riverboys
County: Mayo
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Why would I do my homework sure I have a season ticket and anyway I wouldn't go and watch a soccer match, any gang that applauded a kick that was meant to be a shot on goal and hit the corner flag instead isn't a right sport no matter how much money is involved

well because I made a point about ticket prices being cheaper than other sports here
and I then proved that point and that tickets dont cost 15 euro unless you buy on the day
and you were the one who respnded to my original post

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/03/2015 09:50:44    1699691

spot on muckross
also has none of the rest of ye got a pair between ye?
ye are obviously talking about me being oppossed to sky deal but cant come out of the closets haha
you see I was oppossed to selling rights to games everybody could see for free and making them then have to pay a foreign
company to see our national sports how is that the same as agreeing with the logic that showing games
like dublin v carlow and kerry v waterford live on tv
will reduce the amount of people attending the game
its quite obvious it entices people who think them games will be one sided to stay at home and watch it.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/03/2015 09:54:53    1699693

i dont agree that it reduces attendances muckross...what sport reduces the number of games available on tv tell me?..tv blackouts in certain regions exist but not a whole lot else..its up to the gaa to get more people into these games...and change the championship structure and make it more appealing for people to attend..not the outdated backward nonsense at the minute...taking games off tv is not the answer as it reduces the exposure of the game...even more rugby will be shown with that kind of attitude

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 06/03/2015 20:06:09    1699964

I don't believe what he was talking about was to reduce the number of games on TV to get more people to the games that otherwise would have been on TV but rather they could have and impact on the attendance at club games. In that respect I would agree it does but the answer is not to have less games on the TV but for county boards to get their act together in respect to when they play their club championship.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1805 - 07/03/2015 09:18:34    1700003

fabio8
County: USA
Posts: 1564

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i dont agree that it reduces attendances muckross...what sport reduces the number of games available on tv tell me?.

Of course it reduces attendances, if there is a choice between watching on tv or going to a game then some, who might otherwise have gone to a live game, are going to opt for the tv.

As to other sports reducing the number of games, I can't answer that. Many other sports rely on tv money to pay professional wages, without it they are toast. The GAA is not in that game. I know the new President personally & if there was ever a grass roots man, he is it. His concern is that clubs will suffer financially & involvement wise if they have to compete with wall to wall championship games during the summer.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 07/03/2015 11:01:05    1700017

attendance at games is always dictated by price, facilities at the ground, promotion of the games.

Most GAA ground have poor facilities for the price charged.
If the GAA got their act together (like the rugby) and had stalls at all games selling food, drink, merchandise they would the games more family friendly.
They also need to consider covering a lot of the terraces at grounds with proper roofing. People like to go to games where they know the kids won't get soaked

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 07/03/2015 12:16:14    1700042

Valley. Agreed

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/03/2015 12:52:19    1700051

the games were reduced a few years ago muckross werent they?..i wonder did it effect attendances all that much?...dont agree with you that attendances will be affected as the games we are talking about are quite small and if you are from the counties involved you will generally go to the game....anybody who knows gaa knows the sport is uncomparable between on tv and going to it in person....knowing him personally doesnt mean his view is accurate...its not about money its about exposure..you are reducing the exposure of the game by limiting the number of games just so a few hundred people more go to the game at most...you cant think of another sport cause no other sport could come up with such nonsense...college sports in america are amateur i dont see them reducing the number of games they show....why cant the gaa come up with a change in championship structure instead of the black card just because sean cavanagh brought down mcmanus?...it is outdated and the interest outside ulster in the early rounds is gone....the idea is both backward and laughable

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 07/03/2015 12:59:18    1700054

exactly valley..instead of being backward and limiting the game you should look at improving things and making it more enticing..why cant the gaa come up with some ideas?..what else are they doing at all those meetings?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 07/03/2015 13:00:32    1700055

I'd rather terraces be left uncovered so you can go watch a game and enjoy the sunshine, rather than sitting under a sheet of galvanise with a pillar obstructing your view.Most grounds have plenty of covered seating to accommodate anyone worried about getting wet.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 07/03/2015 13:11:22    1700063

What an absolute red herring.

Attendances are down?? In comparison to what? Look at some of the attendances from the 1980's in the era directly before television became more prominent.
It's total bullshit. TV and TV exposure in general has been largely responsible for glamorizing the games and adding to attendances. Last year both All Ireland Hurling Semi finals drew in the guts of 130K people.
I'd say if you got 13K at a semi final back in the 80's you'd be doing well.
If attendances are down at local level then it should be the local unit's responsibility to promote and engage with the local community.
The easy way out is to blame the MEDJA. You would've thought that this was becoming a tired and old excuse at this stage.
And what kind of organization goes out of its way to reduce its television exposure?
In a time when athletics, basketball, snooker, boxing, cricket and even rugby are seriously struggling for profile and will do absolutely anything to get their 'product' on TV the GAA are WILLINGLY going down a road that ALL THESE OTHER organizations have been forced against their will.
It is the daftest thing I've ever heard.
Also to bear in mind is who will actually lose it if TV access is reduced. It won't be Cork, Dublin, Kilkenny, Kerry, Galway etc.
Because the Provincial finals, big qualifiers, Quarter finals, semi finals and finals will all still be shown,
The counties that will lose out will be the counties that actually need the exposure and the shop window the most.
Because the games that will get cut will be the likes of Sligo V Leitrim, Offaly V Longford, Cavan V Fermanagh.
The big boys will still all get plenty of airtime.

It is the daftest piece of guff I've heard for a long time and if I was a cynic I'd suggest was designed as a deflection from the Sky debate.

Bombdiggity (Cork) - Posts: 2 - 07/03/2015 13:35:05    1700070

what a stupid idea

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 07/03/2015 16:27:28    1700087

Agreed. Bad idea.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 07/03/2015 17:34:23    1700098

The fall in attendances is not due to the amount of games on TV. Its the poor state of the games, hurling is arguably in a better place but the current style of play in football makes it very difficult to justifying paying to watch it. The GAA will attribute falling attendances due to the amount of football on TV, so if they curtail that the argument goes the crowds flock back. But they won't and the grim reaper will be out for the games if attendances continue to fall. I loved nothing better than going to parnell park to watch matches but its damn tough shelling out the extra to go to Croke park with the crap served up yesterday its skull pounding boring.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 08/03/2015 16:16:49    1700382

disagree arock..many people bang on about how boring ulster style football is yet look at the attendances...its competitive therefore people go.....people dont have the same interest in the early rounds of the championship anymore outside of ulster....nobody wants to pay to see dublin win by 20 points v meath or wexford..including dub fans themselves..things should be freshened up

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 08/03/2015 19:23:36    1700495

If the GAA want larger crowds at League matches reducing TV coverage isn't the answer, they have to make entry to all Championship matches season ticket only, why should people who don't go to any game get a ticket for the AllIreland Final. If you attend 60% of games then you qualify for an AllIreland final ticket. No tickets should be sold to GAA clubs, let them by season tickets like everybody else that way they have to go to League games

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 28/03/2015 21:00:23    1707424

Or bring in a stubbs system like most clubs in the premier league.
You need a certain amount of stubbs to get away tickets or tickets for big games.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 28/03/2015 21:38:24    1707456

Agree,there should be something done to stop the bandwagoners taking tickets from more committed fans. As for ulster football being competitive ,well competitive is not what people got last night in Croke park. They got bored to death with the same rubbish we witnessed a couple of weeks back. OK ,Dublin struggled to get over the line but there was never any real chance Derry were going to win and thank god they didn't somehow manage it.Likewise for the Tyrone game.No ,I don't want to see 20 point wins in every game but I do expect to get something more entertaining than this rubbish when I shell out my money and go out to watch a game. This style of football is one sure way to discourage people attending games.As for, nothing beats being there ,well I'm sorry that's laughable as the match looked far better on TV than it did from the stand.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/03/2015 09:48:10    1707498

and what has 2 bad games got to do with ulster?..are you suggesting other counties dont set up defensively...leinster is going to be a pathetic championship yet again...look at the odds dublin are to win it for instance..tells you all you need to know about how interesting the competition is and i say this as somebody from leinster

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 29/03/2015 20:23:15    1708073