Wouldn't the best solution be to ban Dublin from the GAA.......we seem to be the reason for all evil.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 01/06/2015 19:31:52    1731107

Was due around now alright. So predictable its boring but you only need to give the usual suspects a sniff of it and they'll be on with the usual tripe. Split a county in three,god help us,a while ago it was two,what next, half a dozen teams.
Would it not be equally daft to spilt sides like Kerry or Kilkenny.Of course ,its easier to poke Dublin and get all smug again when they loose a game rather than compliment their current crop of players and get working on your own problems.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 01/06/2015 19:50:54    1731113

Joxer thanks for the reply again.

It's easy for you to say get your house in order . It's like Dublin hurling. All the good will in the world was no use until the millions came pouring in.

Yes Dublin have a massive population . But the problem is this. If Dublin which is a region is to remain as a single county, you can't justify putting them in the same province as the leinster county's every year if their already massive advantages are going to be piled on with more .

And the money is not distributed fairly . Why should the GAA fund 100 Dublin coaches but only 3 in Meath ? Your population is not 30 times bigger than meath . We have a lot of areas with big underage populations but no investment from the GAA .

It's a total farce and only in ireland would you have it .

Now this can't be changed , but my solution would fix most problems .And that is to give about 6 counties who currently have zero chance of winning anything being in with a shout .

And if meath really were to catch up with dubs and replace their domination I'd say move them around too. It's not about meath and I've become so dissilusioned with the whole thing that I'm no longer emotionally attached to my county in the championship .

It made be depressed so I just got away like most meath fans of old and as seen by other counties dwindling attendances we're not alone .

I get my kicks out of supporting a county from Leinster and munster in the hurling .

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 01/06/2015 21:40:13    1731166

What annoys me is the distortion of the truth. Just heard a re run of the Newstalk interview with John horan from Leinster council. Outrageous. What keeps happening is quoting attendances from Dublin games and highlighting that other grounds couldn't cope. But the lie is in the fact that these Dublin games are always double headers. So 41000 were at laois Dublin last year? ? No! Cause kildare v Louth made up ten thousand of that. Then he quoted being able to offer family and juvenile rates in croke park. Again the lie is in ignoring the extra ten euro kildare and Louth supporters paid for a double header when they probably had no interest in staying for the second game. Dublin are awesome. But the Leinster council make me so angry

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 01/06/2015 21:42:31    1731168

Malone magic you are not alone my friend. It's hard growing up and supporting a team in such an unfair sporting world. You can see why so many are being won over by the soccer and the rugby. And he ignored the fact half the attendance was gone by half time in the football. Obviously the hurling was the real puller. Attendances will continue to dwindle every year too.

Another example is the Galway hurlers not being allowed get a home match or the u18 & u21 teams barred from playing in leinster despite trying to enter.

Our association has so much potential but it's run by the flint stones.

Could you imagine arsenal having to play their matches in Wembley because every match supporters miss out .

At least ulster have it right . Sell outs are not automatically moved to clones.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 01/06/2015 21:59:34    1731181

link

I mean, things appear to be moving from the sublime to the ridiculous. Why don't they just out Dublin straight into the AI semi final and be done with it, meanwhile, back in Ulster........

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 02/06/2015 08:05:32    1731186

I can understand people's frustrations especially smaller counties and I'd be happy for us to do anything to make it abit more of a level playing field but splitting Dublin up is not an option. Like its never going to happen so no point in even suggesting it.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/06/2015 09:51:04    1731214

That didn't take long!

Dirty Dubs

Success, down with that sort of thing...careful now!

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 02/06/2015 10:17:03    1731236

I have no real interest in who wins the football All Ireland so this is a purely neutral view.

After watching the match on Sunday I am saddened to see the reaction towards Dublin from a lot of posters here and just people in general. The majority of the hysteria is about how Dublin are ruining the game, destroying the Leinster championship etc etc blah blah blah.

Why can we not just praise them for their outstanding display at the weekend? Some of their point scoring was superb. Whether they were playing Longford seniors or u14s, the ball still has to be put over the bar and they did that with magnificent accuracy.

A few weeks ago Barcelona won 8-0. There was no cry for them to be thrown out of La Liga. Instead, they were lauded for their attacking play and creativity. Their front 3 of Messi, Suarez and Neymar were put on a pedestal as all that was good about soccer.

Why can we not do the same? My own opinion is that there is a deep down jealousy of Dublin from a lot of football people and instead of praising them, their jealousy and bitterness comes out in negativity.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 02/06/2015 10:17:11    1731237

Mike03. Nonsense. Read my post. I said Dublin are awesome. This isn't there problem. It's the way the gaa hierarchy treat the likes of longford that's the problem

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 02/06/2015 10:37:16    1731247

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What annoys me is the distortion of the truth. Just heard a re run of the Newstalk interview with John horan from Leinster council. Outrageous. What keeps happening is quoting attendances from Dublin games and highlighting that other grounds couldn't cope. But the lie is in the fact that these Dublin games are always double headers. So 41000 were at laois Dublin last year? ? No! Cause kildare v Louth made up ten thousand of that. Then he quoted being able to offer family and juvenile rates in croke park. Again the lie is in ignoring the extra ten euro kildare and Louth supporters paid for a double header when they probably had no interest in staying for the second game. Dublin are awesome. But the Leinster council make me so angry

not true at all
41000 were at the game and in no way kildare and louth made anywhere near 10 thousand
there was 5 thousand max and out of that 5 thousand louth heavily outnumbered kildare
any kildare or louth supporter at the games that day will tell you that.
there was 33,500 on sunday and there was no more than 1 thousand from galway and longford combined.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/06/2015 10:58:28    1731262

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Malone magic you are not alone my friend. It's hard growing up and supporting a team in such an unfair sporting world. You can see why so many are being won over by the soccer and the rugby. And he ignored the fact half the attendance was gone by half time in the football. Obviously the hurling was the real puller. Attendances will continue to dwindle every year too.
Another example is the Galway hurlers not being allowed get a home match or the u18 & u21 teams barred from playing in leinster despite trying to enter.
Our association has so much potential but it's run by the flint stones.
Could you imagine arsenal having to play their matches in Wembley because every match supporters miss out .
At least ulster have it right . Sell outs are not automatically moved to clones.

if the hurling was the real crowd puller then why was there only 10-15 thousand in the ground for the start of that game?
people left towards the end of football not half time because the match was long over as a contest thats why.
the 33500 were all in place for the start of the football game.
you know well the ticketing schemes are the reason that these games are played in croker and you keep ignoring it

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/06/2015 11:03:20    1731264

exactly mike03 you hit the nail on the head
its was brilliant when manchester utd or barcelona wee doing this to teams
because they all supported them but god forbid dublin gaa play good football and win games like that
I dont see too many saying poor waterford took a hiding off tipp by nearly same scoreline
or kildare in the hurling on saturday who got beaten by kerry by 36 points and that was supposed to be
a b championship that levels things out we keep hearing

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/06/2015 11:06:27    1731266

I cant understand the way some counties round on the Dubs, just because they have upped their game so much. Population was never an issue up to 2011 before they won their first all ireland in a long time. Supporters from other counties were happy to say that they haddnt the bottle when they were eventually beaten and take some sort of warped satisfaction out of their exit from the championship, perhaps to compensate for their own counties lack of success. Whatever the reason is for this, the shoe is now on the other foot and it seems that certain counties cant handle it.

Dublin are raising the bar for other counties to chase. That is the evolution of the species. I would like to think that there will be a team that will give them a game in the all ireland this year, as I am sure this will happen at the semi final stage and thereafter. I agree that Dublin could go on the road for round 1 of the championship, and that division 3 and 4 teams should not have to compete with them unless they really want to. But most of them do really want to so what can you do??

But talk of splitting dublin in 2 or 3 stinks of sour grapes. There was no issue with the dubs population when they were not the force they are now. They win 2 all irelands in 4 years and suddenly they are a bane on the championship. I dont understand it.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 02/06/2015 11:46:51    1731297

Hill16no1man you really are making things up. 1000 at a kildare game? ? They have unreal support. Kildare would always have a few thousand at every league game even

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 02/06/2015 12:01:06    1731305

This nonsense again. Dublin are the benchmark for all teams in Leinster at this time and instead of whinging about it other teams including ourselves in Meath should be working twice as hard to catch up. There has always been mismatches in the province and yes I firmly believe that the provincials should be overhauled but as stated previously it's a bit like the turkeys voting for xmas. Not so sure about Kildare as they appear to have regressed under Jason Ryan but I know Meath are working really hard to to bridge the gap. I would expect them to get a little closer this year and at least give them a game of it should they meet in a Leinster Final. The biggest problem here is if the Dubs do not get a serious test in Leinster then they are disadvantaged going into AI QF's. Also I cannot understand posters complaining about Dublin getting to play all their games at HQ. This is a Leinster Council decision voted for by the counties themselves. That said I think there would be no objection from any Dublin player/supporter if they were asked to play 1st round games away from home. The result would be the same but at least they would bring some colour and much needed custom to provincial towns like Longford.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 02/06/2015 12:16:57    1731319

AS i say on every one of the 100's of these "Split/Move Dublin" threads that are set up like this...........I want to Beat Dublin in Croke park and Not Fingal, South Dublin or Dublin City. All this talk is a joke. Its up to the other counties to Catch up on Dublin and not up to Dublin to Split or move to a different championship just so Meath, Kildare or Westmeath can win a MEANINGLESS Leinster title without Dublin involved beacause thats what it would be. Every time Meath Play Dublin i am Fearful but also Deep down have that little niggle that maybe just maybe we could beat them. If we were playing 1/3 of Dublin then that HOPE or Niggle will mean nothing.

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 02/06/2015 13:25:04    1731366

No point saying that the other will catch up. The table below shows how the others have been falling behind as the years go on and it will only get worse.

Leinster championship record
1 Dublin 53 wins
2 Meath 21 wins 1 win in 14 years
3 Kildare 13 wins 2 wins in 59 years
4 Offaly 10 wins 1 win in 33 years
4 Wexford 10 wins 1 win in 90 years, 0 for 60 years
6 Louth 8 wins 0 win for 58 years (should have been 1)
7 Laois 6 wins 1 win in 69 years
8 Kilkenny 3 wins
9 Carlow 1 win
9 Longford 1 win
9 Westmeath 1 win
12 Wicklow 0 wins

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 02/06/2015 14:15:33    1731404

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Three fair posts that cover just about everything.
I live in Kildare and have some very good friends from there. Guys who coach down there and would know what they're talking about. Kildare and Meath both have the population base and should be well able to put it up to Dublin in Leinster. Instead of looking over the neighbours hedge and cribbing about population, finance etc. they should be looking at their own setup. Dublin had all these advantages before 2011 and the weren't a problem then. They were used to rub our noses in it. The IC system has always been unfair. Getting Dublin to play outside Croke Park, no issue with that but where do the players from other counties want to play. Where do they want to beat the Jacks?
What the Meath and Kildare supporters need to ask themselves, what have Donegal, Mayo, Cork, Kerry, Tyrone, Monaghan got that we haven't.
A69

Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 02/06/2015 14:19:49    1731412

1,000 between galway and longford is really stretching the truth..id say it was a bit more than that

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 02/06/2015 14:24:14    1731416