The hurling championship is making decent revenue as it is. All counties have a responsibility to develop both codes. It's completely understandable that most counties might be focussed on one code more than another. Most clubs are like that as well. The important thing is to offer all players a choice. In many areas without a club, that will require a district team getting players from a number of clubs.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 30/05/2015 20:58:50    1730360

Media isn't biased. Hurling isn't third biggest in Ulster. There is no hurling or very very little in many counties in Ulster.
30/05/2015 17:27:06 Bain
Ormond, Go to a Burt/Setanta game and see how little people care for hurling in Donegal. And you can back up how no one plays hurling here??? Show us some figures. Some connection with a completely biased IRFU official????
Don't tell me what's more popular here. I've played both and there is more hurling teams in Donegal than rugby clubs. And even the most ardent hurling fan wouldn't claim hurling is popular here. As usual outside of media coverage there is little talk of rugby. People here have little to no connection to rugby. This, the county of Dave Gallagher!!!!!!!2 years ago I was in a bar after a Donegal league soccer match in ramelton and the Ireland England game was switched over because everyone wanted to watch United.
You moan about people putting down rugby, but ok for you to put a dig in at a game here. Danny Cullen, Declan coulter, Damien Cassidy. Ryan gaffney, Kevin hinphey might not be names you know but in hurling circle here they get the highest respect. You tell people to stop spouting nonsense about rugby, and rightly so, but to say that hurling isn't played anywhere here is sports snobbery in the extreme. Iv lived with Donegal people for the most of the last 3 years and spent enough time up there to have a good understanding of things there.
There is some hurling in Donegal but very small numbers.
Again from my experience of Donegal lads/lasses I know rugby gets more talk/discussion than its thought.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 30/05/2015 21:28:57    1730375

30/05/2015 18:20:59 ROS1
O Ormond you are predicable if nothing else rugby gets massive coverage over other sports as has been shown in the other thread. There is no rugby club in county Roscommon for example. You just have to look at the poor crowd last Saturday for Munster's home semi final in the pro 12, which lets not forget was Paul O'Connell's last game, for years we have been feed stories about Munsters great support but as the have gone down a bit people have stopped coming. Why cant you compare Galweigans with Galway United. Btw Leeds is in the British isles. Eh there is rugby clubs in Roscommon. Creggs. The Roscommon CBS has had a very successful years in recent times at various levels. Their junior(u16) team won the Connacht premier league and Connacht junior schools cup double this year. Winning cup final 36-0 against the Jes.
Last Munster game didn't have huge crowd but game at end of season. Most fans had already shelved out €300/400 on tickets etc like season tickets and that's not to include all other expenses.
Leeds are in British isles but in England. Very different situations/examples.
Galwegians are not the premier rugby side In Galway/Connacht in rugby. Galway United are much more. They are very different

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 30/05/2015 21:39:04    1730383

30/05/2015 19:24:37 D.Horse
great post...
ormond
How many teams do those hurling clubs in Ulster field compared to numbers of teams fielded by the rugby clubs. Schools final of rugby is televised in Ulster the same as the gaelic football mcrory cup final.
Media isn't biased. Hurling isn't third biggest in Ulster. There is no hurling or very very little in many counties in Ulster.
30/05/2015 19:39:28 PucABoutYe
I can't be sure of actual playing numbers, but many hurling clubs in ulster have 2nds and 3rds teams too. Yes gaelic football and rugby schools are televised, but hurling isnt. That was my point. I didn't say the media up here was biased to the GAA. It barely knows hurling exists. I think, unless your involved in hurling up here, you will hear little or nothing about all levels of hurling. RTE and TG4 aren't available to everyone here, so there is a pretty big part of the population, regardless of community background, who have never seen a game.Many rugby clubs in Ulster field down to 5ths/6ths... Hurling final doesn't have the demand to deserve coverage of its final on BBCNI.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 30/05/2015 21:42:12    1730384

what are british isles ??

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2697 - 31/05/2015 09:26:11    1730400

Correct me if I'm wrong but is soccer not the biggest sport in Dublin?? From our experience here in Kildare where thousands of dubs have moved out to in the last 15 years, they have no interest in the gaa and have only got involved in the local soccer clubs we have here. My own town has doubled in population since the year 2000 and I can safely say that our football team has not gained one additional footballer from these new blow ins! I know it's a similar situation in many towns in Kildare Meath Wicklow etc

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 366 - 31/05/2015 10:21:26    1730412

A minority sport in Derry but east Derry was once a part of the ancient Dal Riada kingdom which brought the game over to Scotland so technically it has a very long history here but it is not a major sport here now.

4KHDoneill (Derry) - Posts: 182 - 31/05/2015 12:14:55    1730441

So you know a few people and you've visited a place a few times and that makes you an expert. I lived with a fella from Tipperary in collage too. From Clonmel. Played up the cashel road. By your logic I'm now an expert on all matters in Tipperary.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 31/05/2015 14:46:32    1730475

Ormond Creggs is in Galway, the cbs got to the hogan cup final as well but Rte did not bother to mention the result of that game. What research have you done to show that there is not a interest in showing hurling, none as per usual. Indeed BBC NI show more rugby then football, hurling and soccer combined, this is a clear example once again of media bias. I have to laugh at you demising the importance of the semi final of a competition you have gone on and on about how important it is and been Munster's probably best ever player last home game, i would also imagine that a semi final ticket would be part of the season ticket.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 01/06/2015 13:00:57    1730865

I can only comment really on Derry city. Population of 120,000.

Soccer (english teams) is first
then maybe boxing
and way below those is rugby football and hurling. The county has 40 affiliated clubs, 32 football, 2 hurling and 6 dual

Only 4 of these are in the city area. I would struggle to name the last city lad on a county football team.
30 people in my office. only myself and 2 others watch GAA and only 2 of us watch hurling and he is from Donegal. Most have never been to a football game and couldnt even tell you that we have a hurling team......just try spot the derry fans at next weeks ring final

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 01/06/2015 13:20:21    1730876

If anyone is looking for the lists I posted they are from the Irish sports council Website, in fact they do breakdown sports by a lot of counties but not all. The figures for participation are based on 2013 figures, the only exceptions are Rugby (2014), Ladies Football (2014) and Camogie (2014). The "fastest" growing sports in Ireland are among the women's games, Rugby/Ladies Gaelic Football with slight declines in GAA participation for Juveniles.

More worrying are declines in GAA attendances, but I suspect this will become apparent in say the Leinster final when I predict the Final will dip below 50K.

But the figures are all out there you just have to look.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 01/06/2015 14:00:41    1730906

Slight issue with the Irish sports council Website. It only coveres 60% of the population

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 01/06/2015 14:20:07    1730924

01/06/2015 13:00:57 ROS1
Ormond Creggs is in Galway, the cbs got to the hogan cup final as well but Rte did not bother to mention the result of that game. What research have you done to show that there is not a interest in showing hurling, none as per usual. Indeed BBC NI show more rugby then football, hurling and soccer combined, this is a clear example once again of media bias. I have to laugh at you demising the importance of the semi final of a competition you have gone on and on about how important it is and been Munster's probably best ever player last home game, i would also imagine that a semi final ticket would be part of the season ticket. Some here must be seriously deluded as ye all are implying there is a media conspiracy not to show GAA.
Semi finals are not part of any season ticket. The regular season games and European games are part of some season tickets. No semi finals are ever part of a season ticket.
On Creggs. Got mixed up. Denis Buckley is from Roscommon but played in Creggs.
BBC NI show Ulster rugby games and the odd other game.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/06/2015 14:47:45    1730948

Interesting figures there arock, so even camogie is a good bit bigger than rugby (and that probably includes womens rugby) 85000 - 70000. The ratio of Ladies football/camogie should be indicative of football/hurling, i suppose, that is it has 2/3 as many members (not half as some wwere saying), which makes it bigger than soccer too.
So theres your answer Liam!

By the way, looking at television isnt a sport, which people seem to think watching the pl is :-)

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 01/06/2015 14:50:14    1730952

Of course it is. Two of the top teams in the country got second billing to a football training match yesterday

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 450 - 01/06/2015 15:18:47    1730980

The world according to Ormond eh!!

I have to say as someone who enjoys watching rugby people like you would put me off it!

In my own county I can tell you there are more hurlers than rugby players, i suspect that may also be the case in the rest of ulster too.

There are almost as many hurling clubs in Antrim as there are rugby clubs in Ulster. There are 47 GAA clubs in Antrim, around 30 to 35 would have hurling teams

Here is the link from ulster rugby which states it has 12 senior clubs and 35 junior clubs.

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/domestic/clubs/mensrugby.aspx


I'll let you do the maths/research for working out the amount of hurling clubs in the other Ulster counties!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/06/2015 15:43:47    1730995

Neil Forrester was from Derry city, he played in the Ulster championship in 2012

4KHDoneill (Derry) - Posts: 182 - 01/06/2015 17:35:12    1731060

There you go. I missed the 2011 and 2012. He must have been the first for a while and the last since.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 02/06/2015 09:52:52    1731216

Doylerwex
County: Wexford
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what are british isles ??

The British Isles are two islands that reside off the north west of Europe. The larger island is called Great Britain. The smaller one is called Ireland. Together they are called the British Isles.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 02/06/2015 10:47:15    1731256

DoireCityFC

Slight issue with the Irish sports council Website. It only coveres 60% of the population

It is the Irish sports council and yes there are six counties not in its remit, BUT the only sporting bodies figures really effected by these figures is Soccer but we all agree it would have the highest participation levels on an all-ireland basis. But most all-ireland sports figures are all-ireland numbers.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 02/06/2015 11:19:48    1731279