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Alter Ego- probably from Monaghan and having the craic.

Good luck to Cavan minors on Sunday

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 16/07/2015 16:30:02    1754470

Soma
County: UK
Posts: 1059

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Apologies seanfinn, I didn't have the bookies dictionary to hand when doing that post. I presume you have your 20 on Monaghan ready to collect 70 back from the bookies Monday morning?

Adjectives are important, apology accepted. I put my money on at the start of the campaign, at 4/1.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 16/07/2015 16:55:07    1754485

foxes_denn
County: Cavan
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Foxes denn - Still seething at the defeat in May or the way you whimpered out to Roscommon? Regardless, I think you aren't the full shilling if you believe Donegal will win by 12 points. I would be shocked if it was more than half that margin.

We will see who the full shilling is after Sunday lad. Its hard enough to win Championship games but when the Referee is against you in every match its near impossible. The Cavan phoenix will rise again next year and the roles will be reversed come 12 months.

Come back to me on Sunday or sometime next week when your over the hammering and see what you have to say then Lad.

I thought the roles were going to reverse this year?? Dry your wee eyes foxes denn. Sure its all the ref's fault that Cavan are sitting back with nothing to do but pour scorn on their betters. At least you got a good ref in London to help you overcome that powerhouse. You can pretend that oul blue and white flag you have on the lawn since 1997 is to show solidarity for Monaghan so you can bask in success, if only for a little while.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 16/07/2015 17:04:28    1754489

montheman
County: Monaghan
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Looking forward to this fascinating game on sunday.Unfortunately (hope I'm wrong) I feel Donegal might just take it. Firstly the Derry game will stand to them and helped to prevent complacency going into the final. Secondly I feel they ahve a better squad overall and it will count for the 70 minutes.
Their go to player is Paddy McBrearty and I feel he is getting better and better each year. Last year in clones he kicked some monsterous scores which tipped the tide for them. Midfield is where it will be won on sunday. Great to see Eoin Lennon back but from being at the fermanagh game I thought he just wasn't match fit. He will be tested up against neil gallagher who I rate as the best in the country. Hopefully the fitness has improved since the last day. Neil McAdam has seen alot of ball this year and needs a big game to gather the breaking ball. Even without Drew Wylie (personally I wouldn't start him if he's not 100%) I feel we have the best defence in Ireland and we can deal with the donegal forwards. Our main weakness is our half forward line. I thought against Fermanagh their half backs were getting too much space to run up the field and kick some good scores. We'd need to tighten up there. Sounds like it gonna be a wet day so I'd be deploying Kieran Hughes full forward and landing plenty of high balls into the donegal full back line. I thought Derry exposed their defensive frailties the last day.


Agree with your post montheman about the coverage in the national papers, you wouldn't know it's on if you were down the country, as usual the ultra competitive Munster championship continues to take the limelight...... Mind you the media will be all over the game next week if there is any negative issues to report if they arise in Sundays game....

ben1977 (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 16/07/2015 17:30:33    1754506

Neither of these sides will fold on Sunday, and both will be really well prepared.

The winner will be the team with that little bit extra class, where a few naturally gifted players create something extra and that for me is Donegal. They are fully fit and focused, and are now expecting to face an onslaught like no other game in 2015.

This is where Donegal thrive, and I believe they will win this by around 5/6 or 7 points in the end. Donegal perform better in games where they think they will be up against it for 70+mins. 2011, 2012 and even 2013 they seen Tyrone as their main rival in Ulster, but that changed after 2013 and they now see Monaghan as that main rival.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 16/07/2015 21:07:51    1754634

I'd be surprised if there is much in it in the end, both sides seem happier to sit on leads than build on them. By all accounts the league game between the 2 sides this year was awful viewing but hopefully both sides have a different approach Sunday.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/07/2015 21:54:23    1754664

Well it is like a Winters evening here in the Inishowen Hills' Wet and windy and going by the weather forecast it is not looking to promising for Sunday in Clones. Damn' apart from it affecting the actual Game it puts a dampener "literally" on the whole day out. Cant beat a warm Sunny day for the Ulster final in Clones' Adults and children in their Colours and Summer wear' happy faces all around.

If it is wet and windy' it will certainly make things Grease'y and mistakes could well happen and it could result in something similar to the league game in Letterkenny' which I hope it doesnt.

What do Donegal fans really think of Paddy McBrearty's Role on the age of the Square..? I get the whole rotation thing and no doubt MM will be hanging about in there at some stage of the game. For me' i would rather have Paddy floating about Somewhere between the half forward and full forward line. He has the power and speed to turn his marker and Score from Distance. He is pretty Stocky and not overally tall' and i would rather MM with his Height and also strength spend more time in that postition. No doubt whoever is in there will be double marked and although Paddy got a goal against Armagh' I think Murphy would do much better and Also Paddy would do more damage further out the field.

I am not one for playing the managers role as I doubt any of the Mangers gives a hoot what posters on a forum think' but in my opinion Paddy is wasted up there on his Todd.I hope he proves me wrong and bags a goal or two.

I think Monaghan will be well up for this game and there will not be much in it at the end. Still think it could go either way ' but hopefully we will have that little bit extra to get us over the line. I think the weather will play a big part on Sunday and hopefully it will come good for the Game.

InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 17/07/2015 18:07:13    1755060

InishowenMan
County: Donegal
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I think McBrearty is hard to handle in the square, Derry certainly struggled with him until he got Injured. He has a superb combination of speed and strength, and I have seen quite a few top teams struggle to cope his abilities as past year.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 17/07/2015 20:33:19    1755111

Beggan
D Mone
V Corry
R Wylie
C Walshe
F Kelly
K O'Connell
Mc Adam
D Hughes
O Duffy
S Gollogly
S Carey
D Malone
C McManus
K Hughes

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 17/07/2015 20:59:38    1755121

I have no doubt about that GaryMc82' and I agree. 6 foot and a Bulked up 13 stone 'with pace and power is going to give any "Centre back" a hard time and he seems to be enjoying his New role. However I still think he would be better deployed further out the field.

If we keep lobbing balls into him' he no doubt will Make use of some of them. However with the lad in probably the best shape of his career and with the power and pace he possesses plus the fact he has a very strong and accurate left peg in his arsenal 'In My OP he would tally up more scores receiving ball around the 45 and beating his marker and slotting over.Think of the mighty point he scored from the left wing in last yrs AI Semi' thats what Im getting at.

At the same time think of MM with a slight height advantage and the Goal early in the 2012 final. I Know the way we Work and I know its not all as simple as that'however Giving Paddys abilities I would like to see him run at defenders rather than mooching about the Box.

Just something ive been thinking about and as long as he is fit and ready to go and stays injury free throughout the game' Il be happy enough.

InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 17/07/2015 21:59:25    1755148

from the hogan stand homepage

" Drew Wylie has been added to the substitutes list despite suffering a cruciate ligament injury a month ago."


really ? this sounds remarkable. what kind of a cruciate ligament injury was it. I didn't think he injured his cruciate.

this would be remarkable if true.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 18/07/2015 08:12:39    1755152

The word here in Donegal is that Drew Wylie will start & that the injury wasn't as serious as first thought.

If true this is a massive boost for Monaghan as he is one of the best defenders in the game.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 18/07/2015 09:10:22    1755160

I really hope dgal dont overuse this tactic of dropping long 60 yard balls into a decent full back line - it's a 70/30 ball in favour of defense evry time which just leads to constant turnover. This used to be a tactic reserved for when teams had run out of attacking options or desperately needed a last gasp goal to save defeat, now it seems to be becoming our main attacking option. How many times does it actualy work? Ok twice against armagh but not at al against tyrone or derry. Id rather see the maintain possession at all costs & only shoot whn there's a better than reasonable chance of success approch - we were leathal doing this in 2012. Long ball handful of times to vary ok but not constant.

2ndcumin (Donegal) - Posts: 22 - 18/07/2015 09:21:45    1755162

Looking forward to the game. I don't envisage a footballing feast but an intriguing battle of chess. I concur that the national media attention as being shocking. Not only in the papers but also on the airwaves. The Munster final has been done to death, you would hardly know there was the matter of an Ulster and Connaught final this weekend. As already pointed out though if there are any opportunities to print or talk about any negativity from the game that will be done to death also. The coverage of sledging bordered on ridiculous.

Back to the game it is a tough one to call but I think Donegal will edge it but not with any monetary confidence. I think Monaghan have targeted this game all along and have prepared accordingly. They are a mirror image of Donegal from last year to a degree. Beaten holders last year who had injuries to important players going into the final. The difference is that Donegal were more impressive in their victories last year compared to Monaghan this year. Cavan really let them off the hook and should have at least forced a reply. Fermanagh were well in the game till the harsh red card. Donegal last year accounted for both Derry and Antrim with more ruthless efficiency. Yes it was tight in Derry for the first half but as the game went on they found their confidence and really strangled the life out of Derry.

It has been pointed out that Monaghan generally do well against Donegal. I do feel that Donegal were much the better side in last years final. An uncharacteristic slip from Frank McGlynn gifted Monaghan a goal which flattered the final scoreline imo. However as already pointed out Monaghan were unlucky with injuries last year so I expect a much closer game but I do feel they have a fair gap to close. Donegal's form this year has generally being good. Impressive in both their opening games followed by a frustrating performance at times against Derry. That game however was a great test in terms of this game. It dampened the media enthusiasm taking away some of the attention. Plus it gave Donegal experience of playing against an ultra defensive set up like they will face tomorrow. I feel Donegal just have more scoring options. If McManus is kept quiet it takes away the majority of attacking threat Monaghan have whereas Donegal have scoring threats from numerous sources even if Murphy is kept quiet. I do however think that Monaghan are no 5/2 shots. The odds should be closer.

On another note is the game an actual sell out? Or will there be tickets available in Clones if needed? Reported otherwise but also seeing alot of tickets have been returned to clubs. Considering going to the game but I won't be travelling from either Donegal or Monaghan. Possibly be looking for a student terrace ticket or the cheaper adult terrace ticket. For those definitely going enjoy the game. Also intrigued to see how the Derry minors get one following their great win over the Donegal minors. If it was not a one off they should win but hope they do so without replying on alot of the cynical nonsense that marred the semi final win.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 18/07/2015 10:38:24    1755172

I said this at the time but no one in Monaghan actually said that Drew Wylie done his cruciate.

The local paper said it was a knee injury and were awaiting scan results and O ROurke said that it was knee injury and that he would miss the semi final and probably the final if Monaghan got to it. The "Cruciate Ligament" injury first turned up in the national papers and then on this site with no confirmation from Monaghan. Wylie even walked off the pitch the night of the injury and also was togged out at the Fermanagh match and was kicking balls out from behind the goals before the match.

There were no mind games there just misinformed media stories.

One point that I think people missed is that Chris McGuinness hasn't been named in the 26 panel. He would have been a good option to have for us.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 366 - 18/07/2015 11:04:09    1755177

Mcguinness is a big loss. He is one of our go to men when 2 or 3 lads are hanging out of McManus not to mention one of our main goal poachers. No real scoring options on the bench to bring on now. Less confident now have to say.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1803 - 18/07/2015 12:31:31    1755200

McGuinness will be a late addition to the bench I'd imagine.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 18/07/2015 13:24:39    1755218

I don't think you're allowed to change anyone from the 26 announced now, so McGuinness is definitely out.

SomeLad (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 18/07/2015 20:15:50    1755402

Have to agree, Chris Mcguinness missing is a big loss. Read the panel listing this morning and it jumped off the page how little scoring threat there is on the bench.
Monaghan need a goal or 2, hard to see where it's coming from now.
Step up owen Duffy, you need to play a blinder

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 18/07/2015 20:46:59    1755429

Monaghan by a point..........Gonna be epic

Come on the FARNEY.

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 19/07/2015 10:19:13    1755536