Kiwiq

Thats the way it should be,if you are truly interested in the game and passionate about your county,you will got to games regardless of how good your county is.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/06/2015 20:59:08    1743293

@Cuederocket. I think the game will be closer than the general thinking around it suggests it will be. But a lot depends on Kildare and how they approach it. Ryan has never beaten Dublin but he has got close on a few occasions. The KIldare attack and midfield will decide how this game goes. I generally don't look at the opposition and take the opinion they will capitulate by default and thats exactly what a 20 plus prediction is imo. Kildare are a good team with good players and to lose by 20 points takes a breakdown of their gameplan of huge proportions. Of course its possible, its happened before but i would argue Dublin winning by 5-7 points is more likely than Dublin winning by 20. Bookies may disagree but the odds re Dublin are always skewed with the weight of Dubs backing their own.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 26/06/2015 21:47:29    1743310

Cutto. I guess that was me that was aimed at?
No i do not live in Meath and haven't for many years, i have lived in , Kilkenny, and Westmeath as well as navan in the past 30 odd years.
I travel a very long distance to see matches in even navan. Your right i cant prove on a forum that i go to every match, however even mu biggest detractors on this forum could vouch for my insight into games , let them agree or disagree.
Furthermore unlike many of your county men who i would regard as true supporters like dh and lillywhite1 they will be in attendance rather than watching as you refer to it the sport of kings? Bit more like the sport of gangsters. Ever hear of stop jockey?
Best wishes on Sunday don't loose the mortgage, and i hope Kildare win, and forever more you will wish that you had seen your team win rather than watch your horse finish last.
Kildare Meath or any county can do without support like yours .

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/06/2015 21:52:37    1743314

I am embarrassed by the lack of support for the team by some of my fellow county men , F**k sake lads you can't call yourselves supporters and then run and hide at the first sign of trouble, you are doing yourselves, the team or the genuine Kildare supporters a real disservice. I will be there to support the lads as always and I will be going expecting a Kildare performance and a closer game than what this sorry ass thread would have you believe. I believe Kildare are the 2nd best team in leinster and will give the Dubs a real game, Naming the same team and holding the likes of Tommy Moolick and Niall Kelly in reserve (two players I believe would make the Dubkin 15) shows a real sign of confidence by the management, Fergal Conway out through injury is a blow and weakens the squad somewhat, but Come on Kildare supporters, what are you afraid of ffs, Its a summer championship game in Croker against the near neighbours and we have nothing to lose, At least I know that the squad have more character and fighting spirit than some supporters on here ..embarrassing.

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 27/06/2015 11:59:02    1743372

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I am embarrassed by the lack of support for the team by some of my fellow county men , F**k sake lads you can't call yourselves supporters and then run and hide at the first sign of trouble, you are doing yourselves, the team or the genuine Kildare supporters a real disservice. I will be there to support the lads as always and I will be going expecting a Kildare performance and a closer game than what this sorry ass thread would have you believe. I believe Kildare are the 2nd best team in leinster and will give the Dubs a real game, Naming the same team and holding the likes of Tommy Moolick and Niall Kelly in reserve (two players I believe would make the Dubkin 15) shows a real sign of confidence by the management, Fergal Conway out through injury is a blow and weakens the squad somewhat, but Come on Kildare supporters, what are you afraid of ffs, Its a summer championship game in Croker against the near neighbours and we have nothing to lose, At least I know that the squad have more character and fighting spirit than some supporters on here ..embarrassing.

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Its the bad days that make the good days all the sweeter. Dublin wont be at this level forever and its up to Kildare and Meath to be ready to pounce when they do eventually dip.

Kiwiq (Kildare) - Posts: 38 - 27/06/2015 13:26:44    1743393

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but Come on Kildare supporters, what are you afraid of ffs, Its a summer championship game in Croker against the near neighbours and we have nothing to lose, At least I know that the squad have more character and fighting spirit than some supporters on here ..embarrassing.

Spot on.

For all the talk there's been about how good we are as supporters over the last few years, we have some of the most fickle fans out there.

Some people are fed up of losing? F**k off. I wonder what they make of the last 80 odd years, or the couple of seasons between Micko and McGeeney.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 27/06/2015 13:42:39    1743396

Best off luck to both kildare teams tomorrow i'm away in scotland but i'll be in the pub with the white jersey on i'll were it with pride no matter the result up the lilies.

cracker95 (Kildare) - Posts: 46 - 27/06/2015 14:20:18    1743399

north kildare-- you believe kildare are the second best team in leinster--haven't meath proved that they are by comfortably beating us twice in our last 2 championship meetings? And Moolick and Kelly would make the dublin team, you gotta be kidding me!!

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 27/06/2015 15:18:03    1743412

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1743372 I am embarrassed by the lack of support for the team by some of my fellow county men , F**k sake lads you can't call yourselves supporters and then run and hide at the first sign of trouble, you are doing yourselves, the team or the genuine Kildare supporters a real disservice. I will be there to support the lads as always and I will be going expecting a Kildare performance and a closer game than what this sorry ass thread would have you believe. I believe Kildare are the 2nd best team in leinster and will give the Dubs a real game, Naming the same team and holding the likes of Tommy Moolick and Niall Kelly in reserve (two players I believe would make the Dubkin 15) shows a real sign of confidence by the management, Fergal Conway out through injury is a blow and weakens the squad somewhat, but Come on Kildare supporters, what are you afraid of ffs, Its a summer championship game in Croker against the near neighbours and we have nothing to lose, At least I know that the squad have more character and fighting spirit than some supporters on here ..embarrassing.

In fairness its not the first sign of trouble is it? We have been in freefall for 2 years now and are a Div 3 side.
What are Kildare supporters afraid of? A record humiliating defeat I guess. Two years ago they beat us by 16 which really should have been 26 only for their poor finishing. Back then we were coming in of a Div 1 semi final and this year of a relegation to div 3.
It's only natural that supporters will lose faith and not continue to travel as much. I don't think they should be castigated for that. Any one that travels to see their team to play is a supporter in my eyes.
What I would like to see happen is some scheme to reward people who attend most matches throughout the year. That way when fortunes change those supporters get priority for tickets for the big matches and there cant be any accusations of jumping on the bandwagon.
But please less of this "n I'm a better supporter than you"
ps. I don't attend all matches but I am going tomorrow but am genuinely fearing a rout. We have lost to many of our best players of the McGeeney team to really challenge at the moment.

murof (Kildare) - Posts: 480 - 27/06/2015 16:56:48    1743437

Yes I do, I know recent results suggest otherwise and I do think Meath are developing into a decent side and capable of progressing further, but I think we would take them this year, Meath got a run on us at the start of the game last year, but we came storming back 2nd half and if Moolick had put the ball under the bar rather than over I think we would have taken them, We went on to hammer Down out the gate in Newry and it took Monaghan extra time to eventually knock us out last year. I am expecting a lot from this Kildare team over the next few years, Yes I definitely think Moolick is better than Dublins midfield options and maybe its harder to make a case for Kelly with that Dublin forward line but yes he would be there or there abouts imo

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 27/06/2015 17:11:41    1743443

Long time since I posted on HS, got fed up with some of the trolls....but a few 'prawn sandwich' Lilies on here have prompted this. You follow your county because its where you're from, its your home, its where your parish is,its where you played, or supported, your club. You follow your county because regardless of the opposition you get a tingle in your spine, a lurch of the stomach when your team run out on to the field. You roar and shout your support because you're passionate about your county, you dream, hope and pray that this is your year. But if its not you come back next year full of the same pride, support and sense of belonging to this large collection that is your county and team. Your love for your county is not because of its success, its because of place, connection and something that few other codes at the top level have, direct connection between place, players and fans. If you want to pick success follow Chelsea, Barca, whoever......but don't come on here with the degrading and insulting comments and attitudes towards a team of amateur young men who put their lives on hold for this. Stick to sitting in the boozer with your Diadora polyester jersey shouting for the multi-nations that is premiership. Criticize yes, in a constructive manner, give out when deserved by all means but a few (and as with most social media platforms its only the few that make a lot of waves) on here are a disgrace....or else wums. Like RD I can count on one hand the number of games I've missed, but many can't get to go all games but if you can, go, support them they deserve it. One so called Lily seems to be more obsessed with winding up the Dub fans on here than adding to the conversation about the match, that says it all for me. Ignore the doom and gloom merchants, there will be 1000s of true Lilies there tomorrow, and best of luck to them. Cill Dara abú

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 27/06/2015 17:19:48    1743447

that's fair enough murof, I'm not claiming to be a better supporter than anyone else, but surely Kildare supporters should turn out for championship games??? afraid of a hiding? no one enjoys that, so what, don't go?? concede before a ball is thrown in?? that's not a great level of support is it? Its a tough enough assignment for the lads without running out to 30,000 dub supporters and maybe only 3000 fans in white, They are just coming off scoring their highest ever leinster championship score and their must be a level of optimism within the camp anyway, Its not much to ask for the supporters to come out and get behind them,

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 27/06/2015 17:22:08    1743449

I actually respect the supporters that stay at home more than us sheep the still go. Why fund such a corrupt system? Fact is the majority of money the gaa makes for underage investment goes to Dublin. The less money they make the more they will see a need to invest heavily in leinster counties outside of dunlin .

They prioritised Dublin because they seen how some of their matches in leinster against the likes of meath or Kildare had the potential to pull 70-80k but what the fools didn't realise is that was because meath and Kildare were competitive . If they had any sense they'd invest 90% of money for leinster outside of Dublin and make the playing field super competitive .

You'd have massive crowds still, great excitement and a championship people actually care for.

Pre massive investment you had a competitive championship now it looks like Dublin will win at least 18/20 from 2005 on. How exciting.

End of rant!

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 27/06/2015 17:41:16    1743463

Jack_Goff

If you think money will make your players as good as Dublin's you are delusional. Yourselves and Kildare have big populations now, no excuse for not having a team that can compete within the near future. Do you think it's money that gives our lads the attitude and determination that they now have? No, that is good management coupled with natural ability.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 27/06/2015 18:00:23    1743467

Jack Goff
A sorry excuse. Whinge,whine,moan. It's pathetic reading some of the crap on this thread. Lucky some of young men going out to represent their counties this weekend have more backbone.
John O Leary put it perfectly in the Indo yesterday. It's 15 v 15 out there. Donegal handed us our asses on a plate last August. Smaller population, one of the counties worst effected by emigration, huge distances to travel, players training and supporters. Don't give a damn where they have to play us.Your a disgrace, and some of the Kildare moaners as well.
Aido

Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 27/06/2015 18:28:20    1743473

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Jack_Goff

If you think money will make your players as good as Dublin's you are delusional. Yourselves and Kildare have big populations now, no excuse for not having a team that can compete within the near future. Do you think it's money that gives our lads the attitude and determination that they now have? No, that is good management coupled with natural ability.

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Well said RD. You've got to love whingers about money who don't quote figures. Plenty of history in Meath, good clubs, great history. Excuse for poor performances at county level....blame it on money given to Dublin. Heaven forbid that you might actually ask some hard questions of your county board. Blame somebody else instead. It's easier.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/06/2015 20:15:13    1743513

Wexford lads don't moan so much, great win for them tonight!
If Kildare win tomorrow, will that make it all better lads?

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 27/06/2015 20:38:50    1743527

Well done Longford minors. Great result. I'm sure someone on here will explain to me how this is Dublins fault.

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Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 27/06/2015 20:59:37    1743542

Let me explain i don't blame Meath woes on Dublin, i do think there should be a more evenly distribution of funds, but that is more of a structuring thing than anything else and would come under the remit of Leinster council.
Meath faults are during the good times successive county boards failed to implement even the most basic structure to aid underage development, rather than tapping into the euphoria of the boylan years they took it for granted, now let me say Sean took some good players and made them great, but there was never a plan for post Sean by cb, this is the problem, not the funding dubs get, btw one of the top 5 sponsorship deals in gaa is in Meath , so while it pales into insignificance against aig we are doing better than most.
But i will be cheering on the lillys tomorrow as i think Leinster needs dubs to be beat either tomorrow or the next day, it would give the other counties a huge boost.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2015 21:30:59    1743573

Come on Kildare lets be having you.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 28/06/2015 16:00:31    1743827