Cork aren't a team to judge Dublin against. Cork are a poor side who over play the ball around the backs, get caught in possession far too often and are near impossible to watch play. They are probably the most over-rated side in the country. People should remember that Tipp should have had Cork beaten last year. They were poor against Sligo last year and got throttled by Kerry. Aidan Walsh was a serious loss to the panel also. Billy Morgan is the only coach who I have ever seen who can get Cork playing an attractive style of play.There was a time in the late 80s to the early 2000's when Cork drew a big following a played with style and flair. This side were totally over-powered today it was men against boys stuff. Cork need to get Billy Morgan back again to sort this mess out

The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 26/04/2015 19:05:16    1717670

Richie those three teams weren't consistently bothering Kerry apart from the 82 final the only competition Kerry had was from Dublin and cork

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 26/04/2015 19:06:45    1717671

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Those Martin McHugh still think Dublin are mentally weak? Are we likely to get a retraction from this great GAA guru? I won't hold my breath.

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In fairness Dublin's mental strength didn't come within an asses roar of being tested today so your best wait for a better example before looking for a retraction, and I'm no fan of Martin McHugh's punditry either by the way.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 26/04/2015 19:15:30    1717675

Hahaha love these threads..

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/04/2015 19:27:11    1717680

Riches

I was joking and agree Dublin weren't ever in difficulty. Cork were dire today. To give some credit to McHugh he did tip us to win as well.
A.

Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 26/04/2015 19:31:09    1717685

Are we really basing all this on todays game?? All we learned today was that cork font have the strength in depth that dubs have. NEWSFLASH!!!!!! NO COUNTY HAS.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/04/2015 19:53:56    1717701

Indeed royal and who pays for that Dublin strength in depth? Mostly Croke Park grants and subsidies for coaching in Dublin. What we have at the minute is a massive Dublin sun with all the wee satellite counties spinning around it. For the greater good and if others are to compete then the money Dublin gets annually from the GAA will have to be redirected to other counties and provinces, for say a 3 year period as a start. Let Dublin keep all their sponsorship and advertising money and pay for their own coaching and give the others a small chance to recover and put structures in place. If we don't the GAA will lose flavour and interest with others who will just get bored with the annual Dublin steamroll. The lack of investment and disinterest from Croke Park has ensured that Gaelic Games in Antrim and Belfast are now playing second fiddle to soccer which is the biggest sport by a long distance amongst young Nationalists. That will start to happen in other counties and provinces if Croke Park don't wake up and get a grip on the massive unfairness going on with Dublin.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 26/04/2015 20:25:51    1717713

This Dublin team have a few more All Ireland's to win if they are to be termed the greatest ever...their knowledgeable fans on this forum will agree. Good win for them today but nothing more than a glorified training session against a Cork team and supporters that failed to show up.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 26/04/2015 20:42:34    1717721

Nothing like watching some narrow minded worlds implode when Dublin win anything. Next we will be told that 1.8 odd million went directly into training the senior team.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 26/04/2015 20:45:39    1717723

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Are we really basing all this on todays game?? All we learned today was that cork font have the strength in depth that dubs have. NEWSFLASH!!!!!! NO COUNTY HAS.
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I completely disagree with that hyperbolic statement! There's a lot of loose talk starting abut Dublin that's suiting one county above all others - KERRY! The Kerry fans especially love hearing the Dubs being talking up as do the rest of us! I would put Dublin and Kerry on a par as the biggest threats to landing SAM for others, my own county included.

I think Kerry showed in 2014, clearly showed, they have serious strength in depth. When you consider the caliber of player that had just retired or out through injury - they still produced a winning team with a strong bench against expectation. They also won the minor and senior double in the one year and if that were Dublin we'd be hearing about capital domination for the rest of the century! ;-)

In 2015 the All Ireland Champions should be even stronger - just look at all the forwards they have fighting for the starting 6 places. They also have a terrific balance of youth and experience so I think Kerry are more than a match for Dublin in the strength in depth department.

JamesH (Mayo) - Posts: 465 - 26/04/2015 20:46:49    1717724

Only when they do five in a row...does five in a row leagues count? :)

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 26/04/2015 21:50:22    1717751

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Ulsterman County: Antrim Posts: 7219 1717621 Are they better than last year's 'Bestest Dublin team in the history of the GAA Universe' side? Wow.......we are not worthy! Remind me how much did Dublin get from the GAA last year? 1.8 million Euros wasn't it? ---- Ah Ulsterman, we've proved before that you haven't a clue when it comes to fund allocation figures. Why do you keep persisting with these makey up amounts when everybody knows that you are a spoofer? Anyway, the Dubs....the drive for five is on!!!!

Joxer (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 18:23:49

A yawn like most of your pathetic predictable posts UM. Aido

Aido69 (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 18:24:17

I saw the title of this thread and assumed it was started by one of our lovable rogue Dubs. I actually would have Dublin as favourites this year but not because of anything that happens in the National League. The performance today was typically powerful and I believe their success in the league over the last few years shows the strength they have in depth. This is key in the league when counties are looking at their entire squads. What also helps on a day like today is that Dublin normally play league finals knowing that there is not a big championship game just around the corner. I actually found it hard to get excited about this weekends finals given we all know fine well that many of the sides involved have their gaze elsewhere. I think this is evident from the attendance today and yesterday. But hats off to the Dubs, when it comes to league football they are not finding much match these days.

Naysayer (Antrim) - 26/04/2015 18:25:49

8 All Irelands in 12 years. Kerry done it when everything wasn't in their favour. Dublin don't really have any competition outside Kerry, Donegal and Mayo

butters1990 (Kildare) - 26/04/2015 18:29:26

Those Martin McHugh still think Dublin are mentally weak? Are we likely to get a retraction from this great GAA guru? I won't hold my breath. A69

Aido69 (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 18:30:41

Cork aren't a team to judge Dublin against. Cork are a poor side who over play the ball around the backs, get caught in possession far too often and are near impossible to watch play. They are probably the most over-rated side in the country. People should remember that Tipp should have had Cork beaten last year. They were poor against Sligo last year and got throttled by Kerry. Aidan Walsh was a serious loss to the panel also. Billy Morgan is the only coach who I have ever seen who can get Cork playing an attractive style of play.There was a time in the late 80s to the early 2000's when Cork drew a big following a played with style and flair. This side were totally over-powered today it was men against boys stuff. Cork need to get Billy Morgan back again to sort this mess out

The_Bull (Cork) - 26/04/2015 19:05:16

Richie those three teams weren't consistently bothering Kerry apart from the 82 final the only competition Kerry had was from Dublin and cork

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 19:06:45

Aido69 County: Dublin Posts: 259 1717656 Those Martin McHugh still think Dublin are mentally weak? Are we likely to get a retraction from this great GAA guru? I won't hold my breath. A69 In fairness Dublin's mental strength didn't come within an asses roar of being tested today so your best wait for a better example before looking for a retraction, and I'm no fan of Martin McHugh's punditry either by the way.

Richieq (Meath) - 26/04/2015 19:15:30

Hahaha love these threads..

waynoI (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 19:27:11

Riches I was joking and agree Dublin weren't ever in difficulty. Cork were dire today. To give some credit to McHugh he did tip us to win as well. A.

Aido69 (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 19:31:09

Are we really basing all this on todays game?? All we learned today was that cork font have the strength in depth that dubs have. NEWSFLASH!!!!!! NO COUNTY HAS.

royaldunne (Meath) - 26/04/2015 19:53:56

Indeed royal and who pays for that Dublin strength in depth? Mostly Croke Park grants and subsidies for coaching in Dublin. What we have at the minute is a massive Dublin sun with all the wee satellite counties spinning around it. For the greater good and if others are to compete then the money Dublin gets annually from the GAA will have to be redirected to other counties and provinces, for say a 3 year period as a start. Let Dublin keep all their sponsorship and advertising money and pay for their own coaching and give the others a small chance to recover and put structures in place. If we don't the GAA will lose flavour and interest with others who will just get bored with the annual Dublin steamroll. The lack of investment and disinterest from Croke Park has ensured that Gaelic Games in Antrim and Belfast are now playing second fiddle to soccer which is the biggest sport by a long distance amongst young Nationalists. That will start to happen in other counties and provinces if Croke Park don't wake up and get a grip on the massive unfairness going on with Dublin.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - 26/04/2015 20:25:51

This Dublin team have a few more All Ireland's to win if they are to be termed the greatest ever...their knowledgeable fans on this forum will agree. Good win for them today but nothing more than a glorified training session against a Cork team and supporters that failed to show up.

yew_tree (Mayo) - 26/04/2015 20:42:34

Nothing like watching some narrow minded worlds implode when Dublin win anything. Next we will be told that 1.8 odd million went directly into training the senior team.

seany16 (Dublin) - 26/04/2015 20:45:39

royaldunne County: Meath Posts: 7291 1717701 Are we really basing all this on todays game?? All we learned today was that cork font have the strength in depth that dubs have. NEWSFLASH!!!!!! NO COUNTY HAS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I completely disagree with that hyperbolic statement! There's a lot of loose talk starting abut Dublin that's suiting one county above all others - KERRY! The Kerry fans especially love hearing the Dubs being talking up as do the rest of us! I would put Dublin and Kerry on a par as the biggest threats to landing SAM for others, my own county included. I think Kerry showed in 2014, clearly showed, they have serious strength in depth. When you consider the caliber of player that had just retired or out through injury - they still produced a winning team with a strong bench against expectation. They also won the minor and senior double in the one year and if that were Dublin we'd be hearing about capital domination for the rest of the century! ;-) In 2015 the All Ireland Champions should be even stronger - just look at all the forwards they have fighting for the starting 6 places. They also have a terrific balance of youth and experience so I think Kerry are more than a match for Dublin in the strength in depth department.

JamesH (Mayo) - 26/04/2015 20:46:49

Bang on. The Kerry brigade will be happy to hear all this over hype. Usual rubbish spouted about Dublin being out in front by a mile and then the very same heads are on getting the boot on when they loose.
Kerry will sneak along as usual and end up in another final. They have all the resources and depth to win again this year. Don't be fooled by any of this stuff that will go on from here on.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 27/04/2015 11:07:53    1717850

It pains me to say yes Dublin are a great team but they're not an unbeatable team...In leinster meath would have the best chance of beating them will that happen come july 12th probably not but it COULD
And you definitely can't underestimate teams like donegal but I can't see Kerry beating them in the championship to be honest they might win the all ireland but doesn't exactly mean they're the best team ever but then again they have a quarter of the population to choose from they should be

theroyalpicture (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 27/04/2015 11:25:59    1717867

Holy god what Spring madness, Cork won three League's in a row just before them are they to be regarded as one of the all time greats too?

Dublin are dangerous side alright, when they smell blood they don't let up and they ruthlessly exploit any gulf in class from the opposition, as we all saw in HQ yesterday. Cork were abysmal just not at the races at all and were quickly brushed aside.

But a bit of perceptive, Dublin are guaranteed a Q-final every year. Since 2005 there has been nothing in Leinster to touch them and they have the added bonus of playing all their games in Croker so any chance of an ambush by the likes of Meath or Longford or who ever is gone.

Dublin have only won 2 All Irelands in the last 20 years. Neither have they managed to defend either of those titles past the semi-final stage. They have no midfield and they have a tendency to make stupid decisions when put under pressure as we saw against Donegal last year. As we also saw earlier in the League, without Cluxton they can turn into a shambles and god help them if he gets injured at any stage. For all the talk of their great strength in depth, if they lose one or two key players they begin to look very ordinary.

Dublin are a serious outfit and rightly classed in the top 3-4 teams and have as good a chance of anyone else winning an All Ireland this year. But the greatest of all time, Tyrone 2003-2008 were a better side never mind Kerry in the same period.

Personally I feel its Kerry's to lose and I would bet my house (if I ever have one) on the Kingdom beating Dublin (and doing it well) if their paths cross this summer.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/04/2015 12:43:57    1717915

But a bit of perceptive, Dublin are guaranteed a Q-final every year. Since 2005 there has been nothing in Leinster to touch them and they have the added bonus of playing all their games in Croker so any chance of an ambush by the likes of Meath or Longford or who ever is gone.

Eh just on a point of clarity we drew with them in 2007 and beat them in 2010, just to have things right :-)

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 27/04/2015 13:20:10    1717945

Sorry Richie a bit of an over-exaggeration but bar 2010 its been a Sky Blue whitewash in Leinster and can't see that changing anytime soon. Now if ye boys could get them down to Navan ye might rattle them every now and again.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/04/2015 13:26:15    1717951

Ahh lets not get carried away here. Donegal beat dubs last year but if that game was played 10 times dubs would have won 9, and if they got to final donaghy would have had nothing to shout about, could Meath beat dubs this year? Yes but our chances are one in twenty , if we were to meet them afterwards theyd win, there is alot of on the day but its getting less and less.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/04/2015 13:26:51    1717953

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Holy god what Spring madness, Cork won three League's in a row just before them are they to be regarded as one of the all time greats too?

Dublin are dangerous side alright, when they smell blood they don't let up and they ruthlessly exploit any gulf in class from the opposition, as we all saw in HQ yesterday. Cork were abysmal just not at the races at all and were quickly brushed aside.

But a bit of perceptive, Dublin are guaranteed a Q-final every year.

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Yes Munster is so much stronger. Look at how the Munster number 2s performed yesterday! Kerry have it hard alright, one game to reach a quarter final every year so yes guaranteed a QF spot every year. That's tough.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/04/2015 13:35:10    1717960

To Ulsterman a Dublin Devlopement hurling team , a Kilkenny devlopement hurling team went to Antrim last weekend to play Antrim in HURLING , they played in UUJ on an unmarked RUGBY pitch no nets no lines marked , you see the goalmouths were being reseeded on the GAA pitches . The difference between us and yourselves isn't in euros we get the basics right . Maybe when you can address such fundamental errors you should be allowed more access to the cookie jar .
Stupid thread .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 27/04/2015 13:46:01    1717975

All joking aside Joker (terrible pun I know) Munster is stronger than Leinster. Cork had a bad day yesterday but we all know they are closer to Dublin than any other county in Leinster. Tipp and Clare would give anyone in Leinster outside Dublin a good rattle too...

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/04/2015 13:51:33    1717982