Like I said from the start pat Flanagan shouldn't have even been thinking of Dublin never mind talking about playing them in anywhere. After all his home advantage as some call it amounted to nothing last night.
Ironically they played better against the same opposition 3 weeks ago in the other ground that is Croke park

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/05/2015 13:25:01    1724436

Nonsense hill.Whos to say if the game was played in Pearse Park,Longford wouldnt have won by more than 3 points.Hill,there are very few who wouldnt choose to play at home if given the choice.There are few who agree with you in regards home advantage only being a myth.Nobody said being at home guarantees a victory.If the opposition is far superior it matters very little.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 17/05/2015 14:17:22    1724459

You two lads

Closer each dayyyy,
Home and Away.....

:D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 17/05/2015 14:23:15    1724463

How is it nonsense when his team had to play Longford
Before he could or should have had Dublin on his mind
Certainly backfired

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/05/2015 15:15:10    1724478

I think you boys argue for arguments sake.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/05/2015 15:35:44    1724485

Im sure Flanagan didnt overlook Longford.He said whoever wins that game should be at home for Dublin game.Nothing wrong with that.Hill,would you say Micky Harte and his players and the vast majority of Tyrone people would prefer to be playing Donegal today in Ballybofey or Omagh?Would Tyrone fancy their chances more at home.Would they have a wee advantage in Omagh.Would the bookies take this home advantage into account whilst pricing up the game?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 17/05/2015 15:35:48    1724486

Oars law cuderocket
"What the thinker thinks the prover proves"
I'll leave it at that my friend

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/05/2015 15:51:23    1724494

Dublin have an advantage of playing every Leinster and AllIreland game in Croke Park like any other team using a home venue would have but I know that majority of dubs fans would love to travel for games but it's the Leinster Council that are arranging their games in Croke Park, sure didn't they vote 11-1 in favour of Dublin playing champ games in Croker, it's all down to money. Here is a thought would the GAA have arranged an AllIreland semi final replay involving Dublin away from Croke Park, I doubt it (they did in the early 1980s). At the end of the day all the GAA care about is how much money they can make and which team can generate it the most

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 17/05/2015 18:39:56    1724621

Strange how nobody complains how ridiculous the scenario next weekend in Munster will be.
You have Clare v limerick in both football and hurling.
But what do the Munster council do they go and fix football for Saturday evening in Ennis and hurling Sunday in thurles.
Ridiculous situation when an obvious chance to make a double header on the Sunday in the Gaelic grounds and allow both games have a great crowd instead of having the football played in front of very few and then drag the hurling match all the way to thurles when the Gaelic grounds is as easy for Clare supporters to attend as most limerick.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/05/2015 20:59:52    1724732

Ah Hillman that would mean the GAA using their heads for once, again it's a money thing, they must think that the ground will be full for Saturday and again on Sunday, just because the top dogs in the GAA and the provinces live on cloud cuckoo land with bags of money under their backsides doesn't mean that the rest of us trying to survive in a recession can afford to go to a champ match on sat and again on Sunday especially when the same counties are involved

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 17/05/2015 21:54:20    1724769

hill16no1man - re limerick v clares games (same thing last year with limerick v tipp - football in liemrick on sat night and hurling in thurles on sun) - while i would agree with you that it would make sense for a gaelic grounds double header, bearing in mind the whole of clare is dissected by the motorway to limerick
it would end up with more people seeing the football game


however to counteract our arguements you have to bear in mind
-clare v limerick football have home and away agreement (as do limk and tipp) so its clares turn. - given that football comes second to hurling in clare limerick and tipp - the footballers may view it as a being disingenuous that they have to move their fixture due to the hurlers
-there is a tradition in munster of imtermediate/junior championship games being played as curtain raisers
- clare would never cede to giving us home advantage

All of the above counterarguements could however be overcome- Also if you really want to go to both matches - then you can go

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 18/05/2015 09:46:55    1724817

In fairness to Flanagan, I would be fairly sure he will be happier with his team going into the qualifiers now after losing by a few points, than after being completely annihilated and utterly demoralised in he next round.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/05/2015 09:49:03    1724821

few things strike me reading this interesting thread

- lot of dubs fans are yearning for an away day in championship (one mad suggestion could be for dublin to play a quarter final in thurles- depending on who they get) however if i was a longford for example player i would prefer to play dubs in croke park - as a limerick fan when we got to football qfinals in 2011 the big prize for us was croke park
- can understand for moneys reasons why they are all played in croke park and of course the ground is bigger

compare this to last years munster hurling final cork v limerick - - it would have made more sense to play the game in thurles or limerick due to bigger capacity - but Cork wanted to play it in Cork as is their perogative - even clare v cork semi final was played in thurles for some reason even though limeirck is inbetween the counties - even tipp v cork qualifer in 2004 was for some reason played in kilarney rather than limerick

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 18/05/2015 09:52:34    1724825

Saw on a Balls.ie article that the last time the Dubs played outside Croker they almost lost to Longford in Pearse Park link

mayo_hurler (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 18/05/2015 16:53:12    1725126

Yes going to Croke Park is a big reward for many counties but would it not be just as rewarding to have thousands of your own supporters welcoming one of the best teams in the county down where you can have a real go at them. The atmosphere in Croke Park between Longford and Dublin will be none existent because it will not be worth supporters time shouting. If the game was down in Longford there would be massive hype in the county and this would feed into the player's morale. The entire hierarchy of the GAA needs a complete overhaul and to forget about the financial aspect of it for a little while, at the end of the day it should be about what is best for the Championship. A complete hinding in Croker or a bit of excitement around Longford when the Dubs come to town.

LakemenAbu (Westmeath) - Posts: 134 - 18/05/2015 18:06:32    1725187

mayo_hurler
County: Mayo
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1725126
Saw on a Balls.ie article that the last time the Dubs played outside Croker they almost lost to Longford in Pearse Park link

Has to be the thickest post i seen in a while. Sure we lost in Croker last year.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 18/05/2015 20:46:46    1725238

TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 13123

1724821
In fairness to Flanagan, I would be fairly sure he will be happier with his team going into the qualifiers now after losing by a few points, than after being completely annihilated and utterly demoralised in he next round.

There is not a chance he is happier, His team crumbled under his watch. A team that they hammered in league finsal turned them over in first champo game of the year. Offaly havnt won a championship game in something like 8 years. Flanagan would of had this game as the one to break that duck and give him some credibility.
Now he is under serious pressure. Happier i dont think so.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 18/05/2015 20:51:01    1725239

Lakemen, id agree with a lot of that .

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 18/05/2015 20:53:26    1725241

why would flanagan be happier?..he lost a very winnable game..its not like offaly are going to win the all ireland..they were always going to end up in the qualifiers..they should be beating teams around the same level..not doing so is very demoralising...they would have nothing to lose against the dubs

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/05/2015 21:22:43    1725259

Anyone that thinks Offaly are happier to be heading to the qualifiers instead of Croke Park to play the Dubs is talking pure tripe.....Offaly haven't won a game in Leinster for 8 years which is a damning statistic for such a great county, it's small steps for Offaly and a Leinster win coupled with promotion to Division 3 would have represented serious progress, that progress can still be achieved if they keep together and work hard in the qualifiers. Even the great blue legend Jack Sheedy thinks the Dubs should be heading to Longford next but look the vast majority of people here feel the same, the issue must be sorted in 2016, plenty of venues around Leinster that are suitable for and would welcome the Dubs....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/05/2015 21:39:05    1725265