Haha, people comparing soccer (the greatest and most popular game on this planet) with gaelic football.

Blackcat (Galway) - Posts: 132 - 03/03/2015 10:51:49    1698603

Sure the black card will solve everything! Will eliminate cynical play. A referee smart enough to use it get rids of the offender only for a fresh sub to take their place. What kind of deterrent is that. Just going soft on inconsistent refereeing who don't use yellow and red cards as and when they should be. Refereeing is a damn tough job but can they not be a bit more consistent accross intercounty level.

Ulsterman, cynical play did not start in Ulster in the early 2000s.Has been around for decades. I agree that southern media loved to criticise Ulster teams, did Spillane first use the 'puke' football term? I think a lot of it was jealousy based on the success of Tyrone and Armagh. They could hit hard but they also played some great football.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/03/2015 11:35:15    1698618

Blackcat

Is that sarcasm?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2668 - 03/03/2015 12:50:45    1698675

Definately not.

Blackcat (Galway) - Posts: 132 - 03/03/2015 13:17:05    1698700

win at all costs is the new motto

HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 14/05/2015 10:03:19    1723461

Its a mirror image of society.Through the influence of the media people have become more cynical,more boring.

worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 339 - 14/05/2015 10:17:28    1723472

I think it's just the cup element of the championship. You know, like if you lose that's it another cup gone til next year! After all the training the lads put in all year there's no way they're gonna let somebody take a quick free that could potential cost them the game, they're gonna do everything they can to win it.

I think the natural rules of Soccer prevent it happening. In soccer you obviously can't slap a ball away from an opponent, because you'll get carded for handball you CAN however run into the corner with the ball but its very hard to keep the ball at your feet so not as effective as GAA just holding onto the ball. There's also yellow card accumulation in soccer but nothing of the sort in GAA so what does it matter in GAA if you get yellow carded in the 70 minute.

Rugby there's also natural rules to prevent cynicism. You can't just hold onto the ball in rugby you'll get penalized for not releasing that could potentially give the opponent a kick at goal/a kick to the 5 meter line/a run at your defence! The natural rules of rugby make it too risky for it to be cynical that's just the game.

GAA with its rules, referees, cup style element, mindset of the players! All of it adding up to give an almighty perfect storm of cynicism.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 14/05/2015 10:30:04    1723487

Hey blackcat, whats wrong with comparing gaelic football to soccer?
You see far more action at a football match than at a soccer match.
You could watch a soccer match for 90 mins and maybe see a couple of goals and a dodgy sending off.
It can be very boring most of the time.
Dont underestimate how important glamour is when discussing a sports popularity.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 15/05/2015 09:14:21    1723847

Interesting perspective Uncle Fester

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 15/05/2015 09:23:14    1723851

Easy to have a pop at kilflynn but what he is saying is correct. Football is slowly deteriorating into a damp squid. This win at all costs mentality is suffocating the life out of the game. The all ireland final last year was the worst game of football I've ever seen. There are guys on here who will defend football to the hills but they know themselves the sport as a spectacle has been nothing short of dreadful the past few years apart from a handful of games.

the_post (USA) - Posts: 184 - 15/05/2015 09:47:45    1723868

the-post, I found the 2004 and 2006 finals fairly crap. Good open football, and the result determined with an hour of the game to go.
I do agree though that moderrn football is missing soemthing. Its alot more functional and business like than it was before. The goose bumps I uesd to get watching games arent there anymore.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 15/05/2015 10:17:42    1723878

At the top level of sport cynicism is rife - watch any el Clasico game and you can see it from the first whistle.
The fact is that GAA players train so hard that any small advantage they can eek out on the field is going to be exploited. It's not very nice to see but it's the way of things unfortunately, even at club level.

I once heard of a young full back from a neighboring club who was due to mark the opposition's danger man. In the days before the match he did a quick bit of Facebook research on his opponent and discovered what his fiancee's name was. Needless to say her name was probably brought up on occasion during the match!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 15/05/2015 10:43:29    1723893

To my northern friends why try to drag Dublin into this ? poster is from Kerry .
Jumping the gun a tad .
Personally sick to death of these threads boring boring boring , looking forward to the games this week were I will watch Donegal v Tyrone , attend kids pheile , and fall in love all over again with the greatest sport in the world .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 15/05/2015 13:01:18    1723953

Cynical fouling!!! its tactical fouling.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 15/05/2015 14:54:10    1724026

what was wrong with either semi last year joncarter?...or cork mayo?....the bigger issue at present is the better sides not playing each other often enough and the gap between the best and the rest

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 15/05/2015 15:17:39    1724049

kilflynn
County: Kerry
Posts: 50

1697928 Not being a football man, I'll watch gaelic if its on. Some matches are exciting, but, more and more, they just put me to sleep. There are a few things I don't get about the modern game. Since when does a tackle mean hitting your man in the ribs with a closed fist? What is the story with knocking the ball from the hands of the free taker? Kicking the ball away from the team taking a line ball? Not releasing the ball on frees and line balls when the its clearly the other teams? Are these not penalties, like delaying the game? I get the mind games that goes on, but gaelic is looking more and more like thugball than football and it takes away from the game for me. Hurling is getting there, but its not as bad, yet. Tactics like these aren't manly, they're petty and cowardly

Admin these types of threads have been done to death. This forum is now inundated with these soulless, repetitive, pointless threads . It's all been said before. Personally I think kilflynn sounds the same as a fifty year old, teetotal virgin living at home with her mother would sound when she whinges about how discos are all about the demon drink and how all the men there are only after the one thing. Admin this forum needs a serious overhaul in terms of topics and contributions. Sadly it has become as dull as dishwater, as boring as watching paint dry and as repetitive as the bills that ceaselessly, endlessly drop in our doors. Is Hoganstand doomed ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 15/05/2015 16:36:33    1724084

at the present rate greengrass..yes

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 15/05/2015 17:19:53    1724095

Looks that way fabio.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 16/05/2015 12:02:08    1724183

cheer up lads, the championship is back! bound to be talking points to get us back in our stride

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 16/05/2015 15:37:08    1724219

Yes, it's a modern phenomenon this type of cynicism.

I wish we could go back to the glory days when everyone played it pure and true...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9VY7BKKCw

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 16/05/2015 16:52:17    1724235