bricktop, sure, why not, I don't know why Rupert Murdoch gets such a bad rap, his sky dishes have been bringing news, sports, entertainment and porn into people's homes for years, he can't be that bad of a guy.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/04/2015 11:34:34    1715034

zinny
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1714864 Take the money aspect out of it and ask the question if you were naming the grounds would you call it Croke Park? you have to wonder, as people naming goes there are far more important people responsible for the formation and success of the GAA than Archbishop Croke. The grounds were named in an era of reverence to the CC - should it now be off limits to the GAA to assess its own past - as I said nothing to do with money just throwing the question out there.


Your not wrong , however logic in asking if Croke is deserving of the honour , then you could ask is Sam Maguire the best person to name our premier football completion after ?
I think the name Croke Park has grown beyond the man , the name is a symbol , a heritage as is Sam Maguire , its as much what they stand for , the hair on your neck standing up when abroad and some starts talking about Croke Park , its emotive .Its part of our indemnity . Leave well alone .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 17/04/2015 11:53:40    1715043

Of course, you could just airbrush everyone out of the past if you dont like them. Like the communists did in Russia, in between killing 70 milllion people.
Great lads altogether, any more tricks we can learn from them?

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 17/04/2015 16:12:13    1715119

Let me start a petition for Rupert Murdoch park. Brilliant idea.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/04/2015 17:19:42    1715130

Damo I agree with you, the name of the stadium is not about who it was named after but the idea it represents today, I remember the time it was being redeveloped and having a ticket in my hand that said the new stand, I was thinking to myself this is not right I don't want them to change the name of the stand - thankfully they didn't. You take the example of the MCG - not named after anyone but invokes the same memories and hairs down the spine as a big day as Croker. That said we are heading in an era where importance is placed on the competition because of sponsorship rather than name of the trophy. How long before the same happens with the name of the stadium - the importance becomes on the location rather than the name and that could be any name. That at the end of the day was what Duffy was expressing things progress and we don't know what the future holds.I can only remember seeing the All Ireland Semis on the TV in Black and White - now the country is in uproar over a few games being given to sky and only being able to see 30 on RTE!

flack - we are pretty good ourselves at airbrushing out unwanted history when it doesn't suit, its not a trait that the Communists have a monopoly on.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1805 - 17/04/2015 17:30:25    1715132

Maybe Tayto Park would work. Or Tayto Croke Park. Or Tayto Park Parc Tailtean (for the royal boys).
Whatever happened to Puma O'Moore Park? That seemed likely a few years back.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 17/04/2015 17:48:37    1715137

Because of the sky deal I've already began to walk away from the gaa, but the vibes tell me HQ's sent out this mad idea to test the waters,
to get a feed back just to see if the people would buy into it as opposed to pushing it through like the sky deal issue. An alternative name imo if any would be - " Duffy's Circus".

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 17/04/2015 20:43:51    1715174

Supersub you started to walk away from Gaa because of a deal they done with a broadcaster, I have to ask if you can walk away so easily were you even that big of a fan in the first place? I love our games and I'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming away from them. Also if you're no longer a big Gaa fan then why would Croke Park naming rights even bother you?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/04/2015 20:52:47    1715176

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Firstly I didn't expect my post to get a response,however to answer your question, I never considered my self to be a gaa fan, but I always consider my self to be a passionate gaa supporter/member, yes I did say I started to walk away, however I never said I had finished walking.

The sky deal will always be an issue with me simply because of the way it was put through, in my opinion for what that's worth it should have been put through congress and put to all clubs for a vote to be taken. Lesser important issues would have gone through that procedure.

I don't particularly wish to expand this topic, but do you honestly think that should HQ's decide to sell off the naming rights to Croke Park (after the sky deal issue) that two people would sign it off.??


There are some things within the gaa that I consider to be untouchable, I think that's worth a thought.

Finally, I wouldn't swap/change my club or county for all the silver ware in Queensland, I hope this meets with your satisfaction.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 17/04/2015 21:53:46    1715193

If you look at it logically then yes,sell the rights and take the money but is that all it means at the end of the day really. Surely there are some things that because they are part of your history and where you are from should mean more than a payday. If everything is for sale then some things become more devalued than others.They somehow don't seem as they did before. Croke park is an icon and some things should be sacred.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 18/04/2015 09:25:15    1715201

supersub15

I never considered my self to be a gaa fan, but I always consider my self to be a passionate gaa supporter/member

There's not much difference there to be fair and I'm not too concerned about exactly how many steps you've taken away from the Gaa, that's your own business.

The sky deal will always be an issue with me simply because of the way it was put through, in my opinion for what that's worth it should have been put through congress and put to all clubs for a vote to be taken.

Fair enough if that's your opinion I respect that, but what if it was put through congress and it passed anyway, would you feel any different towards the Sky deal?

do you honestly think that should HQ's decide to sell off the naming rights to Croke Park (after the sky deal issue) that two people would sign it off.??

I don't know but I'd imagine it wouldn't be a popular decision, again I'm by no means a traditionalist nor do I hold deep attachment to the past but even I would prefer to see Croke Park remain Croke Park, but I am saying that if it was changed it wouldn't kill me, nor would I start walking away.

Finally, I wouldn't swap/change my club or county for all the silver ware in Queensland, I hope this meets with your satisfaction.

Aw you have me blushing now supersub15, I didn't now you were trying to satisfy me, but yes yes I'm satisfied.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 18/04/2015 10:32:58    1715213

There's alot of corportate naming of stadiums in the States. The NY Mets have Citi Field from Citi Bank. Every time I hear the name it reminds me of how they helped caused the financial crisis.

Corporate names are a dime a dozen. They come and go as companies make the highest bid or goes out of business or is taken over by a bigger corporation. I think Croke Park should remain Croke Park or a another GAA historical name if ye so choose.

mikeyjoe (USA) - Posts: 415 - 18/04/2015 13:36:23    1715237

The genie was let out of the bottle with the SKY deal and this too will eventually happen. The GAA will huff and puff BUT will not deny it and when the time and money is right they will pounce. The fans and counties won"t be consulted and it will be steamrolled through. I have also said in the past that you will see SKY eventually flexing their corporate, financial muscle and demanding sole broadcasting GAA rights in the UK AND the North. Already people in the North CAN'T watch the Ireland soccer matches on RTE, they are blanked out. I can see the same thing happening with Gaelic Games. There are too many people making money AND too many full time GAA salaries to be paid for all of this NOT to happen. Vested interests amd commercial deals will always take precedence.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 18/04/2015 13:58:51    1715244

could have some fun with this how about Coca cola Croke park - or Coke Park
Irn Bru Brewster PArk --McDonalds McHale Park--The Gael Linn Gaelic Grounds--Tayyo Pairc Tailteann ---Walsh Windows Walsh Park -Ford Wexford Park

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 21/04/2015 10:54:56    1715920