Moron, no sickener for me one bit, we know we scored a goal for Roscommon, kicked 20 wides in Hyde and still only lost by 2 points, meaths worst display of league and we still managed to end up on same points, don't worry lad Meath will be involved in championship when the rossies are on hols.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/04/2015 19:10:17    1713386

http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2015/0322/688926-roscommon-v-meath/

Ye actually kicked 11 wides
Exaggeration is your middle name

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 12/04/2015 19:21:36    1713398

As mentioned earlier leinster is primarily a hurling province. Dublin and kk in 1a. Laois offaly wexford in 1b. kildare christy ring champs.Kilkenny all Ireland champs. So I think the overall gaa standard in Leinster is way ahead of connacht and Ulster. Munster maybe ahead overall

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 12/04/2015 19:24:37    1713400

Royaldunne we both have handy enough draws in our provinces yet we are 33/1 and ye are 50/1 the top 5 and probably 8 teams don't fear us we both have a lot to do can't you give it a break and let what will be, be.
Best of luck to ye in championship now concentrate on meath and we will concentrate on London.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 12/04/2015 19:30:02    1713404

Well that person musnt have been at match. Kicked TWENTY WIDES. just incase you think otherwise.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/04/2015 19:44:46    1713410

What's this common misconception that kildare were a Leinster power house. They havnt won Sam since the late twenties and have won 2 leinsters in last 60 odd years or something. I know geezer had them going well but surely u need a far better record then that too be considered a traditionaly strong team. I know alot of kildare people and they say before micko came the 2nd time they were actually a bit of a laughing stock within the county even. Dublin and Meath the only show in town when it came too winning trophies consistantly..with the odd offaly spell,

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 12/04/2015 20:00:31    1713415

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As long as Dublin are successful NO ONE within the Leinster Council, Croke Park or media will give a monkeys about the other Leinster teams. The Dubs are the cash cow and while the tills keep ringing the rest can go hang as far as the GAA is concerned.

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Surely it's up to the respective county boards to 'give a monkeys'. Granted revenue spun from Dublin games presumably contributes handsomely to the coffers of other counties inside and outside of Leinster but surely when it comes to purely footballing matters the onus is on the county boards to make their senior teams competitive.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/04/2015 20:01:10    1713416

Indeed otbar . Best of luck to you, the league is over and will mean nothing if either of us win a provincial title. Best wishes to you.
Yeah Kildare were never really a powerhouse under mcgeeny in Leinster, they only reached one provincial decider under him, less than Meath and Wexford, same as Louth, it was the back door where they shun

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/04/2015 20:26:23    1713427

Joxer , the Leinster council need the money that Dublin generates.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/04/2015 20:29:41    1713431

Agree with Southmeathgael and I have also pointed out some of his points.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/04/2015 20:44:40    1713436

These ups and downs for all counties go in cycles. It will change, Kildare and Meath have vibrant GAA clubs I have no doubt Meath will come good in next two years, by good I mean competing and on an upward curve. Kildare have huge potential, it all just appears one sided at the moment but I am certain this Dublin dominence will change.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 12/04/2015 20:48:13    1713438

Joxer, that's like two armies going into battle one with only spears and shields and the other with tanks, guns and RPG's. The heavily armed one obliterates the other then says 'Well that's not my problem, it's up to you to match me'. The fact is that the Leinster Championship is a total non event because EVERYTHING is weighted in Dublin's favour. How can Louth or Carlow EVER be expected to compete on a level playing field with Dublin? It's a nonsense; it's NOT the way some teams are playing that's affecting the game, it's the massive unfairness going on. I have asked the question 'How much has the second biggest county population wise, Antrim, received in recent times compared to Dublin or Cork? It wouldn't be unfair to say that the GAA is now ONLY really about Dublin and Kerry in the football and a few established hurling counties.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 12/04/2015 20:53:29    1713441

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Joxer, that's like two armies going into battle one with only spears and shields and the other with tanks, guns and RPG's. The heavily armed one obliterates the other then says 'Well that's not my problem, it's up to you to match me'. The fact is that the Leinster Championship is a total non event because EVERYTHING is weighted in Dublin's favour. How can Louth or Carlow EVER be expected to compete on a level playing field with Dublin? It's a nonsense; it's NOT the way some teams are playing that's affecting the game, it's the massive unfairness going on. I have asked the question 'How much has the second biggest county population wise, Antrim, received in recent times compared to Dublin or Cork? It wouldn't be unfair to say that the GAA is now ONLY really about Dublin and Kerry in the football and a few established hurling counties.

Like certain other firebrands, facts arent relevant in your rants just the same illinformed views regurgetated all the time.
Louth or Carlow have never been on a level playing field with Dublin since Gaa Began. And no money will change that.
You see sometimes hard work at juvenile level can pay off and not just the poor mouth of always blaming someone else for your ills.
Maybe you should look at what a small hurling area in Kerry can produce with hard work ,

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 12/04/2015 21:39:53    1713486

So it isn't a fact that Dublin received roughly 1.7 million Euros from Croke Park last year while the likes of Tyrone only received 50 odd thousand??? Of course you and other Dublin fans will not complain about the status quo, it doesn't suit you to bite the hand that feeds you. I know Antrim have serious internal problems but give us JUST a fraction of what Dublin receive for coaching and infrastructure and maybe we will make a fist of it. Even the other Leinster fans on HS are highlighting the massive injustice and unfairness at play within the GAA, ALL weighted in Dublin's favour; millions from the GAA, home advantage in most games, a compliant worshipping media and massive advertising revenue......and you STILL deny it's NOT a level playing field. Dearie, dearie me! There are none so blind as those that cannot see.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 12/04/2015 21:57:00    1713505

Dublin would beat the pick of Leinster at the moment. The province has begun to mimic the way Kilkenny dominated the province in Hurling for the past 15 years. It doesn't help that Dublin play every championship and home league game in Croke Park! Meath the likely contender to take on the Dubs haven't been in the reckoning to win Sam for at least a decade. Meath's challenge of the Dubs almost gave the other Leinster counties hope, seeing them dismantled so easily each year has just destroyed any sense of hope amongst the rest.
Kildare whilst never really genuine All Ireland contenders tended to give the Dubs a decent game and ironically have a 50/50 record against Meath in the Championship. Laois and Westmeath's excellent underage structures seem to have dried up. The outrageous talent of the likes of Mattie Ford and Paddy Keenan that drove the likes of Wexford and Louth are no longer. Counties like Carlow, Longford and Wicklow will always struggle for GAA playing numbers whilst Offaly are pretty much dormant these days. All in all the province has never been at such a low ebb and this lack of genuine championship hope has created a general apathy to the game in Leinster resulting in poor league and qualifier performances.
I think the Leinster council needs to take a serious look at things and pay attention to the forgotten 11 with underage task forces, improving schools football and ensuring monies are distributed a little more fairly.

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 13/04/2015 10:06:08    1713565

Council priorities seem to be financial. They really don't seem to care as long as they are financially okay.
Here in Hervey Bay, Queensland we have Auskick. For $60 my 9 year old gets a footy kit which includes a ball, pump, bag ,pencil case, drink bottle and discount tickets to AFL matches and clinics for after school once or twice a week for 8 weeks. He is very excited when he comes home with his kit.
Just feel the Leinster council should be doing this in targeted areas in hurling especially.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 13/04/2015 11:36:16    1713629

Council priorities seem to be financial. They really don't seem to care as long as they are financially okay.
Here in Hervey Bay, Queensland we have Auskick. For $60 my 9 year old gets a footy kit which includes a ball, pump, bag ,pencil case, drink bottle and and clinics after school once or twice a week for 8 weeks. He is very excited when he comes home with his kit. Also includes discount tickets to AFL games.
Just feel the Leinster council should be doing this in targeted areas in hurling especially.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 13/04/2015 11:38:01    1713631

Ulsterman , Dublin clearly have advantages over a hell of a lot of counties, We have more clubs to pick from and generally good trainng facilities.(kerry, Mayo, Cork wouldnt be lacking in this department either) We also have Croker for leinster campaign , which id like to be changed in early rounds.
but we have also more diversity and battles to get young people into GAA and keep them there. This is where i feel we get no credit.
Our minors and u21s are sucessful now , not because of AIG OR Vodafone . But because of hard graft on the part of coaches and long hours devising systems of coaching that will try and get more youths involved in GAA in Dublin and keep them in the system as they get older, off course better facilities in the intercounty set up helps. But we can only do our bit.

The way the provincial championship is run mean the competition is always weighted in favour of the counties with the most clubs o (not neccessarily population).. Which does nobody any favours , it has always been this way although it doesnt make it right.
Longford , Carlow are definetly not able to compete with Dublin . But they never will.
Its like putting Tranmere , Southend ,in the same knockout section as Liverpool every year ( with no transfer system) and then demanding an equality of sorts in the interest of competition.
Longford poster made some good points, its posters from the samller counties in leinster that should be telling us what their views are on this topic.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 13/04/2015 12:38:16    1713688

It's not just Leinster, and it's no demise it's always been bad. Coaching is a major issue as an underage coach myself I can see how we are failing young players. By the age of 12 a player should have all the skills, I see 14 year olds barely able to solo the ball, bad counties tend to have bad structures and bad coaches. There is very little in terms of accountability when it comes to coaching, personally I feel clubs need to be assessed regularly and should have plans that they can show their actually following. There is an emphasis on participation but not on the quality and that to me is why bad counties will always be bad

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1595 - 13/04/2015 15:49:18    1713787

Speaking for myself and also from talking to people I know involved in county teams around Leinster, there is a growing sense that this whole thing is becoming a waste of time.
I don't doubt the hard work being done in Dublin for the last decade, and I take my hat off to what they've produced. But there are huge advantages from the sponsorship money coming in. The number of full time coaches who can go around the schools is something to be envied. Like any sport (Chelsea, Man City in EPL, Toulon in Heineken Cup) the teams with the biggest resources will come to the top. That is what we are seeing now in football. Mayo, Dublin, Donegal, Kerry and Cork appear to have the kind of backing that has pushed them to a level that the rest have very little hope of matching. In fairness, when Meath had a successful run in the 90s, we had very generous support from Kepak. Pre-sponsorship it was probably a fairer set-up in that everyone was working with similar resources (financial). But that ship has sailed now.
The structure of the Championship is also set up in favour of the big guns. For instance last year if Meath had managed to pull a surprise on Dublin in the Leinster final they would have been scheduled to meet again in an All Ireland semi final where it would be unlikely to happen a second time. How many times in the noughties did Cork think they had broken Kerry in Munster only to come up against them later on and lose? The qualifiers have failed in that all they have succeeded in doing is ring fencing the Sam Maguire for the elite bunch.
I still keep an eye on the inter county stuff, out of habit, but club football is where it's at now.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 13/04/2015 15:59:05    1713794