jesus jack why are you continously making such excuses for meaths downfall..meath should be better than they are..its as simple as that..nothing to do with dublin or funding or anything...the funding should go to all the counties but to just blame dublin for meath getting so bad is just plain lazy

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 02/07/2015 17:57:39    1746609

fabio

You are dead right..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/07/2015 18:10:04    1746613

dickie10
County: UK
Posts: 252

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just wondering have the GAA put inplace any type of masterplan for these counties to promote better football coaching and helping them develop the very best facilites to stop their slide into becoming a so called weaker county. will take away some of the money directed to Dublin in the last 10 years and put it into these counties..? surely dublin is in a good enough state now and GAA is thriving there , time to move onto some where more needing funding for football. these three counties have 21 senior all irelands between them and a massive amount of provincial success with down not winning ulster since 1994 they are a t most risk . i think its hugely important to help these three great aristocrats of football back to the top table where they can aim at all irelands again.

they all have very little underage success in the last 10 years. what can the GAA do to get them moving again, is it a matter of purely throwing money at them. they all have good sized populations, and big towns so its probarbly more realsitic than giving money to lietrim, longford etc. plus there football mad counties compared to tipp, wexford, clare etc

Cavan have a lot more success than Down.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 02/07/2015 19:00:57    1746644

Kingdom's unique structure might help Down, Meath and Galway get back up

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/kingdoms-unique-structure-keeps-them-well-ahead-of-all-pretenders-314760.html

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 02/07/2015 21:39:00    1746739

crikey: Kerry model is good but Meath also have never had a problem bringing players through from non senior clubs, don't think thats our main problem at the moment. Many of our best players have often played for non senior clubs.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 03/07/2015 13:32:53    1746995

The Kerry model is fairly impressive. More games and less training. No wonder they can kick pass better than others.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 03/07/2015 13:36:42    1746999

Great article

beansycpn (Down) - Posts: 128 - 03/07/2015 14:52:54    1747054

Crikey cannot disagree with the article but in our case not sure if players can have that amount of games given that there are particular football weekends and particular hurling weekends on the master schedule list in Galway whereas in largely one code counties like Kerry, Mayo, Donegal etc the dominate code just does that...it dominates. The point about junior, intermediate players is noteworthy. In a general sense as pointed out previously this thread could be applied to a host of counties be it one or two coded.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 03/07/2015 15:49:00    1747103

bryanadams...

The Kildare man that does nothing but whinge about Dublin

The Kildare man with not one single post on the Kildare forum.. not one.

Almost every single post he's ever contributed is regarding Dublin in a negative manner

Shows up on every thread pretty much just taking the exact same stance as themaster

Almost identical in fact... basically repeating the same 3-4 points over and over again.. very similar to his very close friend..themaster

It's quite a coincidence how often they show up on the same threads, talking about the exact same points, ignoring the same points put back to him

Same style of slimy political like responses.. avoiding giving a direct answer to a direct question

One would think that the ultimate Dublin troll needs a little bit of back up.. so just went and invented one.

What's wrong themaster... don't want to appear like a total troll so you have to pretend to be from Kildare?

I guess you'd have a natural affiliation for Kildare... two bankrupt perpetual losers.

:)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/07/2015 16:49:34    1747139

Very good article Crikey.

It would not work for us though. Our club is a novice club as well. At bare minimum we get 32 games a year. This is divided almost equally between hurling and football though.

He mentions that Kerry clubs have won 9 out of 10 of the last Munster junior championships. This is a very impressive record. Of the clubs that won it only Finuge are dual club (a serious one at that as Lixnaw are an excellent/hurling team). Of all the clubs that Kerry teams beat in the finals only Adrigole (2006 lost to Duagh) also concentrated on football.

None the less, better to master one of them than messing around trying to do two. Kerry have the right idea.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 03/07/2015 17:18:46    1747152

When things aren't going well naturally you turn to your underage to start turning things around. Galway in this case have won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 and 2013 so naturally there is plenty of talent, Galways biggest problem has been turning good underage players into good senior players something which I'm hopeful Kevin Walsh will change. None of the last 4/5 managers have helped matters either. Mulholland should have gone after his first year in charge. This Galway team should be a lot further on in its development, Mulholland had 3 years in charge and got nowhere near to closing the gap on Mayo, his only achievement was a good 60 minutes against Cork who in all likelihood took beating us for granted. Not once in those 3 years did Galway show the level of intensity that is required to be a top team, at least we showed that against Mayo and although comfortably beaten in the end it gives us a platform to build on with this relatively young group of players.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 03/07/2015 17:30:41    1747159

Mick O'Dowd reminds me of Mulholland.Bit of an Arsene Wenger about both of them.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/07/2015 17:59:39    1747168

Jimbo bryanadams has been around a long time he is not the master.
But i love the conspiracy theories:)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2015 18:35:53    1747183

The Kerry model is the best and their impressive record proves that. If I am correct everyone in Kerry has the chance to play senior football as junior teams combine for the senior championship. So that means that all their footballers are senior players. In our own county very few players come from senior clubs which appears strange to most folk.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/07/2015 20:37:05    1747221

maybe in the case in Galway there should be a kind of regional/ district comp North South etc. It works in rugby with the four provinces. Gives a focus and structure for players. There's enough talent there to have a district league. Run over a few weeks. I know there's bound to be problems with it. But its better than county challenge games . Established county stars don't have to be included in case of burnout. It would be a good preparation for playing for the county as its a step up from club games. Just a thought.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 04/07/2015 09:27:27    1747267

jimbodub
County: Dublin
Posts: 13787

1747139 bryanadams...

The Kildare man that does nothing but whinge about Dublin

The Kildare man with not one single post on the Kildare forum.. not one.

Almost every single post he's ever contributed is regarding Dublin in a negative manner

Shows up on every thread pretty much just taking the exact same stance as themaster

Almost identical in fact... basically repeating the same 3-4 points over and over again.. very similar to his very close friend..themaster

It's quite a coincidence how often they show up on the same threads, talking about the exact same points, ignoring the same points put back to him

Same style of slimy political like responses.. avoiding giving a direct answer to a direct question

One would think that the ultimate Dublin troll needs a little bit of back up.. so just went and invented one.

What's wrong themaster... don't want to appear like a total troll so you have to pretend to be from Kildare?

I guess you'd have a natural affiliation for Kildare... two bankrupt perpetual losers.


Lol, You are so wrong on every point you made there. lol. My pointing out the truth about the lack of equality, and the advantages a certain county has, is hardly whinging, sounds like the truth hurts there bud, Oh and I have been on here years my friend and have posted on the Kildare Forum. haha

But, I really like the way you bring up bankrupt Kildare and losers, which reinforces my point exactly, the GAA is all about money, and without funding teams are wasting their time trying to compete with the financial juggernaut of Dublin GAA.

1/500 for the Leinster final, jeez, come on.

Spread the wealth around lads, spread the wealth around.

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 04/07/2015 11:59:03    1747304

I still dont think meath are as bad as some are making out i thought we were excellent if the first half last week if a team can play football like that for 35 mins there is no reason why we cant play like that for the full game,ok we are miles off the bigboys but i still think we may make a challange in the next couple of years dublin cant stay at the top forever in leinster

millhouse (Meath) - Posts: 892 - 04/07/2015 16:47:43    1747406