Brutally inconsistent officiating my friend. Nothing more.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 17/05/2015 19:20:05    1724651

Two observations:

1: referees (not just Joe McQuilan today) have consistently failed to implement the new black card rules:
2: a 10-minute sinbin (that works pretty well in ladies football) would have been a much better option

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 17/05/2015 19:22:27    1724653

@clondalkin, both were yellows, that's why. High challenges like that warrant a yellow, I have no idea what the refs reasoning was for issuing a black card. That said, it wasn't even in the top ten bad decisions he made today

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 17/05/2015 19:31:06    1724658

Sure didn't many of us predict this nonsense before it came in? Officials are human and in certain circumstances are caving in to pressure in some games and not properly implementing cards. In that game today there should have been at least 5 or 6 black cards but McQuillan didn't issue them. You have to sincerely ask did the crowd and pressure influence this? The black card is again dominating the agenda when it shouldn't.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 17/05/2015 19:35:07    1724664

There is nothing more predictable on here than referees getting abuse after every game, regardless of how they performed or indeed how the players performed in terms of discipline. There was no way Neil Gallaghers first yellow card was anything other than that, a big slower man beaten to the ball by a faster opponent, anyone who thinks it was a black card has little idea of the games rules. There were a number of players booked for off the ball incidents so clearly the referee and his umpires were working together, if he had handed out any more cards we would have people on here saying he didn't understand Ulster football and should have let things go more. I thought Cavanaghs second foul was a yellow rather than a black card for a high tackle, but would have much bigger complaints about how the 2 Magees behaved after that foul than the referees decision. Was also some justice in seeing Cavanagh get his red considering his earlier behaviour in the game.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 17/05/2015 19:37:06    1724665

Bad refereeing = the biggest problem facing the GAA for many a year and nothing done about it.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 17/05/2015 19:39:28    1724667

who would be a referee in today modern game , with so much happening all over the pitch.
The Ref in a split second has to decide was a tackle a red card, yellow card ,Black card or a talking to. While some players are out to gain any advantage possible through sledging ,pulling players down with them as they are tackled and diving.
Refs need more help. .
Extra eyes in the stadium watching on screen and relaying decision to ref would certainly help.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 17/05/2015 19:48:34    1724679

I didnt see the game. But I know poor refereeing in Soccer is rife. So give the GAA refs a break. The black card is in my opinion a great idea.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 17/05/2015 20:13:42    1724699

Indeed AthCliath, I almsot pitied McQuillan out there today.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 17/05/2015 20:14:37    1724700

AthCliath - there's 2 linesmen and 4 umpires there with eyes in their heads and, supposedly, in contact with the ref to tell him what's going on. They should be used more often for contentious decisions. The officials performances should be analysed post-match to try and help them be more decisive and consistent. Forget the black card, just bring more consistency in giving a player a tick in the book, a yellow or red card.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7347 - 17/05/2015 20:27:18    1724710

nobody got away with murder today and at the same time nobody could complain with what did come their way. I don't think any decision the ref did or didn't make influenced the result. No ref can be perfect but he had a good game in general. Pace yourselves lads, its a long summer, there'll be plenty of REAL talking points to come

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 17/05/2015 20:30:30    1724711

Agree with Saffron the ref was ok today he might have got a few cards wrong but he wasn't afraid to dish them out in general. It was a difficult game to ref and he didn't influence the result. There will be worse

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 17/05/2015 20:44:22    1724718

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AthCliath - there's 2 linesmen and 4 umpires there with eyes in their heads and, supposedly, in contact with the ref to tell him what's going on. They should be used more often for contentious decisions. The officials performances should be analysed post-match to try and help them be more decisive and consistent. Forget the black card, just bring more consistency in giving a player a tick in the book, a yellow or red card.

In an ideal world , the other officials would help out more,(but they dont, certainly not enough ) lets be honest the buck stops with the Ref and there is a lot to contend with in any high profile championship game.
Someone in the stand with a view of the whole pitch and the luxury of rewatching it again on a monitor could certainly take the heat of the ref for more contentious decisions and any off the ball stuff.
Ref could then just worry about following the play.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 17/05/2015 21:18:43    1724744

I agree AthCliath, like a TMO. And he could give the ref a two minute warning for half-time or full-time or updates if time is added on so the ref can just concentrate on the plaay and not having to add on time for subs, stoppages etc. I still think the yellow and red cards, if reffed properly, are enough.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7347 - 17/05/2015 21:50:29    1724767

In all honesty, there were a few incidents that could have warranted yellow cards too. Do we do away with the yellow cards also? Or just accept that sometimes refs don't get everything right...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/05/2015 09:50:30    1724822

Does anyone know the results of the other games played over the weekend?

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 18/05/2015 09:57:56    1724829

What amazed me Gallagher got a yellow for a kick

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 18/05/2015 10:34:53    1724855

I can't remember who was the offender but in the first 5-10 minutes of the first half a Donegal player caught a Tyrone player around the neck and received a yellow card.

Sean Cavanagh was given a black card (and a red card as a result) of a very similar challenge.

The inconsistency of refs is unbelievable, the timing of the offense shouldn't have any bearing on the punishment.

Refs make mistakes we all know that but this nonsense of mollycoddling Refs when they have a bad game in my opinion is bull, pat mcenaney should be able to come out and say "look the ref had a bad game we'll review the situation and the ref will assess how he could improve etc, etc"

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 18/05/2015 10:38:33    1724857

No matter what you do with the cards, its meaningless if referees can't/won't apply the rules of the game - simple, that is ALL that is wrong with Gaelic football.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 18/05/2015 13:35:07    1724971

Sean Cavanagh's black card was never a black! It was a high tackle, not a cynical one and should have been a yellow. Poor decision by the ref. At the match yesterday I was of the opinion that Gallaghers yellow was the right decision but after seeing it again last night I think he was lucky not to see black for a deliberate trip.

A game will hinge on one of these inconsistencies this year and the GAA need to get it sorted. I thought the ref needed much more help yesterday than he got from his umpires and linesmen. The amount of off the ball stuff by both teams was unreal and the ref had enough problems dealing with the on ball stuff. Two experienced linesmen and they hardly made a comment to him all day.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 18/05/2015 13:55:59    1724989