There is a difference between sledging and trash talking IMO ,one is mouthing off the other is designed and calculated . Surely anyone can see the difference .or is it just me !

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 24/05/2015 13:54:17    1727587

damo its all verbal abuse and the black card is there to punish it would you not agree?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/05/2015 13:58:06    1727589

Loved Oisins comment to Philly Jordan there on sledging - "you couldn't get a word in with all your teammates"

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 24/05/2015 14:47:15    1727621

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Seanie boy
Call it sledging verbals or goading whatever you want
It all the same thing and he clearly did that to try and get at fitzy
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Are you serious? Cry me a river you big baby.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/05/2015 14:51:37    1727629

ok seanie haha
so its ok to mouth off to an opponent it just depends on how much you offend them haha
just like saying its ok to punch somebody but it should only be classed good or bad
depending on how hard you punch them
logic is lost on some people

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/05/2015 14:59:00    1727634

I don't doubt the young Donegal lad. I can't see any player coming off a pitch and making false accusations like that. Tyrone County Board should have stepped up to the plate and took action.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 24/05/2015 15:17:42    1727641

Hill,i dont think Shefflin shouting "class is permanent boy!" to Davy is bad.Thats little more than banter.Its far removed from some of the personnel insults weve heard of in recent times.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 24/05/2015 15:24:06    1727645

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Hill,i dont think Shefflin shouting "class is permanent boy!" to Davy is bad.Thats little more than banter.Its far removed from some of the personnel insults weve heard of in recent times.

the point is you either cut it out of the game or you dont
if you agree with some level of goading or getting at a player
then you will never be able to police the problem
as what are you to do leave it up to a ref to see what he feels is insulting to him?
that would never work

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/05/2015 15:50:16    1727663

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ok seanie haha
so its ok to mouth off to an opponent it just depends on how much you offend them haha
just like saying its ok to punch somebody but it should only be classed good or bad
depending on how hard you punch them
logic is lost on some people
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Actually you are right.There is an acceptable level of verbals and a persons own decency should know where the limits at.People like you want society and sport as an integral part off society to be this sanitized netherworld where nobody says mean things to each other.Seriously wake up man,life is tough,sport should be tough.If ye can't take a bit of ribbing on a football pitch then you have no business being on it!

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/05/2015 15:55:51    1727666

babas keating wrote a good piece yesterday
One day a certain clare player decided unwisely that he would wind up the rattler byrne
The clare player was in the rattlers ear from the start.
He was tipping him with his hurl and warning him about what was going to happen when the ball came down the field.
the rattler said nothing. This went on for a while
Then the rattler seized an oppurtunity and did a job on him leaving him stretched out on the pitch.
After the game ended, the clare player was making his way off the field.
The rattler came up behind him, put his arm across his shoulder and offered some words of advice.
"Dont be going around telling people what you are going to do to them
after all I didnt tell you what I was going to do to you,did I ?"

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/05/2015 15:56:39    1727667

Yes hill because leaving someone on the flat of their back is acceptable...I love how people are saying sledging is awful but yet are advocating hitting boys off the ball.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 24/05/2015 16:06:23    1727672

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Yes hill because leaving someone on the flat of their back is acceptable...I love how people are saying sledging is awful but yet are advocating hitting boys off the ball.

open your mind theres a moral in the story!!!

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/05/2015 16:48:57    1727698

I'm getting confused with this argument, is the word sledging different in Mayo than other parts of the country, here sledging means taking a player out, hitting man and ball, making sure he goes off injured. If you verbally insult somebody you are slate-ing them, I used the - so you wouldn't pronounce the word slatt-ing. The only way to stop slating is when it is said to you, make sure you use every ounce of strength you have and belt him in the jaw making sure you break it and them peeling every other opponent that comes near you. Of course you will get a straight red but then go up to the injured party and say I'm off but so are you. By the way peeling means sledging in Mayo terms, that is belting them

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 25/05/2015 21:51:10    1728400

Excellent letter by the great and most respected Gerry mcentee

McEntee wrote: "It is not only factually incorrect, but an insult to the intelligence and integrity of Sean Boylan, a man that I never once heard encourage any form of physical or verbal intimidation in the 10 years I had the privilege of playing under his guidance.

"I can guarantee that all the players under his stewardship at national and international level could put their hands on their heart and say likewise."

The Nobber man added: "It seems that Art has never got over Tyrone's 1996 All-Ireland semi-final defeat on his watch, and the late tackle that John McDermott put in on Peter Canavan which was exactly that, a late tackle, but was dealt with by the referee at the time as he saw fit.

"I am sure that there are a number of teams or individuals who 'suffered' at the hands of Tyrone during their hard-earned and well deserved three All-Irelands, but I hope they will have got over it 20 years later.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2015 11:10:29    1730421

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Excellent letter by the great and most respected Gerry mcentee

McEntee wrote: "It is not only factually incorrect, but an insult to the intelligence and integrity of Sean Boylan, a man that I never once heard encourage any form of physical or verbal intimidation in the 10 years I had the privilege of playing under his guidance.

"I can guarantee that all the players under his stewardship at national and international level could put their hands on their heart and say likewise."

The Nobber man added: "It seems that Art has never got over Tyrone's 1996 All-Ireland semi-final defeat on his watch, and the late tackle that John McDermott put in on Peter Canavan which was exactly that, a late tackle, but was dealt with by the referee at the time as he saw fit.

"I am sure that there are a number of teams or individuals who 'suffered' at the hands of Tyrone during their hard-earned and well deserved three All-Irelands, but I hope they will have got over it 20 years later.

Canavan was definitely targeted by a number of meath players

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 31/05/2015 11:36:22    1730430

Anyone sick of Tyrone at this stage?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 31/05/2015 13:19:06    1730453

shields got a lot of stick for diving and righly so but look at Paul Geaney when he scores goal roaring into Shields. Hope Sunday game looks at this? If a Donegal or Tyrone player done this they would be condemned

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 19/07/2015 11:34:56    1755579

Hughhunt don't hold your breadth. GAA looking for a Dublin Kerry final. Anything that upsets this will be called "puke ball" or something by the GAA hierarchy. And their media pals.
I don't object to a Dublin Kerry final- as long as the Dubs win.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 19/07/2015 15:06:54    1755715

Hugh Hunt
Cork should know more than most about Meath.

Just because Gerry McEntee says something does that make it fact?

I was at one of those Cork v Meath games in the last century and remember vividly one incident... I was sitting in the Hogan about the 20 metre line and just happened to be looking out in front of me rather than following the ball. Christy Ryan was in the forward line for Cork, as in those days he was standing minding his own business while play was at the other end of the field when a Meath defender walked u from behind him and hit him a kick as hard as he could right between the legs.

I also remember another day when Mickey Linden lost several teeth and it wasn't the dentist removed them.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 19/07/2015 16:47:35    1755780

Not sure why my earlier post was not put up but here I go again only this time not including the name of the main target if that helps.

It did not escape my attention that Tyrone and one of their players in particular seemed to be on the receiving end of some verbals/sledging on Saturday. Ironic given the outcry after the two sides met in the U21 final and some of the holier than thou comments at the time.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 20/07/2015 11:56:06    1756247