A lot of anger for Wayno here it seems.I cant honestly say i never noticed his apathy towards Dublin hurling,but if he does,thats sad to see.I dont understand any county supporters who would want to slate either their footballers or hurlers because they prefer one over the other.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/07/2015 11:19:10    1759560

Cuederocket , if you have to spell it out for the fella , you already had your answer . Being anti hurling I can stomach , but anti your own county which he is, no matter the protestations , neutral my ars7 .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 27/07/2015 13:46:37    1759681

where to start just like last years hurling quarter finals in thurles
very poor day out
on the pitch and off it
was one of the worst atmospheres at a match i have ever seen
heard people even suggest a tennis game had more atmosphere than this at one stage.
was in the killinan end terrace and my god the sound system coming from the stand
was like something from the 1940s, it was at ear drum bursting levels
and during the games gave out an extremly loud humming noise from it.
terrible stuff I have to say.
on the field we played like we did all summer I suppose
no real togetherness in our play and were again lucky to be in the game at half time
never mind ahead as waterfords forwards were very selfish
at least 5 occasions they had a two on one situation 30 yards out and instead of working a goal
the player in possesion took the greedy option.
throwing peter kelly in out of position was again another baffling decision by management
when clearly our full back line wasnt coping all day.
he left it way too late to bring cian boland in also who was the obvious man once we needed a goal
as his direct running would cause problems.
on the day waterford deserved the win and played better as a team
but disspointing thing for ourselves is we didnt perform to anywhere near what we had been performing at in the league.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/07/2015 14:04:22    1759697

I fear Dublin are going backwards, they had great potential and were breaking through barriers in 2013 I think it was, and it was great to see, but a poor championship from the metropolitans this year,an expected hammering of Laois, left behind v Galway in part 1, trounced by Galway in part 2, a diabolic win in worst game of the championship to date v Limerick and then yesterday again. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching the Dubs hurl, they have some proper classy players. Hope ye bounce back next year dubs but as another poster outlined with a good few retirements expected, I'm not sure there will be much advancing next year.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 27/07/2015 14:34:13    1759731

Complete bs we got to were our standard is a quarter final and a defeat to Waterford nothing going backwards or forwards were exactly were we've always been since '11 , were an ok solid team who can give a big team a game but nowhere near an all Ireland winning team and never have been if we're being honest, granted we nearly got to a final in '13 but that was more to do with Tipp and Kilkenny getting knocked out early.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/07/2015 15:08:30    1759764

Dublinplayed quite well at times yesterday but always felt Waterford were going to prove too strong in the second half & once they had the 5-6 point lead it was always going to be difficult for them to claw it back. Cunningham has done well enough but I have doubts if they can push on from here & be serious contenders.

Illusionist (Cork) - Posts: 79 - 27/07/2015 16:13:38    1759834

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Complete bs we got to were our standard is a quarter final and a defeat to Waterford nothing going backwards or forwards were exactly were we've always been since '11 , were an ok solid team who can give a big team a game but nowhere near an all Ireland winning team and never have been if we're being honest, granted we nearly got to a final in '13 but that was more to do with Tipp and Kilkenny getting knocked out early.

In fairness, it was you guys that knocked Kilkenny out of the championship that year (or into the qualifiers at least), beating them in a replay no less. Dublin have a better record against Kilkenny over the last 5 years than Tipp, you guys beat them in a league final as well. That's a pretty high standard.

Its been a strange year for Dublin, brilliant in some parts of the league, awful in others. The semi against Cork saw the best and the worst. The collapse against Galway was grim, their worst performance in years. But they seemed to steady the ship, and turned the year around somewhat, with a win over Limerick, and a battling performance against Waterford. Its Ger's first year, there were always going to be teething problems. But I think a foundation may have been laid in the last 2 games.
But, the basic issue for Dublin hurling will always be the same, getting their best under-age players to stick with hurling. If they ever find a way to address that issue, the county will have a bright hurling future.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 27/07/2015 17:04:11    1759881

i fail to see how yesterdays performance can in anyway shape or form be viewed as a positive for dublin
lets face it waterford played a division below us
we have beaten them over the last few years
yesterday was far from a battling performance from dublin
somehow despute being outplayed we found ourselves in front at halt time
just like against limerick somehow we were still in that game at half time when it should have been all over.
the second half we looked clueless on the line
throwing in peter kelly to the half forward/midifled area
when the full back line was getting roasted smacked of cluelessness
when we had cian boland on the line and eamonn dillon two guys who could create something.
very dissapointing day i felt

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/07/2015 18:14:38    1759937

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
i fail to see how yesterdays performance can in anyway shape or form be viewed as a positive for dublin
lets face it waterford played a division below us

If you're saying Dublin should have beaten Waterford because they happened to be in 1b this year, you're way off. Waterford won the league this outright year, beating 1a teams to do so, they were the best team in the league this year.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 27/07/2015 18:54:43    1759963

Ah the manager is getting the blame now ffs give it a rest man seriously we don't have the players that are good enough , will you please stop blaming every Dublin manager after a defeat , we can all do that with hindsight.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/07/2015 20:05:02    1759992

marlon

im saying getting beaten by waterford by 5 or 6 points is not a good performance for dublin
we have been ahead of them for the last 3 or 4 years
and this years championship was a step backwards
we got beaten well by two teams we had the measure of over last few years
yes they desrved to win the national league
but dublin were playing far better teams than waterford were playing in the league to get to the knockout stages
when came to championship we seemed to never find the same level of performance that we were capable
of producing during the league

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/07/2015 20:50:22    1760021

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 6446

1759992
Ah the manager is getting the blame now ffs give it a rest man seriously we don't have the players that are good enough , will you please stop blaming every Dublin manager after a defeat , we can all do that with hindsight.

so you think when we need a goal peter kelly(a full back) is the man to throw into the forward area
give me a break man
you cannot see the wood from the trees sometimes
cunningham ignored the fact our full back line was been pulled asunder in the first half
and we payed dearly in the second half
and ironically the one man who could have shored it up
he threw in to the half forward line
also when we needed a goal he pulled keaney into the middle of the park
and we continued to pump long ball into a free waterford man standing on the 14 yard line
we didnt deserve to win on the day, a blind man could see that as we didnt perform good enough
but to suggest that the manager shouldnt be called up on some woeful decision making is ridiculous.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/07/2015 20:54:51    1760023

No shame yesterday, we lost to a better team simple as that.At least we fought to the bitter end, we never threw the towel in.A pity that Rushe was sent off, I put it down to frustration and provocation.As usual in GAA the guy doing the provoking gets away scot free.
Waynol if you don't care about Dublin hurling don't comment.to describe what Rushe did as 'smashing the guy with a hurl" is ridiculous .

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 27/07/2015 20:57:04    1760026

After a defeat let's blame the manager cause we have to blame someone so it might as well be him.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/07/2015 21:10:50    1760030

Thruth in a lot posted , firstly the sideline have not had a great year Id agree ,
IMO our lads on a certain day can give most teams a fright , but we dont have enough quality strenght in dept to take the big one , you reap what you sow , one current development squad has 60 players of that number 23 are dual , its a fact of life we dont always get the best of certain generations , but hey no point in moaning about it .
We have lads who played yesterday that wouldnt make either Kilkennys or Tipps squads , lads with a lot of milage , great great servants but past their best ,
Its also true that its easy to blame the line , individual decision making poor ,touch at times poor nothing to do with the line ,
Finally the state of our league and championship are equally accountable for turning or not turning out better players .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 27/07/2015 21:30:10    1760034

As so often with Dublin it was small basic errors that let us down Sunday.

Well in the game at half time a minute into the second half we make 2 very basic errors that kill us. 1) paul Ryan wins the ball on his own 45. Instead of driving it long into Scutte for example he stalls a second and flat footed tries to play a short pass which is hooked and the ball ends up with a Waterford man who plays a poor enough ball in but this ball in leads to an even more basic mistake 2) Cian OCallaghan, a fine young hurler who will in my view go onto be a great, he on a wet day attempts to play this ball on his stick rather then catch it. The mid control allows the ball to fall into to Maurice Shanahans hand and seconds later goal. If he puts the hand out and catches there's no goal.

It's an error he would have got away with in club hurling in Dublin and that for me is our biggest killer. Though in saying that lads at this level should know better.

Overall were a young enough team take out Keaney and Dotsy, 2 great servants and hurlers, and the rest are well under 30. We need some fresh blood ok but nothing wholesale. We also need a goal hungry forward, I think SChutte is one but we don't use him well enough

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 28/07/2015 18:21:14    1760429