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Abolish replays

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Replays favor the stronger counties. Minnows who catch the big boys on the hop always get beaten in the replay.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 06/05/2015 16:43:04    1720951

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too much money at stake to do this. Mayo v kerry reaped in an extra million or so for the gaa. Extra time??? u must be joking man.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 06/05/2015 16:48:46    1720960

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Like the system as is. Don't see the need to change on this one.

They are not such a major occurrence anyway.

I for one am delighted that the last three hurling finals went to replays, great days out.

It's not replays that have been backing up the club season so why change

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 06/05/2015 16:57:55    1720961

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Defnately the card system would be pointless, the objective of winning is getting the ball over or under the bar. It would be good if they done the standard 10 minutes a half if extra time and if the teams were still level they should do a next score wins situation. Now that would be entertainment at the highest

PoppinPoints (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 06/05/2015 16:58:55    1720962

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I'd agree with abolishing replays. Replays are a big problem for all master fixture plans. Look how seemless other sporting competitions are run off without replays. Hard to see them being removed due to the £££££££ reason.

It could be trialled in the qualifiers. If it works great. If not, it'll give someone something more to complain about!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7859 - 07/05/2015 20:16:41    1721387

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06/05/2015 11:25:13 tirawleybaron
One of the big problems with shortening the intercounty season is allowing time for replays.
How about abolishing replays for all except the final?
1. Drawn matches go to extra time.
2. No cancelling of cards at end of game - carry them into extra time
3. Lowest number of cards at end of extra time wins the game if scores are level - rewards fair play
4. IF no of cards are same - free kicks from 45 yard line dictates winner (best of 5 then sudden death)
Think that's very fair. Works in other sports so don't see how it wouldn't work in gaelic/hurling
06/05/2015 11:29:02 yew_tree
I agree with abolishing replays but is wont happen as too much much $$$$$ at stake. I don't agree with the cards system. 45's is interesting.
Don't agree with what on cards system?
06/05/2015 11:39:04 Thomas Clarke
I'd abolish replays completely, especially for finals. One of the great anti-climaxes in sport is when the roars of a frenetic crowd are completely silenced by a referee's whistle signalling a draw. Sport is drama, and the tension builds and builds in a tight game, leading towards a decisive conclusion. But a referee signalling a draw instantly kills everything, and always leaves me completely unsatisfied, irrespective of how good the game has been before.
The argument that amateurs shouldn't have to play beyond 70 minutes is not valid, as extra-time is already used in replays. Replays in the GAA are purely about increasing revenue. We are the only sport who have our showpiece finals go to replays, and money is the only reason for this.
yep. +1 totally agree
06/05/2015 11:53:02 Htaem
I agree with abolishing replays but I can't see the Gaa ever doing that, they'd stand to lose too much money. I also agree that cards should be carried into extra time but the game should never decided on card count, at the end of the day the awarding of cards is still quite inconsistent and so you can't fairly decide a game upon them.
As for if the game ended level after extra time I suppose I'd be open to either a penalty shootout or a freekick shootout, to be honest neither is particularly fair either but they are very tense and they negate the need for a replay.
Why shouldn't a game ever be decided on card count? If one team has fouled much more than the other should that not play a role in deciding victor. What about most goals also is favoured....
06/05/2015 12:00:54 cuederocket
I would only allow replays if a game ends all square after extra time is played.All games that finish level after 70 mins should have to play 30 mins extra time.
Two things i would abolish with immediate effect
1 Winning captains speeches
2 The managers going into dressing room of opposing teams post game(not just because of recent incident)
30 minutes extra time is too much. 20 is enough. You're going off topic there but don't see whats wrong with winning captain making a speech. coaches going into changing room why is that an issue?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/05/2015 21:41:44    1721422

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Not in favour of abolishing replays,but do agree with having extra time after the sides are level after 70mins

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/05/2015 21:57:36    1721434

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I would not abolish replays at all but I would use extra time more. All games should go to extra time and try to decide them on the day. However I don't agree that we should defo finish all games on the day with some sort of penos/free kicks concoction.

Penalty shootouts are great drama alright but I find them quite unsatisfactory in terms of deciding who the better team is. If teams are level after extra time then I think they both deserve a replay and a chance to actually win the match.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13711 - 08/05/2015 08:23:06    1721437

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still no one answering effects on the players , Dublin out on their feet 2 years ago , but guys be happy to keep it all going . Player welfare me ars7
What do player want or deserve , hey its about the fans , cleared up also .
The fact that guys are better conditioned than previously does not make them professional , so why oh why the need to compare them to professional sportsmen ?

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 08/05/2015 11:19:35    1721485

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witnof
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Like the system as is. Don't see the need to change on this one.

Agree, don't see any need to change it either. There will always be the odd year where there are loads of replays but so what. Most teams only play 2 or 3 championship games anyway. Teams with lots of depth to their panel are at an advantage in extra time (i.e. Dublin).

The idea of deciding a match on cards is absolutely ridiculous. The game is about who scores most, why tie the disciplinary system into directly determining the result.
And if you think the referee's interpretation of the rules is affecting the games now wait until your team gets put out due to dodgy yellow or black cards.

What about incidents the referees miss but are clear red/yellow/black cards. Mistake happens every year, how would that be handled in the event of a draw. More confusion, more controversy...

The only thing that should matter for determining the result is the score at the end of the game.

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 08/05/2015 11:47:39    1721498

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I thought this motion was voted on at the congress and shot down. I think a Tipperary club proposed it

The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 08/05/2015 12:20:22    1721507

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I remember in 06, drawing with Tyrone, and the buzz that created around the county. We lost the replay by four or five points, but the excitement of that first game couldn't be matched. Imagine that game ending with Tyrone winning on penalties, or free kicks. The smaller county deserve a 2nd chance if they earn it. Why is it in the GAA that we are obsessed with the idea of changing things. There are some things like time keeping, and video replays that could help the game, but replays aren't a problem. Look at the excitement of Mayo v Kerry last year, sometimes people want things changed for the sake of it.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1655 - 08/05/2015 12:39:42    1721509

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I agree that replays should be done away with but agree that they wont be because of the money.

People have been talking about the great games they have witnessed between counties and buzz etc with going again the following week but the GAA is more than just those who pull on a county jersey. The Club is the very root of the GAA but then again you would have to wonder these days.

With every replay come more delays in club championships, comes more players at Club level reorganising their lives to suit a replay as the club matches get put back 2and 3 weeks in certain cases.

Do away with replays and you have the opportunity to have a definite calendar for the year which can only benefit players at all levels including the ordinary club man.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1347 - 08/05/2015 15:36:13    1721578

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No matter how good a drawn match is, and theyre by their very nature good contests, there is always a sense of disappointment and a universal sense of anti climax about them at the final whistle.
Replays being a tradition doesnt come into it. Id like to get rid of them.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 09/05/2015 16:20:23    1721771

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