On current form i'd fancy Cork for the division one decider.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 23/04/2015 21:38:36    1716912

Interesting quote from Barney Rock ahead of Sunday's league final:

"Cork beat Dublin (0-12 to 1-7) in a League final in 1999 down in Cork so these two teams always seem to play good football...
They always want to do that and they tend to be very good matches."

Would such a score line today be as celebrated?
If defences and systems are de rigueur then skills and scoring ability must also have improved as the scoreline will undoubtedly exceed this.
Watching the '99 final back with an open mind will alarm many, we tend to look back with rose tinted specs...the level of mistakes and misplaced passes would not be tolerated.
They were the best of their times and we enjoyed it then but the skills and athleticism on Sunday will be much better

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 24/04/2015 10:03:57    1716987

Four interesting games ahead, I'll go for this select foursome......

Div 1: Cork
Div 2: Roscommon
Div 3: Fermanagh
Div 4: Offaly

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 24/04/2015 10:44:36    1717017

tyronetim

that 99 final was a woeful game
the weather was dire too but the football was very poor that day
also know dublin had one or two players availing of the half time break for more than a sip of water that day
which certainly wasnt nice to see

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/04/2015 11:20:06    1717043

You're kidding you seen that?
Times have changed...the game and the skills will be much better.

Odd Barney chose that game, his quote is inherently contradictory.

Based on what I seen this year Cork impressed me immensely and would be my favourites the AI. They kicked points through little gaps and from distance.
Dublin will be stronger and a different team if MDM is fit

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 24/04/2015 11:35:15    1717057

ah tim I was just beggining to like you and then you went and blew it
mdma has been fit for the last 18 months and what has he done?
hes been out of form completly
what is it with people this guy comes out smelling of roses no matter how little he does
he needs to get back to his 2013 form or else he wont be in the team this year
as if he doesnt be a bundle of energy and up and down the pitch
hes pointless being on the pitch as his football skills are shocking for somebody at that level

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/04/2015 12:16:21    1717083

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On current form i'd fancy Cork for the division one decider.

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Have to agree I'm afraid

Cork are a very impressive outfit

Considering the amount of new players Dublin have blooded, given the chance to perform, players playing in different positions, complete over haul of tactics, different forms of such in each game, players being injured only coming back, well below their high standards

Dublin have done very well to reach another final and put themselves in a position of winning 3 in a row

I don't think it was in anyway part of Jim Gavin's ambitions at the start of the year... especially with the experimental lineups/ tactics deployed throughout the league...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2015 12:37:32    1717091

Yes, '99 League Final = worse final ever

No atmosphere, terrible weather and poor football!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 24/04/2015 12:39:11    1717092

for all that cork have impressed and dublin have been in a said "process" of running the panel
the match in pairc ui rinn was dublins for the taking
they had got on top of cork and looked ready to win it and went two points clear
before gavin decided he had seen enough and took off 4 of our best performers that day
and threw in four really inexperienced guys all at once
if he had of left things the way they were at that stage id say we would have won by 4 or 5 points
despite all that I thought cork looked far better against donegal in croke park
than pairc ui rinn against dublin
so maybe the bigger pitch suits there style more
very hard to call this game without knowing what team gavin will play

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/04/2015 13:12:51    1717101

Just looking there, Cork @ 9/4???
I'd say that'll have a few takers!!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 24/04/2015 13:15:13    1717103

Div 1: Cork
Div 2: Down
Div 3: Armagh
Div 4: Longford

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 24/04/2015 13:29:50    1717112

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised by a 10+ win for Dublin.

Would be gobsmacked if Cork win this.

besidetheditch (Dublin) - Posts: 81 - 24/04/2015 19:02:40    1717246

Cork should sneak this one.That is as long as they don't have to catch a train.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 24/04/2015 19:24:43    1717248

Jaysus Hill...what'll I do

I assumed he was injured because on form he's a force of nature. He's a big lump but gets up and down like a man half his size. You've watched him more so I'll take your word for it but Dublin's midfield with O'Sullivan and Bastick doesn't instil fear...Corks midfield is similar with Goold and Cadogan not natural midfielders.
Alan O'Connor will help when integrated.
Haven't seen the Dublin team yet ...like to see McHugh at some point...rate him highly

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 24/04/2015 19:29:02    1717250

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Jaysus Hill...what'll I do

I assumed he was injured because on form he's a force of nature. He's a big lump but gets up and down like a man half his size. You've watched him more so I'll take your word for it but Dublin's midfield with O'Sullivan and Bastick doesn't instil fear...Corks midfield is similar with Goold and Cadogan not natural midfielders.
Alan O'Connor will help when integrated.
Haven't seen the Dublin team yet ...like to see McHugh at some point...rate him highly

doubt mchugh will be involved this year
has had plenty of games to give him a run at this stage and only played last 15 minutes against cork on the opening day
o sullivan has not been in form either
but bastick is a definate starter
been along with mccafrey our best performer this year
mccauley was badly exposed twice last year
first half against cork in league semi final and the entire match against donegal in all ireland semi final
our mdifeld last year was built around an all action packed getting up and back and working hard
gavin seems to have changed that this year and gone for a more settled look with bastick and an other as we speak

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/04/2015 20:45:02    1717261

1. Dublin by 1....very shaky without EOG and the other weakness this year is over relying on Rock for frees....no way for SAM

2. Roscommon by 3......a reflex to losing u21 last weekend

3. Armagh by 1...most overrated of the pretenders

4. Offaly....they have a little bit of tradition left as a tie breaker

Oiche mhaith

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1670 - 24/04/2015 21:17:03    1717266

Div 1 - Dublin
Div 2 - Roscommon
Div 3 - Fermanagh
Div 4 - Offaly

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 25/04/2015 12:39:36    1717339

Colm O'Neill is without doubt one of the games superstars. Given his comeback from a 3rd cruciate most neutrals love to see him back to his best. When he speaks you'd tend to give credence to him as well given his status but his honesty here is really refreshing given the pervasive hypocrisy among GAA counties these days.

"Donegal probably get hammered more than anyone for their style. They still get the brunt of it for some reason as the team that's the most defensive, but our semi-final against them was quite open.

"We'd be very disappointed as a team with the amount of scores we conceded. And Donegal might easily have got another 2-3. Look, I think every team is probably a bit more defensive this year.

"I mean there was a lot of attention on the Dublin-Derry game in this League, with the reaction to it afterwards on Twitter. I suspect that both teams just set up defensively. And who is to say Dublin aren't going to set up defensively against us now?

"After what happened them against Donegal last year, I think they realised they probably had to change. So that's something we're going to have to be prepared for.

"A lot of people seem to think it's going to be a very open, free-flowing game. But they might be surprised!"

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 25/04/2015 20:10:32    1717430

Missed todays predictions but would have gone for Armagh and Offaly.

I will go for Down and Cork tomorrow

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/04/2015 20:57:13    1717449

Yes I missed today's too, I also would have went for Armagh and Offaly, and I'll tell you what my predictions for Div 1 & 2 are at this time tomorrow :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 25/04/2015 21:15:18    1717457