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I Hear ya Seany but false modesty is a real cluchie thing... don't like it
It's just lying... wrapped up in BS
But sometimes you have to lower yourself to fit in I guess

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TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 04/06/2015 17:03:25    1732493

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1732481 jimbodub

They just don't have the panel to be losing lads who'd normally be automatic starters and that's far from ideal prep with lads missing game time in the run up to a possible final with Dublin

I agree with you about trying the same thing over and over again... but more to do with tactics... the tactics they've been deploying against us... going man to man.... now that's insanity...

I agree with a lot of what you've said and we certainly don't have the panel to sustain many injuries but I suppose plenty of teams could claim that as well, however I have to give credit to Dublin, you's have an incredible squad of players. This Dublin team has the potential to be the best football team of all time (not there yet) but their overall squad is surely already up there with the best of all time.

Just to take you up on the man for man thing, you may have a point and I wouldn't care if we put 14 men behind the ball if it meant winning a Leinster final against Dublin but I don't know if we'd be much good at that, I've never seen us do it and I don't know if you can just flick a switch and turn it on.Our most balanced style was in 2013 and it got us the closest (although the scoreboard doesn't reflect that) so if we get a chance again I'd like to see us relatively injury free and I don't care what way we set up once there's a definite plan A and plan B, not just 'oh **** plan A isn't working, leg it'.

In league game against Roscommon this year ye played with a blanket defence that's only game I seen ye play but ye had 12 men behind ball at all times that game.maybe MOR was using this tactics with eye on the dubs? did ye use those tactic in any other league game??

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 04/06/2015 17:04:32    1732494

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1732493 jimbodub
I Hear ya Seany but false modesty is a real cluchie thing... don't like it
It's just lying... wrapped up in BS
But sometimes you have to lower yourself to fit in I guess
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Ah thanks man

I'm alright I guess

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 04/06/2015 17:42:47    1732506

Pingcity

In league game against Roscommon this year ye played with a blanket defence that's only game I seen ye play but ye had 12 men behind ball at all times that game.maybe MOR was using this tactics with eye on the dubs? did ye use those tactic in any other league game??

I can only take your word for I didn't make the away games in the league this year but I was at all the O'Bryne cup games and home league games and we weren't using a blanket defense so if he's planning for it against Dublin it's gonna have to be switched on without significant practice.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/06/2015 17:43:27    1732507

Pingcity that is blatantly untrue. The only way Meath had 14 behind the ball was either goal kick or cause rossies had funnelled all there players back. Htaem i was at all the games, when you are playing ultra defensive teams like Roscommon and Cavan you cant help but to have your own guys appearing on there own with no opposition around them , it just happens . We will once again go man for man of that i have no doubts, we just have to take our chances i mean speaking of the rossies we kicked 20 wides and gifted a goal and still managed to only get beat by 2 , something similar against Laois both these hari-kari games cost us certain promotion, but what's done is done. Just don't make same mistakes again, i think lenehane is back in panel and that will help with more accurate scoring, just need to make sure Newman has his free scoring boots on and tormey, biggy, e Wallace, bray will get what's needed from play.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/06/2015 18:15:21    1732523

Bahaha, in stitches here, anyway, back to Meath being lucky/unlucky...
If they meet us it won't come down to luck, just a hiding :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 04/06/2015 18:29:39    1732530

Indeed you are right reald. For dubs:)
Lets hope you play the dodgy keeper.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/06/2015 18:48:29    1732535

Hoped we would have had a full panel to pick from this year to see if we had progressed any, both on and off the pitch. As first post said its lucky for us we are on the weaker side of the draw. No excuses if we don't beat Wicklow (they have lost many of their best players over last year)But after that we need all injured lads back. If as expected Westmeath progress they will be well up for a crack off Meath. Hopefully there are a few lads who will see injuries as their chance to stake a claim to the jersey

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 04/06/2015 19:21:04    1732543

Told you before RD, you did us a massive favour that day, haven't looked back since :)

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 04/06/2015 19:32:18    1732546

I can confirm pingcity is correct, Meath played defensive safety first football against us and maybe they had one eye on the dubs with those tactics? we had 30 scoring opportunities in that game most of our missed efforts was when we were forced to shoot from distance or from difficult angles. The Meath wide count was 10 not 20 we actually created more scoring chances in that game.

Us ultra defensive ha, one look what we conceded during the 8 league games will prove that is blatantly untrue.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 04/06/2015 21:00:02    1732588

realdub

maybe ye did us a ,massive favour last year too :P

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/06/2015 21:09:54    1732593

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1732370 wait until brendtheredhand gets his eyes on this
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brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 05/06/2015 08:51:03    1732620

Ziggy I like the way your thinking but if I were you I wouldn't hold my breath :)

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 05/06/2015 11:30:14    1732693

In a situation where one team is playing a defensive system and the other is playing man for man, logically this would result in the majority of the players in one half of the pitch (the team that are playing the defensive system). While Meath may be one of the few team not playing a defensive system when required, yet, they seemed to be holding ground more in the league (I only saw them 3 times though) and not going man for man up the field, which makes perfect sense of course. Dublin did the something similar against Donegal in 2011.
Going man for man only helps the team playing the defensive system and is an extremely naive thing to do, but, it looks as if you are playing a defensive system. Such is the nature of the game at the moment.
Anyway If Meath are to beat Dublin they need to at least play a sweeper in front of the full back line as Dublin have 15 scoring players on the pitch at any given time, and giving them the opportunity to create space in the scoring zone is naive.

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 05/06/2015 12:41:39    1732754

Mguinceann abu id pretty much agree with that assessment

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/06/2015 12:47:53    1732758

In the greater scheme of things, it's irrelevant whether Meath have injuries or not. They are not contenders.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 05/06/2015 13:11:25    1732774

i just dont see the point in keep going to the well with the same panel if it aint working
dublin took a hiding in gilroys first year at the all ireland quarter final stage
and he knew he had to find new players
mental baggage causes huge problems
and whose to say some of them meath players dont believe they can beat dublin after the last three years
I think games against wicklow and probably westmeath
will bring new guys on and breed confidence
perfect scenario for meath if they get through to a leinster final

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2015 15:33:34    1732896

Lots of ifs and buts there Hill... based on very little

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 05/06/2015 15:38:07    1732900

Again you're using the Dublin example...

Not sure you can apply that logic to the current Meath setup

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 05/06/2015 15:41:47    1732902

Jimbo is right. The Dublin B team would give meath a go and probably win. When your lads get injured you always discover new talent which was ready to break through.

Regarding the thread, meath are not lucky at all. This draw has the potential worst case scenario . That is we hammer wicklow , beat wexford / westmeath well and get hammered by the dubs .

I'd rather we played Dublin in round 1 and go into the qualifiers early and under the radar radar.

A fourth hammering in a row to Dublin will do meath more harm than good . Were better off letting the best of westmeath , wicklow or wexford taking a 30 point trimming instead .And plus that will give me more ammo for my thread :)

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 05/06/2015 16:07:00    1732919