this guy is a complete clown and should not be afforded even publicity on this forum....off course mickey harte is not in the business of entertainment,,,and of course brolly only has a blinkered view of what is entertaining...i don't want to watch a game where teams knock the ball over the bar for fun...good teams can break down defensive tactics..kerry last year against donegal, tyrone against armagh in 2005, mayo against tyrone in 2013, mayo against dublin in 2012, dublin against kerry in 2011, etc etc...brolly lost the plot a long time ago...pathetic

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 31/03/2015 19:58:53    1709151

TheRightStuff
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I've no idea what you do when your not on HS but well done all the same . I can only judge by your comments and I think they are ludicrous . You actually once claimed that Meath had better players than us , now how can anyone take you serious ? Meath's behaviour on football pitches ' back in the day ' was more criminal than any blanket .

And you call RD's statements ludicrous!!! Cast your mind back to 1990 my friend and an All Ireland Semi Final between Meath & Donegal and I think you'll find that the physical element of that game was shared 50/50, maybe even with Donegal shading it. This is what I laugh at in recent years, any time anyone dares criticise the style of play or system of a northern team we get this continuos flow of crap about how Meath, Dublin, Kerry, Galway etc etc were all so negative and cynical "back in the day". Well I've been watching football for over 30 years now and I've been at provincial finals in all provinces, All Ireland Semi Finals and Finals dating back to 1982, League Finals and Club finals and never have I come close to seeing anything like the crap I've witnessed since 2011, now what we saw in the early noughties from Tyrone and Armagh wasn't wonderful but the last four years have been utter muck and at last a realisation is dawning on people that unless we shout stop now then the game is going to be on life support very shortly. Croke Park last Saturday night was a travesty, as was Dublin v Tyrone and Donegal v Monaghan. Now if that's the type of football that Mickey Harte and his selectors want to see their teams play them I respectfully suggest that they leave the stage or someone within their county board has the guts to give them all P45's. Never in my life did I think I would hear booing in Croke Park, especially in a game involving Dublin, but last Saturday night we got it in spades and then managers try and defend it and say it's not the style they want to see or play....... Sweet Jesus do they think were fools or what, certain managers have become so deluded that they are starting to believe the tripe they come out with and that is a real worrying sign as far as I'm concerned. So while people may criticise Joe for his method of communication, which is far easier to do than acknowledged the problem he raises, I agree with his opinions and his views on other managers, it's about time some of them got a kick up the arse.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 31/03/2015 20:03:07    1709153

Royaldunne is right you all try to justify this blanket defence rubbish by saying "sure if we went man to man we'd be destroy" so obviously you don't have players good enough to go man to man so Well said Royaldunne, yous can't have it everyway lads.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 31/03/2015 20:03:41    1709154

RoyalDunne, fair point as supporters of a county wee have the right to feel aggrieved with the tactics or performances of our county team but these public personalised attacks are not the way to go about things.

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 31/03/2015 20:07:50    1709157

Much ado about nothing......

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 31/03/2015 20:11:29    1709159

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You've shouted that stuff at Malachy O Rourke Richue ? When was that ? Would it have been on the days when his so called defensive Monaghan team scored 1-18, 0-20 or 2-16 against Meath ?

Green grass we were so naive and to be blatantly honest useless on those days that your own Louth probably would have put such scores past us, highlighting three scorelines against what was a poorly set up and uninspired Meath teams hardly proves your point, try harder.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 31/03/2015 20:11:35    1709160

meath offer nothing to football richie so stop talking nonsense...all meath offer nowadays is a team who gets comprehensively beaten by the dubs

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 31/03/2015 20:30:32    1709175

Richieq
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You've shouted that stuff at Malachy O Rourke Richue ? When was that ? Would it have been on the days when his so called defensive Monaghan team scored 1-18, 0-20 or 2-16 against Meath ?

Green grass we were so naive and to be blatantly honest useless on those days that your own Louth probably would have put such scores past us, highlighting three scorelines against what was a poorly set up and uninspired Meath teams hardly proves your point, try harder.

Richieq, Greengrass handed you your you know what on a plate there, suck it up.

Monaghan are well capable of running up big totals, they also know when you have to soak it up - there are 2 sides to the game.

And for those who seem to think Dublin were the best team last year, no they weren't. Kerry were the best team last year, 2nd best Donegal, not Dublin. That's why we play the actual games. All this talk of systems is bunk. If players can't think on their feet to break a "system" then they are not natural footballers and just following a system themselves. Hardly the halcyon days of football if they're all playing to a play book.

As for Brolly, he needs to shut it now. Harte was/is a great manager. He deserves respect. It's funny how the critics all come out of the woodwork when Tyrone are on a bit of a downer. No one would have had the guts to stick it to him when he was on the up. There are a still a few sore losers from the 2000s around I think.

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 31/03/2015 20:36:58    1709181

Downredhand. That's my problem with the way brolly went about it, too personal, its no way to highlight something that i for one am against, look Meath went man for man in Leinster final last year and got beat off the field, and ive often asked myself should we have put 15 behind the ball and keep score respectable, and i have to say no, id probably rip up my season ticket as i want to see my team playing the game.
Look there is nothing wrong with good defending Meath have a proud tradition of defenders jack Quinn, mick Lyons, Darren fay, martin o Connell, rob o malley, but i wouldn't have liked to seen Trevor Giles down in backline, even today id rate Donal keoghan as one of the best defenders in country, its just the 15 behind the ball that gets to me.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/03/2015 20:42:26    1709183

Brolly has said nothing that he hasn't already said dozens of times, with the only difference on this occasion being his choice of vocabulary. Personally, I think he is right, and I'll readily admit that I have no time for the type of game that Tyrone are playing.

It's just a shame that some other posters can't be as objective when it comes to discussing their own county (I'm talking about the AI champions of 1983, 1988, 1995, 1996 and 2011 - none of those winners are ever likely to be held up as poster-children for the beautiful game...)

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 31/03/2015 20:59:37    1709190

I like Brolly but he could have made his point without the crass words.No need for it.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 31/03/2015 21:10:50    1709198

Must be a full moon tonight when you have a DUB defending a Meath man........... And agreeing with him.......

ben1977 (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 31/03/2015 21:13:52    1709200

The Irish punters loves to hear Brolly, Spillane, Hook, Dunphy et al.
They dont take them too seriously but they love to listen to them.
The media moguls know this and thats why they are all given plenty of air time.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 31/03/2015 21:24:21    1709204

Richieq the last four years have been "muck"? Did you happen to see Galway v Kerry, Mayo v Cork, Armagh v Donegal, Donegal v Dublin or Kerry v Mayo (twice) last year ? All of those games were played in last years All-Ireland series and you have the gall to criticise those games as muck !! Wise up .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 31/03/2015 21:32:01    1709213

Green grass , what's that got to do with the price of potatoes???
Richieq excellent post. No one is doubting micky hartes credentials, but he is wrong when he says they not there to entertain, they are, what's the point of playing a game with not one supporter watching and just waiting on the results?? Its not sustainable, like it or not that's what we need.
IM going to be very careful how i put the following event as i don't want to make it plainly obvious who i am talking about as the individuals deserve not to be talked about on a public forum and whilst most people know the county i reside in it wouldn't take much research to find out.
So forgive me if i seem vague on the finer details.
I coach underage football awhile back my team reched a county final our opposition was a team we had beaten earlier in year.
My team had 2 polish 1 Nigerian 1 Latvian on the panel, there extended family came in their droves to the final, i mean majority of them aunts uncles friends within their respective communities etc, im not one that goes in for a whole lot of the proud Irish man thing , but that day i was one of the proudest people you could meet, showing off my game to a section of the world that otherwise would never have seen it, however my opposition coach decided to put 15 kids behind the ball, it was the most dreadful spectacle i have ever seen, these people had come they brought flags, (mostly made by themselves) shouted and cheered for their kids and even some clapped when other side scored, as it turned out in a very low scoring game we just won by a point, at end of game i reluctantly shook my opposite hand but pulling him close i told him in his ear that he was a effing disgrace. This is what blanket defensive tactics at senior inter county level has done, it means every Joe at any level in clubs thinks he can do a jimmy McGuinness on it, even when its kids playing, so after my initial pride after all i felt was disappointed despite winning.
And that's why something needs to be done about it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/03/2015 21:50:18    1709226

If Derry won Brolly would not have the same hissy fit

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 31/03/2015 21:50:49    1709227

Richieq the last four seasons have been muck ? Last year did you happen to see Gslway v Kerry, Armagh v Donegal, Mayo v Cork , Donegal v Dublin or Kerry v Mayo (twice) . All if those games took place in the All Ireland series . You have done gall to say the football was muck .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 31/03/2015 21:59:07    1709236

royaldunne : Colm O'Rourke has been for over 20 years the fairest, most balanced and least controversial of all Gaelic games panelists/writers . He has indeed written/said that fine tuned systems allows you win some matches without having the best players but at no stage did he write/say that Donegal or indeed any county were "the worst team ever to win an All Ireland" ... he is much too intelligent to say something so stupid.
Indeed if you wish to google it you can read his article from October 2012 "To win an All Ireland : you need great players"
When quoting the great man it is important that you do justice to one of your greatest players
#Navanabu

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 31/03/2015 22:03:48    1709239

Brolly appears to have a fixation with deadly diseases, Black Death, Ebola, Myxamatosis, whatever next, childhood leukaemia?

Suffice to say he would not be telling Mickey Harte to f*** off to his face no more than he would have questioned Sean Canvanaghs man hood to his unless it was from the comfort of a warm studio or behind his beloved keyboard and with his fan boys lapping up his every word. How many times have you seen a thread on here with the watch word "Joe Brolly was right", from all the usual suspects. I was hoping that no one would have started a thread on this however I'm not entirely surprised that it was by the poster concerned.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 01/04/2015 08:13:25    1709242

Muck ill repeat what colm O'Rourke said, "the worst team to ever win a all ire, proving that you no longer need the best players to win a all Ireland".

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Muck, Back down mate.

If Colm O'Rourke said it, it must be true wha!!! ;)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 01/04/2015 08:29:16    1709245