In fairness it was an absolutely fantastic goal. The best of the year so far at senior level. It's difficult to execute a move like that with the pace and pressure of the senior game. for me it typified what Joe is all about. He didn't even need to look, he knew where the goal was and to just let fly. It was a real pure bred hurlers goal.

Lads laugh at me when I rave about Jack Guiney and I'm not saying he's the same league as Joe but his value lies in moments of brilliance that are not the norm. ie his goal v Dublin in 2013 or his pass to harry kehoe vs clare last year. It's class and instinct that you can't coach. That's what makes it so special.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3048 - 06/07/2015 11:14:49    1748200

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Excellent goal from Joe.But to say one of the best ever is way over the top.Catch,swivel and execution.Food and drink to a player of Joes capabilities.I also think the Wexford U21 goal was more impressive.Team work at its best.



How many players have you EVER seen who are as capable as Joe Canning? I could probably name 2 or 3 and even then I'm not sure there's ever been a more gifted all-round hurler.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5115 - 06/07/2015 11:26:25    1748224

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Excellent goal from Joe.But to say one of the best ever is way over the top.Catch,swivel and execution.Food and drink to a player of Joes capabilities.I also think the Wexford U21 goal was more impressive.Team work at its best.



How many players have you EVER seen who are as capable as Joe Canning? I could probably name 2 or 3 and even then I'm not sure there's ever been a more gifted all-round hurler.

I laughed at that post too, it's like slating Maradona's goal against England, where he beat practically the entire team singlehandedly, but it wasn't much really, cos it's easy for Maradona. lol

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 06/07/2015 11:33:45    1748240

Yeah great goal. But funny, last Wednesday night I was watching our clubs senior hurlers playing and one of our players scored a simlilar but better (in my opinion) goal. Long ball played forward coming over his head, he goes up with two of the opposition, fields it and starts the rotation in the air, feet have hardly touched the ground when he is now facing the goal, 30 metres+ out and puts it in the postage stamp corner of the net like a rocket. Pity RTEs cameras weren't there though and all he got was a few car horns beeping.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 06/07/2015 11:33:46    1748242

Id agree waynoI. While is was an impressive goal, it is being over-played, probably because it was scored by canning. If it was glynn for instance, would there be the furore? It was a high ball in and the defence got caught under it. He simply caught it unchallenged, kept going forward and drove it at goal. You see many defenders claim a high ball while retreating like that, but they will just sell a dummy and drive it out the field again.

The goal probably summed canning up for me. Fine piece of skill which got praised up to the high heavens, but where was he for the rest of the game?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 06/07/2015 11:58:06    1748279

Had we won I would be celebrating that goal but TheMaster's post is closer to reality.

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 06/07/2015 12:15:51    1748301

Absolutely offside rule.I have seen plenty goals of a similiar nature down through the years.Some in club games.Our Cavan and Kildare posters here seem to have lost the run of themselves.Id say Joe does this regularly in training and for his club.He scored a great goal in Leinster final few years back.Catching over Jackie Tyrell and burying to net.
Apart from the goal,Joe was very average.TJ Reid rarely has an average game.His workrate,high catching,setting up of scores and score taking were,once again,exemplary.TJ was by far the best hurler on the field.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2015 12:18:51    1748305

Ah come on Waynol it as a fantastic goal regardless of who scored it.Watching it again on TV you just don't appreciate the speed at which it was executed.A goal that will remain in the memory long after most of the game is forgotten.
I agree Joe didn't have the best of games but he was starved of possession for most of the game and he was up against the Kilkenny back line .I'ld love to see him full forward in that Kilkenny team just to see the damage he'll do. ( I wouldn't really)

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 06/07/2015 12:26:47    1748315

It was a great goal in fairness. If it was easy to do we would see goals like that all the time but we don't. To catch the ball out of sky while facing away from goal, spin and shoot accurately all in practically one fluent motion is not easy no matter what some say.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2264 - 06/07/2015 14:01:44    1748426

Dont think theres anyone saying it wasnt a great goal,but each year we are treated to numerous great goals.Of all different varieties.This was just another one.And no doubt there will be a lot more this year.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2015 15:15:36    1748559

It's all about silverware. No one remembers who comes second, from the Mayo footballers to the Buffalo Bills. No one remembers Matt Le Tissier for scoring great goals, or for not winning anything, apart from the people who do remember his great goals collection.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3831 - 06/07/2015 15:24:30    1748580

Who would posters prefer on their team?Joe Canning,Richie Hogan or TJ Reid?Personnally id choose the 2 Kilkenny men before Joe.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2015 15:28:21    1748585

I'd certainly take the two KK fellas, we have Joe on our side already.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3831 - 06/07/2015 15:31:47    1748592

Which do you think are the better players out of them pope?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2015 15:37:51    1748603

The catch, turn and foresight to do what he did was top class.. as good as you'll see

The strike itself wasn't altogtehr 100% clean

The Kilkenny keeper wasn't expecting it and he didn't really have the best positioning or shape to stop the ball

It's just that wee bit easier in hurling when you're in that close to score a goal

Any sort of connection usually results in a goal

If that was football and you sort of just swung a foot at it after catching it and caught it in a similar sort of fashion... a slight miskick lets say... well in football the keeper may well have saved it

So again the catch, turn and foresight was great.. truly great

Just the strike itself which wasn't the best...

That takes away from it ever so slightly

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20681 - 06/07/2015 15:47:28    1748620

I agree with the OP. I don't think it was as good as everyone is saying. Richie Power pulled of a similar catch in last years drawn final and buried it from the 21.

And as for everyone saying that Joe Canning is a modern great they are completely deluded. Richie Hogan has been by far a better player throughout his career and they only two months separate the two in age. Their two careers have ran almost parallel with each others.

Canning has bags of talent but he needs to really start putting up consistently brilliant performances. Running rampant against Dublin or Laois is no good when you cant do something similar against Kilkenny

deadybai (Kilkenny) - Posts: 63 - 06/07/2015 15:50:09    1748627

Great goal, simple as that.
Not a great performance all round from Canning but that was a little bit special.

TJ Reid was fantastic yesterday. Really came into his own the last 2 years. Great to watch him play, he has everything. Skill, strength, finishing and a massive work rate.

GAAHattrick (Dublin) - Posts: 278 - 06/07/2015 15:50:44    1748628

A hard question to answer. How would Joe do up front for Kilkenny? How would TJ Reid do in the Galway team. The quality of your teammates is a big factor in the success or failure of any intercounty player.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2264 - 06/07/2015 15:52:32    1748629

It amuses me sometimes when people criticise Canning, how they're not happy if he hasn't scored 2-10! He scored 1-1 on Sunday and was fouled for two more points, that's a contribution of 1-3 which is good.
He has a better championship scoring average than Henry Shefflin and that's in a team that doesn't win All-Irelands for fun.

Comparing him to TJ Reid is completely pointless. Keep in mind that Canning was double-teamed at all times, even for the goal. Kilkenny forwards don't get this level of marking because they have such a good spread of them - double team Reid and Richie Hogan goes to town etc.

The stat that struck me as being telling was that Galway had two only players who scored more than once from play (Cyril Donnellan was the other) whereas Kilkenny had 6. It's far easier to look good for Kilkenny than it is for Galway.

Beating Kilkenny won't be easy. I think Hogan has to be manmarked by a selfless defender (he scores way too much from picking up breaking ball) and the other forwards picked up man for man with one sweeper. With your 5 forwards against their 6 backs then, you have to keep pulling them all over the pitch (see P Horgan vs JJ Delaney in 2013 or Tipp's All Ireland win). Sounds good in theory, eh?!! The only 2 teams I can see do it this year are Tipp and Clare, though Clare might not get the chance, it's just that the style might be a good match-up.

1914 (Clare) - Posts: 92 - 06/07/2015 16:03:06    1748644

Yes marooned,a valid observation.However,for me personally,Joes workrate is not at the same standard or intensity of the Kilkenny players.Or a lot of the greats down the years.Skillwise,he has few equal.I never really see that savage intensity in Joes game.I dont think its part of his make up,and its not going to change now.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2015 16:12:57    1748655