RTE are listed as showing an as yet un named qualifier on saturday on the Sky planner..>???

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 07/07/2015 13:53:23    1749218

07/07/2015 11:33:30
Jinxie
Ormond Surely live sport is better than repeats. I'm not suggesting they put other live stuff off, but it's hardly a prime time slot. Sky don't have rights to more and its hard to say that live GAA would attract more across UK/Ireland than the programmes they did show
07/07/2015 11:46:13 riverboys
Don't be relying on Sky to show games, hopefully that contract will be scrapped after next year, it's a complete disaster, majority of Irish people don't even know what games are on since Sky got involved Wouldn't see it being good if Sky contract is scrapped. Who would show the games Sky have shown if Sky moved on? Games are either RTE/Sky not exactly rocket science for people to figure out...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/07/2015 13:57:55    1749227

If televised matches are removed by the GAA then the sport is finished, I remember years ago when only AllIreland semi finals and final was broadcast on TV, most people didn't even know the name of their county players but on a plus side club matches were massive, since the televised matches and backdoor system happened club matches appear to be coming in the way. I don't think i attended a Connacht champ match until 1997, never had an interest in the county team until the AllIreland semis, since TV coverage happened I attend every Mayo game, if Sky get the rights to majority or all GAA matches then the sport will end up like English rugby, plenty of money but nobody knows the players, I remember 2 members of the England rugby team being on a TV show when Sky had exclusive rights to show their games and the TV host saying welcome to so and so, the crowd half applauded, they hadn't a clue who these 2 men were, they could have been just 2 lads who just were walking past the studio and asked would they go on TV, we are pushing this ethos of welcome to all and are assessable to everybody regardless of race or religion but with the Sky deal majority of people in Ireland can't see the games, that's wrong and no point upper and middle class people in their posh houses telling the rest of us to support the Sky deal. No, it has to be free to all and on terrestrial TV, don't care what channel shows them

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/07/2015 14:12:21    1749244

Riverboys? What age were you when you went to a Mayo game in 97?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 07/07/2015 14:26:41    1749265

Another example of the class system operated in Ireland (Republic of). If you have plenty of money nothing is a problem.
SKy v RTE
Very similar to the two-tier health service

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 07/07/2015 14:28:32    1749267

Jayses a Garda wouldn't ask that question, to make it easier for you I only retired from playing football in the last few years, then again I wouldn't be going to Mayo games back then unless a driver was going but I never asked to go, preferred watching my club play instead, more enjoyment watching the neighbouring supporters blaggading each other, that's all gone mow, I'm afraid club football appears redundant

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/07/2015 14:40:56    1749283

riverboys club football is far from over in Derry. Takes more importance than county

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 07/07/2015 15:21:29    1749327

bbc only show ulster championship thats it

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1806 - 07/07/2015 15:25:29    1749329

What is it people are having difficulty understanding. The gaa sell the rights for a certain number of games before the championship begins. RTÉ and SKY announced their schedules before the season began (replays excluded). There is four games live across the weekend. Three hurling and one football. It's rare hurling gets top billing so there's not much to quibble about over it getting it this weekend. On Saturday cork v clare is clearly top billing and sky rightly chose it for their 7pm game . It left RTÉ with the choice of dublin v limerick in hurling or Tyrone/Meath armagh/galway in the football for their 5pm game. Obviously there are other stakeholders involved in agreeing match times. Sky and RTÉ do not have the rights to show a 3pm game. Besides there will be full radio coverage for those not going to the game.

Meathcoaster (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 07/07/2015 15:45:25    1749341

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Another example of the class system operated in Ireland (Republic of). If you have plenty of money nothing is a problem.
SKy v RTE
Very similar to the two-tier health service
That is a nonsense argument. In Britain the premier league is only available to subscription viewers, as are many sporting rights around the world. There's not many arguing sporting rights are symptomatic of a nations health service.

Meathcoaster (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 07/07/2015 15:52:16    1749345

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If televised matches are removed by the GAA then the sport is finished, I remember years ago when only AllIreland semi finals and final was broadcast on TV, most people didn't even know the name of their county players but on a plus side club matches were massive, since the televised matches and backdoor system happened club matches appear to be coming in the way. I don't think i attended a Connacht champ match until 1997, never had an interest in the county team until the AllIreland semis, since TV coverage happened I attend every Mayo game, if Sky get the rights to majority or all GAA matches then the sport will end up like English rugby, plenty of money but nobody knows the players, I remember 2 members of the England rugby team being on a TV show when Sky had exclusive rights to show their games and the TV host saying welcome to so and so, the crowd half applauded, they hadn't a clue who these 2 men were, they could have been just 2 lads who just were walking past the studio and asked would they go on TV, we are pushing this ethos of welcome to all and are assessable to everybody regardless of race or religion but with the Sky deal majority of people in Ireland can't see the games, that's wrong and no point upper and middle class people in their posh houses telling the rest of us to support the Sky deal. No, it has to be free to all and on terrestrial TV, don't care what channel shows them
There are 45 (25 RTÉ/14 Sky +6 shared)live games shown on TV (plus a number of replays) from the gaa championship. This is an extremely high ratio of games shown out of total games and compares favourably to most rights around the world. There has to be a balance. We don't want every game broadcast live. There is already an effect on match attendances, more live games would only make this worse.

Meathcoaster (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 07/07/2015 16:03:27    1749361

Theres alot of irish people living in england. So i think its good that sky show some games. Plus whats wrong with promoting our great games. Iv being talking to alot of english people and they think great to watch. they think hurling is a lunatic sport. But cant get enough of it.

hogan35 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 93 - 07/07/2015 16:11:25    1749365

I understand that people want to get rid of sky so that everyone can watch the games but I have to say there coverage has been brilliant this year. In an ideal world, RTE will get sole rights next year, fire every single member of staff and hire all the Sky guys! Apart from the lady host, voice is fierce annoying.

Interesting point regarding the number of games shown on TV. There is a fine line between showing too many and not enough of them. Obviously as a neutral this weekend I'd like to see every game on TV but it really adds to the attendance and atmosphere when the game is not on tv. For example, I would be heading up to Omagh to watch this weekends game whereas I wouldn't if it was on TV.

white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 07/07/2015 16:14:38    1749367

Sound so Riverboys
. I wrongly thought you never had an interest in football until RTE expanded it's coverage. Was actually thinking "Is this buck from Mayo at all at all"!!!

I was brought to games and loved going when I was 8 or 9. No Mayo on the telly back then in tge late 70s. Just the promise of 15 gods in green and red, passionate crowds, a load of swearing and inevitable defeat. Football hadn't much competition then. No-one staying at home to 'stream' the game. The only stream we got thenwas the odd downpour. I think in 10 years time that a lot of TV stations will have a subscription package of various live sports to view online. A bit like Netflix, TV stations as we knowbthem now will be rare. I hope the GAA are wide to this and always look to keep attendance figures up even if they can make more money selling TV rights. I can see a big benefit for ex-pats to watch live games. But if it means less and less people going to games because there are way more options to watch live games on TV or online, the magic of going to games will be lost to many.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 07/07/2015 16:31:36    1749378

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If televised matches are removed by the GAA then the sport is finished, I remember years ago when only AllIreland semi finals and final was broadcast on TV, most people didn't even know the name of their county players but on a plus side club matches were massive, since the televised matches and backdoor system happened club matches appear to be coming in the way. I don't think i attended a Connacht champ match until 1997, never had an interest in the county team until the AllIreland semis, since TV coverage happened I attend every Mayo game, if Sky get the rights to majority or all GAA matches then the sport will end up like English rugby, plenty of money but nobody knows the players, I remember 2 members of the England rugby team being on a TV show when Sky had exclusive rights to show their games and the TV host saying welcome to so and so, the crowd half applauded, they hadn't a clue who these 2 men were, they could have been just 2 lads who just were walking past the studio and asked would they go on TV, we are pushing this ethos of welcome to all and are assessable to everybody regardless of race or religion but with the Sky deal majority of people in Ireland can't see the games, that's wrong and no point upper and middle class people in their posh houses telling the rest of us to support the Sky deal. No, it has to be free to all and on terrestrial TV, don't care what channel shows them
There are 45 (25 RTÉ/14 Sky +6 shared)live games shown on TV (plus a number of replays) from the gaa championship. This is an extremely high ratio of games shown out of total games and compares favourably to most rights around the world. There has to be a balance. We don't want every game broadcast live. There is already an effect on match attendances, more live games would only make this worse.

I would actually like to see the stats to back this up? I am yet to see a stat backing this argument up.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 07/07/2015 17:00:05    1749404

Hold on I didn't say scrap a Sky deal just this one, if RTE, TV3, TG4 ,UTV Ireland showed all TV games in Ireland that the GAA allow and Sky can show the same amount overseas I have no problem, the problem I have is Sky are showing exclusively GAA matches in Ireland as well as overseas that the rest of us can't watch unless we pay subscription. Allow Sky to show all GAA matches overseas, the more people that watch our games the better but we in Ireland have to be able to watch the same match on terrestrial TV channels, let GAA, Sky and the Irish TV stations work together to allow everybody to view our games like the 2 AllIreland finals Hurling and Football, that shows that they can work together, also it would save money for the TV stations for example the TV commentators could also be commentating for the other station and mean the TV stations could be at every game instead of these 30 second reports we see on Sunday night

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/07/2015 17:27:00    1749428

Maybe benjyy could take a dander to Owenbeg and watch the Derry men in their natural habitat without the polluted air of the city

4KHDoneill (Derry) - Posts: 182 - 07/07/2015 17:30:47    1749432

Maybe riversboys should stick to watching Home & Away

4KHDoneill (Derry) - Posts: 182 - 07/07/2015 17:33:53    1749434

07/07/2015 17:27:00 riverboys
Hold on I didn't say scrap a Sky deal just this one, if RTE, TV3, TG4 ,UTV Ireland showed all TV games in Ireland that the GAA allow and Sky can show the same amount overseas I have no problem, the problem I have is Sky are showing exclusively GAA matches in Ireland as well as overseas that the rest of us can't watch unless we pay subscription. Allow Sky to show all GAA matches overseas, the more people that watch our games the better but we in Ireland have to be able to watch the same match on terrestrial TV channels, let GAA, Sky and the Irish TV stations work together to allow everybody to view our games like the 2 AllIreland finals Hurling and Football, that shows that they can work together, also it would save money for the TV stations for example the TV commentators could also be commentating for the other station and mean the TV stations could be at every game instead of these 30 second reports we see on Sunday night There is nothing wrong with Sky showing games exclusively in Ireland.
There is no way Sky should only be allowed show games just overseas. there is no point for sky in getting coverage of games unless they have some games exclusive to heir own channel.
We in Ireland are not entitled to be able to watch all games on terrestrial stations. That wouldn't save money and your proposal is a non runner as nobody wants that

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/07/2015 18:25:19    1749461

There is zero chance that Sky would only broadcast GAA outside Ireland and the UK where they cannot sell Sky TV and/or broadband packages. It gives them an in to a market of GAA and possibly new GAA fans accross the water to sell Sky deals. Revenue from advertisements around these games are also important to them but more important to TV3 or RTE. Maybe now that UPC have bought TV3 they'll try getting some games back as it might benefit them in the TV/broadband package business.

All of them broadcast with an eye towards the size of the target audience and the age range and potential benefit to their advertisers. Tyrone v Meath looks a right game for us on Hogan but we represent a small number in viewing figures. We might spend a few quid after seeing an Elvery's ad at halftime but RTE could get more money from Condor Cruise holiday ads from an older audience being mind-numbed by Winning Streak.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 07/07/2015 19:28:46    1749492