LoyalVin
County: Mayo
Posts: 78

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Well done to both sides for serving up a very entertaining game on Sunday. But I wish RTE would stop taking a one-sided approach when commenting on "targetting". The treatment of Seán Cavanagh was far worse than the treatment of Murphy. Even the shots the Sunday game showed that night showed Murphy guilty of as much as he took. Murphy has one of the worst disciplinary records in the game and he doesn't always come up against McMahon.

What a silly post, you obviously weren't at the game..... If you want to judge this on what you saw from a couple of snippets on the Sunday game so be it..... Sean cavangh got plenty of attention surely but at least he was able to make runs for a ball rather than being cut off right, left and centre....

People saying Justin Mc mahon had a great game on MM and holding him scoreless from play would suggest this, but the fact of the matter he never beat MM to one ball where the ball was hit in front of them, the reason for this is because MM was never allowed to even make a run for a ball, that's the facts of it and anybody that was at the game could clearly see this away from the glare of the tv camera's........

I just really wonder what linesmen and umpires do in matches, as far as I'm concerned they are there to watch the game, to flag goals amd points and not have to pay into it, and I'm not just on about the game on Sunday but most games in general, you get that in club football where the ref has no help but surely at this level there has to be more help from these officials.....

ben1977 (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 19/05/2015 13:29:23    1725475

Lots of posters on here must have been at the game and not even from Tyrone or Donegal as you know so much about it. I was at the game and also recorded the game and watched it back again last night and you just don't get any indication of the treatment that Murphy got as most of it was off the ball. Some people looking for credit for Mc Mahon would need to cop on a bit. If touching an opponents nether regions, stamping on his toes, continuously shouting in his face, and not even looking at play are what is now required to do a good man marking job then the game has really slipped out of control. The two Mc Gee's are no angels either and we all know in Donegal that they certainly give out their fair share of abuse at both club and county level but I can guarantee they would not have gone 60mins on Sunday using the same tactic as Mc Mahon did without a yellow.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 19/05/2015 13:38:10    1725484

tyrone0358
County: Tyrone
Posts: 36

1725403 There was no call for Jim McGuinness to single out Justin McMahon in such a way to criticize him, nor was there a need for the criticism that had come on Justin; in fact he should be credited with his performance. Justin had an excellent game, he kept Donegal's key forward scoreless from play, and put a point on the board himself. Well done Justin.

Well Jim McGuinness's column will highlight to referee's around the whole country, that Michael Murphy is being singled out for harsh treatment. And that is bad news for Armagh, who could be made an example of for attempting more of the same, so perhaps there was a need for it.

Look I agree Justin McMahon did the job he was given, and he did so with honours. I think despite Donegal knowing how good Tyrone are, some of the media didn't seem to think Tyrone could perform that well and seemed surprised by how tight it was. Every game is tight between Donegal and Tyrone.

Overall it was mission accomplished for Donegal.
- New Manager's first Championship game won, beating bitter rivals in the process.
- No Injuries acquired
- No straight red cards
- Colm McFadden showing signs of form returning, looked great in new role.

Quite entertaining for an Ulster preliminary round game, which can often be dull affairs. I would really love to see a Donegal v Tyrone Ulster final, as I think that would be truly electrifying game with massive build up.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 19/05/2015 14:10:04    1725511

Roaring abuse at a player, often very personal stuff, is the act of a coward. But for both management teams to say they don't instruct their players to do it is even more cowardly,it is clear it is a tactic both use and if management don't agree with such actions why not take the players off rather than letting them bring shame on their county's jersey. Rory Gallagher was well known for running onto the field to whisper abuse into an opponents ear when a selector under McGuinness, any player who played against Donegal would be able to give examples of that.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/05/2015 14:14:48    1725517

Soma
County: UK
Posts: 986

1725517

Are you a Monaghan fan Soma?

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 19/05/2015 14:26:09    1725534

Gary
Derry/Donegal

"New Manager's first Championship game won, beating bitter rivals in the process"

I don't think Tyrone people regard Donegal as bitter rivals. Yes its a local derby game but not a long history of bitterness. Tyrones main bitter rival is Armagh full stop and Kerry

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 19/05/2015 14:34:35    1725539

92dl
County: Cavan
Posts: 48

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LoyalVin
County: Mayo
Posts: 78

Sean Kavanagh is a great player but he should stop the diving, his brother is even at it now...

Can you not spell the mans name correctly by now? Also if you weren't so blinkered in your views you would see that the much talked about Mr Murphy could also be accused of the same, two instances on Sunday in particular come to mind.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 19/05/2015 14:40:00    1725548

tyrone0358 I agree that mcMahon is a great player but he didnt even try to play football on Sunday. That is what make it much different to other such man marking jobs. Dont get me wrong I as a forward has received some harsh marking jobs but never anything like what I seen on Sunday. People comparing Eamon McGee and Cavanagh. I except there are some similarities but at least McGee spend some of the game looking at the ball. Sure there was off the ball stuff which isnt nice to see but from my point of view whilst Donegal are by no means angels they went out to play more football than Justin McMahon.

On a slight other note as I like many others were appalled by his onfield action I must say after rewatching the melee at half time. Justin McMahon was one of only a few who were pulling his own players away from it.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 19/05/2015 14:43:39    1725550

Long history of bitterness......... Kerry

Funny sure you my played them once before the 2003 season, doesn't sound like too long of a history to me....

Joking aside, I agree that your rivalry with armagh is the strongest in the province.........

ben1977 (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 19/05/2015 14:50:16    1725560

Murphy deserves great credit for keeping his cool and not getting suckered into lashing out and getting himself sent off. I think he is a fine player. I'm sure there was a lot of negative stuff from both sides in this game but Tyrone seem to be the masters at it. Already this year we have seen Mickey Harte and Feargal Logan's Tyrone teams giving first class displays of unsporting behaviour and it's nothing new either. For Mickey Harte or Feargal Logan to deny knowledge of it is farcical. Harte must know what his players are at when some of them are looking away from the ball and looking straight into his man's face yelling personal abuse at him. It's horrible.

Liameen (USA) - Posts: 38 - 19/05/2015 14:52:07    1725562

Destruction........ Yeah Justin Mc mahon pulled a few people back, it's a pity he didn't pull his brother back as he was one of the main culprits in these, what isn't shown on tv but I saw him knee Rory gallagher in the back of the leg as they were walking off.... Big joe should put himself out of his misery and retire....

Also Gavin Devlin their assistant manager pushed murphy as he was ready to go down the tunnel, it's funny that their is no mention of these things, subs and mentors acting like this turns things very poisonous and its no wonder that their was a row at half time......

ben1977 (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 19/05/2015 15:00:06    1725574

Yes don't get me wrong its not nice to see players rowing/pushing or mouthing but subs or backroom staff should never be involved in any incidents.
I wasnt sure of the name on that tyrone mentor but yes he was involved in alot of pushing/shoving too.

Not nice to see but victory was for our boys and they will get more of the same against Armagh based on last years QF.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 19/05/2015 15:10:32    1725580

ben1977
County: Donegal
Posts: 284

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Yes ben1977, too many people from Tyrone holiday in Donegal so we cant really dislike your county too much.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 19/05/2015 15:13:14    1725582

the main positive that came out of this game was that tyrone lost.for too long m harte plays the saint and yet sends his teams out like that.
lot of credit to m murphy who in the end won the game for dl. iwould fear that armagh would be even dirtier and nastier though. good to see dl standing up to these teams as for too long they were bullied.

d13 (Cavan) - Posts: 5 - 19/05/2015 15:16:09    1725586

Once again everyone forgetting gallaghers kick in first half straight red in my eyes . Oh takes two to tangle on row at half time

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 19/05/2015 15:16:33    1725588

d13, dont predisaster the armagh game!! lets assume that McGeeney has them running around cones and then doing some zen meditation after the session.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 19/05/2015 15:23:15    1725597

cacsmckilly
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1043

1725539 Gary
Derry/Donegal

"New Manager's first Championship game won, beating bitter rivals in the process"

I don't think Tyrone people regard Donegal as bitter rivals. Yes its a local derby game but not a long history of bitterness. Tyrones main bitter rival is Armagh full stop and Kerry

Tyrone had a competitive bitter rivalry with Armagh 2001 and 2008 and a short meaningful rivalry with Kerry between 2003 and 2008, that was for a brief period of massive success. Tyrone and Armagh have drifted off the pace since then, and have not been able to compete with the likes of Kerry, Dublin, Cork or Mayo for the All Ireland Championship's since then.

Since 2011, Donegal have essentially become the new Kingpins of Ulster football and Monaghan are possibly their main competitive rivals. Donegal have shown themselves to be the single biggest threat to Tyrone in Ulster football over the last 5 years, and thus I reckon they are Tyrone's biggest rivals or the contemporary Ulster team that this Tyrone panel would most like to beat.

For Donegal, Tyrone are the only bordering neighbour that can really challenge them at present and a team the Donegal fans love beating. While there are bigger competitive rivals or challenges elsewhere, the Donegal fans still love playing Tyrone.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 19/05/2015 15:23:16    1725598

tir_eoghain_abu
County: Tyrone
Posts: 759


Just a question about substitutions. When a player is taken off surely he's not allowed to stand on the sideline. I think it was Christy Toye who kicked a ball away when it was going out. Also could Joe McQuillan not have let play continue when the ball hit him as we regained possession. Before anyone thinks I'm complaining, I'm just not sure of the ruling and wanted it cleared up.


The rule is if the ball hits the referee its a throw up. McQuillan had no option but to throw it up

bigone (None) - Posts: 75 - 19/05/2015 16:00:14    1725643

"For Donegal, Tyrone are the only bordering neighbour that can really challenge them at present and a team the Donegal fans love beating. While there are bigger competitive rivals or challenges elsewhere, the Donegal fans still love playing Tyrone."

It was indeed nice beating Tyrone again the other day. But for me, beating Armagh on their own patch would top that.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 19/05/2015 16:23:04    1725670

Good to see that Gavin Devlin will receive a ban. He ran to get involved in that rucus at half time and should get a lengthy ban. They didn;t go far enough though and Joe Mc Mahon should also get a ban for the kick on Rory Gallagher from behind!!

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 21/05/2015 10:37:31    1726353