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Dublin were definitely more impressive than Cork yesterday but somehow contrived to lose....hats off to Cork, for hanging in there! What's the story with Danny Sutcliffe at the moment? He was a loss, surely. Fair play to Waterford also on a magnificent display. What odds before the NHL on a Division 1B team winning the league?!?!

He was kitted out, did the full warm up and then about 3 mins before throw in he was taken to the sideline, didn't think too much of it as he usually disappears with the physio for a few mins before the game but then spotted him putting on a tracksuit just before throw in - knew then he was a no go. You'd have to wonder what way the result would have gone had he played.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 20/04/2015 15:34:25    1715775

Have to say cork rode there luck yesterday,but dont buy into the theory that dublin did not collapse and ref won cork game that seems a bit of sour grapes from people,Cork have a bit of work to do but not much. I see some people are not happy with cahalane and i would agree with that but it is league and i think jimmy will have learnt a bit from yesterday[i hope so anyway]

monkstownrebel1 (Cork) - Posts: 351 - 20/04/2015 16:41:45    1715794

Cork in both National League finals is a big acheivement.
They shouldn't have too much trouble in the football, but the hurling against w

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 20/04/2015 18:39:30    1715829

Youd be disappointed if a minor team gave away the lead we gave away , for a senior team with seasoned players to do it well that's just inexcusable , posters would be quick to slate Dalo if he were still in charge and this happened , no , this one is on the players shoulders. There was a time whem our footballers were not street smart , we became winners when we became so , hurlers need to do the same .Congrats Cork .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/04/2015 08:58:00    1715884

Dublin are slowly getting there, bar the Tipp game they've had a good league campaign, they are shaping up nicely and are disappointed with losing against Cork, should have seen out the game, in a tight game a call either way usually decide it and it did so in this game. But it will all come good and I for one am looking forward to the championship - unlike a lot of teams.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 21/04/2015 11:36:15    1715936

Jesus these Cork players like the sound of there own voices there all coming on now with quotes from there lucky win on Sunday, surely they should be keeping quiet and trying to figure out how they went 12 points down to a Dublin that loughnane says is no use and has no hurling skill.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/04/2015 12:26:54    1715964

They won the Tipp game arock? Assume you mean the Cork game in Croke Park?

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 21/04/2015 12:44:47    1715984

Couldn't agree more clondalkindub.

Anyone else think the below comment comes across as quite disrespectful to the Dublin hurlers? Not to mention arrogant.

"they could have had 20 men on the pitch, [but] they wouldn't have stopped us. It was just constant.

"They couldn't stop it, they did everything they could to do that and they couldn't, so there is a lot of credit due to us for that."

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 21/04/2015 12:47:25    1715988

Terribly disappointed at the finish, hard to believe we had lost after leading for nearly the whole game. No point in blaming anybody else for the defeat, we had our destiny in our own hands and let it slip away. There was a strong breeze blowing down the field favouring Dublin in the first half, so Cork were always going to come back at us when it was their turn to have the wind behind them in the second half. Still with six minutes left and six points up you would have expected us to hold out, but once Cork got the goal, and with momentum behind them, they were going to be very hard to stop. Think Dublin badly need Joey Boland, Michael Carton, and Danny Sutcliffe back to full fitness when we face Galway on 31 May. If we beat them this game will be forgotten, but it is worrying the way we are losing games after building up substantial leads.

clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 21/04/2015 12:58:26    1715996

Good comments Clonjon , especially re players missing ,
As for the Cork comments re 20 points up etc , theres only one way to answer those comments , its not in fromt of a keyboard or a mic , keep it in your top pocket till next time , and who knows next time could be this summer .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/04/2015 13:15:00    1716000

I have to say I think a lot of the blame lies with the sideline. It was glaring how our half forward line was getting cleared out of it in the 2nd half yet nothing changed. Keaney and Crummey were out on there feet with 10 minutes to go yet no change.

Look theres question marks over the players letting that lead slip Jesus some of teh wides we hit!! But the management need to put there hands up to, I actually think I posted that before about them being slow reacting/changing things

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 21/04/2015 13:38:37    1716011

I would have thought at the start of the second half with Dublin defending a nine point lead, and playing into the stiff breeze, that the thing to do would be to drop Liam Rush back to play as sweeper, which would have relieved a lot of pressure on our half back line and given the Cork forwards a lot less room to cut into our lead.

clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 21/04/2015 14:58:41    1716043

Brianmac78
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1716011 I have to say I think a lot of the blame lies with the sideline. It was glaring how our half forward line was getting cleared out of it in the 2nd half yet nothing changed. Keaney and Crummey were out on there feet with 10 minutes to go yet no change.

Look theres question marks over the players letting that lead slip Jesus some of teh wides we hit!! But the management need to put there hands up to, I actually think I posted that before about them being slow reacting/changing things

Just a question , and it happens in the football also [ v Donegal 14 ] , why are we so quick to blame management ? Daly took some stick when we lost games , now Cunningham , and previously Caffrey , and Gavin last year in football , indeed when we lost to Cork in the league in football Gavin came in for stick .
Are we quick to lump blame on management ? Not saying your nessecarily wrong in the incident Brianmac78

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/04/2015 15:08:52    1716050

100% agree Damo the minute a team losing its all the managers fault, 6 minutes to go Cork fans were leaving the ground the game looked over then Cork get the goal and all the momentum that comes with it so there's very little management can do to stop it no matter what they do.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/04/2015 15:44:12    1716066

At this level Damo when management teams have fellas up in the stands communicating things back theres no way they couldnt have realised that there half forward line was losing out and that became teh springboard for Cork. We didnt make a change we just went along hoping or maybe assumingthe half forwards would get a grip back on the game.

Im not saying they are soley responsible for dropping a 10 point lead far from it, I do believe they either are too slow to change things, to stubborn to change things, too slow to see things or mmaybe dont trust some of tehre squad to be good enough to turn things around. Why no Cian Boland or Plunkett at some point Sunday to inject fereshness and pace into the attack and try to stem Corks half backs?

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 21/04/2015 16:02:53    1716075

I don't think Pat Horgan is being arrogant when he states that "20 Dubs couldn't have stopped us"
He is a forward on top of his game, supremely confident and this shouldn't be mistaken with arrogance.
Confidence is a key factor in any corner forward's performance, and right now Horgan is playing as well as I have seen any corner forward play.
He is skillful, a ballwinner and a supreme freetaker.
In saying that, waterford are good with an excellent defensive strategy and they will be tough to beat.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 21/04/2015 16:13:11    1716081

Thoroughly enjoyed the 2 games from the comfort of my siting room for once. Didn't have the stomach to travel to Kilkenny on Sunday. Not beer related!!!

Dublin I feel thought they probably had weathered the storm but the Cork goal was the killer. Dublin hitting lots of wides didn't help and that normally goes against you unless your luck is really in. However I think Dublin should be happy overall with their league campaign. With Cork its hard to know in my opinion what to make of them. They let a 12 point lead slip against Tipp and lose by a point then they do the complete opposite a few weeks later down by 12 and win by a point.Big year for this Cork team they need more than a NHL league & Munster as I felt they had a great chance last year. Full back line needs some repair work.

Waterford were awesome hurled Tipp off the park. Now no excuses but Tipp were just suffocated every time they got the ball. No space for any forward. Wing backs shooting and missing score able chances just shows how bad Tipp really were. We needed our center back to get the equalizer. How G.R. didn't know the rules of hurling taking that side line. Why the hell did he not just cut it across the 21 yard line and hope for the best. Decision making was terrible. I'm probably happy we got beaten as this Tipp team needed a kick up the behind. 8 weeks now to prepare for a Munster Semi Final somewhere where we failed in the last 2 years.We should be rearing for road come June. Waterford I hope have not played their best hurling yet. Nice to see them back but they were close to their Championship 15 I'd say where as Tipp still have a lot of players to come back and lots of them are lacking game time. Perhaps the training camp in Spain drained them somewhat but that should not be used an excuse.

Out of the 4 teams Tipp's performance was the most disappointing.However I expect them to come out fighting as its easier to recover from a Semi Final loss than a Final loss and had we gone onto the league final and lost to Cork that would damage confidence big time. Tipp may have topped the table in the group stages but they were not the best team in the group stages lots of paper cracks again and these got exposed on Sunday.If Offaly had half a decent team or kept the scoreline tighter in the QF they would have beaten Tipp. Just my opinion.

Best of luck to Cork & Waterford in the final.Refreshing to see a change other than Tipp & Kilkenny do battle at the final hurdle. First time since 1998 I believe and we all know what happened that year!! Waterford got to a Munster Final and Offaly won the AI from no where!!!! Long may the re-resurgence continue!!

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 21/04/2015 17:11:32    1716108

Had a look at the tape last night, painful to watch. Dublin made a huge amount of mistakes in the last ten minutes including a Dublin player loosing the ball in midfield that led to the Cork goal, but I suppose mistakes will happen, and especially when you are very tired, and some of the Dubs looked out on their feet. Will be interesting to see how Cork and Waterford go in the final.

clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 22/04/2015 17:03:09    1716467