Dublin they still scored 14 points against them, not many teams will do that.
If posters want to see their team has a chance against Kerry great, maybe the team like to see we have a bit of faith in them, they deserve at least that! If you want to continue with your defeatist posts by all means carry on but don't knock lads for seeing the best in their team or daring to think they have a chance.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 29/07/2015 21:15:13    1761066

Kildare have earned respect across the championship. Kerry are going to be sitting ducks in their team bus heading towards an ambush. It's very similar to the time we took on Down in '10. We don't need any reminding of what happened on that afternoon.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7847 - 29/07/2015 21:54:40    1761092

St Conleth.
Firstly, calm down , it is only a forum! I have posted plenty of positive comments too and I think we have a chance against Kerry. I don't believe we will be contenders for the all-Ireland in the next 3 years and I call that an honest observation, not negative. I doubt you were posting much about our all Ireland chances when we hit division 3 but 1 victory over Cork and its time to talk about all Irelands in the coming years. I challenged a post with an alternative point of view, I am far more likely to be right too but apparently I shouldn't say that as those with delicate sensibilities might think it negative!! Fair enough, Kildare for Sam!!

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 30/07/2015 08:59:45    1761108

I think Kerry will get a good game from Kildare. If some of the Kerry players dont start improving their form we could get knocked out.
As some poster said, Kildare should go for it as Kerry prob dont have the same aura as Dublin have.
However slim Kildare will feel they have a chance whereas against Dublin their players woke up the morning of that game already beaten.

If Kerry play poorly there is every chance we can get knocked out like Down in 2010 but if the boys are on form I think we should win with 6/7 points to spare.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 30/07/2015 09:07:50    1761111

Best of luck to Kildare against Kerry. Saw them earlier in the league in Navan and they were very poor and lacked direction...have made great strides since it seems, despite a lot of negativity around them, good to see.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 30/07/2015 09:08:36    1761112

Can someone answer me this, Did anyone give Kildare a chance against Cork even though Cork were on a 7 day turnaround every paper every pundit even the bookies didnt give Kildare a chance now after we beat them well we are hearing all the excused from the so call experts. You have to give Kildare great credit for there victory they went out and played what was in front of them and beat them well.
I for one didnt give Kildare a chance against Cork but i did have a few euro on them and I will be doing the same on Sunday, confidence is a great thing in sport there is always a bit of hope in the players and supporters anyway.

carburyhill (Kildare) - Posts: 19 - 30/07/2015 09:48:43    1761117

I was talking to a Lilly friend of mine yesterday, and we just compared Kildare and Meath season, i was in navan for the league match and Kildare for the first time i can ever recall put in a ultra defensive blanket or call it whatever , Meath eventually with there more attacked minded set up got the win, i said it afterwards it was very unkildare like to employ such a tactic , move onto to both of our last games Meath tried to out Tyrone Tyrone, and failed miserably. Kildare attack cork and are now heading for a cut at Kerry. People go on about 2 best in Leinster? Makes no difference, ill answer one very clear question, which position i or any Meath man want to be in, playing div 3 next but in all ire quarters? Or in division 2 and out of championship before mid July?? Give me Kildare position every day of year and twice on a Sunday.
Best wishes and i hope you beat kerry.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/07/2015 10:12:54    1761120

That's the thing, no matter what manner Kildare beat Cork by the 7 day turnaround was always going to be mentioned by everyone. Nobody will give Kildare credit but that will suit us, I can honestly say it was one of the best Kildare performances in a very long time. We played with a hunger and desire and we were up for the fight, considering what's happened this year I dont think we have been given enough credit for that. Yes Cork were poor, but Kildare can't do anything about that, People also forget that Loughrey's black card stopped an inevitable goal. Obviously hes a great defender but McNally was going to score and the rules are rules. Losing O'Connor was tough for Cork but we also lost our captain and most experienced player too. As for the Kerry game Sunday we have to play with that same determination and hunger again, Kerry have the players who can turn it on whenever they please. I would worry about Kildare's lack of real depth in the squad which is becoming more apparent as the games pass by.

ShortGrass_1 (Kildare) - Posts: 223 - 30/07/2015 10:20:09    1761121

I would have always had a soft spot for Kildare, even when they got the better of us a few times. Great to see another leinster team in the quarter finals and hopefully they will give a real good account of themselves. Always play a lovely style of football might not get the results every time. Let's hope they have gained a lot of confidence from last weekend and can improve on it. I am sure kerry will bring their own variety of skillsets to the fore if things go against them.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 30/07/2015 10:33:18    1761124

Agree with switec. Not contenders. there was similar talk a few years back. i like Kildare but they need to win lenister before AI talk can be spoken about

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 30/07/2015 11:22:38    1761142