Would a 13 a side game help? surely more space would be available..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 09/02/2015 09:43:23    1691503

you would need a second referee on the field as it is with the rules today and to ask one referee to start counting hand passing as well as bounces, steps, black card offences etc would be enough to send most refs into early retirement.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 09/02/2015 09:50:25    1691512

YAWN

supermon (Monaghan) - Posts: 1073 - 09/02/2015 10:13:05    1691526

One very simple way of curing the handpass problem would be to ban it altogether & allow only closed fist passes.

Surely worth an experiment.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 09/02/2015 10:33:06    1691536

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I don't mind loosing, but I won't tolerate my own team trying to be Donegal.

So you'd turn your nose up at an All-Ireland and 3 provincial titles in 4 years? I suppose with Kildare's prodigious trophy haul in recent times that's to be expected.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 09/02/2015 10:33:56    1691537

Once the attacking team crosses midfield they cannot return with possession to their own half. I think that would help.

SmellyBadger (Limerick) - Posts: 32 - 09/02/2015 10:34:16    1691538

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Daith
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I don't mind loosing, but I won't tolerate my own team trying to be Donegal.

So you'd turn your nose up at an All-Ireland and 3 provincial titles in 4 years? I suppose with Kildare's prodigious trophy haul in recent times that's to be expected.

When you're county has dominated the O'Byrne Cup for all of 2 long years you can become immune to success I think.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 09/02/2015 10:40:01    1691541

Ooooh!

You were holding your arse out for a kick there Daith :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 09/02/2015 10:48:18    1691550

You mean the backcourt rule like in basketball Badger. Not a bad idea. Maybe an adaptation of the shotclock rule. If the ball doesn't get cleared from keeper or defender and through other players within 20 seconds into the opponents half it's a throw-in. Do it 3 times and opponents get a sideline ball. Might encourage more kick passing from the back. On a side note I'd love to see them give 2 points for a kick from play more than 40 yards and less than 5 from the sideline. Bit too NBA for the GAA?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7363 - 09/02/2015 17:38:49    1691778

MesAmis

I don't know man. A well executed handpassing move can be brilliant to watch.

Yeah but 1200+ 2 yard passes per game?- Brilliant to watch give us a break

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 09/02/2015 18:01:09    1691792

I laughed at some suggestions.

Back court, requires an extra official on the halfway line! Game moves too fast for the ref.

Shot clock? The GAA won't introduce a hooter system, time clocks is not a runner!

Who counts the hand passes, the refs mates!? Another disaster

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 09/02/2015 20:46:49    1691877

just so much more difficult to kick ball in unless you have brilliant forwards capable of winning their own ball and often they are outnumbered....teams will simply have to adapt..the game is always changing

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 09/02/2015 20:54:27    1691881

They are better suggestions than your own Jayp! As for number of officials does any other field sport in the world have 7 in-game officials?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7363 - 09/02/2015 21:06:23    1691888

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I don't mind loosing, but I won't tolerate my own team trying to be Donegal. The setup in Navan on Saturday night was beyond turgid. Meath were negative too but at least they attempted to break at pace. Kildare make Cavan look like they are playing samba football.

Sport is supposed to be enjoyable. I would take no joy if Kildare were successful playing that brand of "football". It's time other supporters were honest with themselves.

checkmate so for kildare.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/02/2015 21:49:58    1691908

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just so much more difficult to kick ball in unless you have brilliant forwards capable of winning their own ball and often they are outnumbered....teams will simply have to adapt..the game is always changing

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Ah come on Fabio. This is football. You have to be reasonably handy to make any inter county team. It doesn't take much skill to get out in front of your man and catch the ball. If a IC forward isn't capable of that then he is in the wrong sport. I have seen Donegal fans claim that 'we don't have the players to play a kicking game'. That is absolute rubbish. Look at the calibre of forward in that squad. Murphy, McFadden. McHugh, McBrearty... Multiple all-stars in every area of the pitch and a claim that the players are not good enough. I think it's the ultimate insult to a footballer to claim that he is not capable of kicking a ball. I like the idea of the 'reverse offside' rule. Each team has to keep a minimum of 4 players in the opposition half. With geo tagging the technology to monitor the likes of that already exists and it could be taken out of the refs hands. That's forward thinking though and too much to expect an organisation that won't introduce a hooter to think that far ahead. Something will have to be done though if the trend continues. It's akin to every soccer team adopting Jack Charlton style tactics in my opinion.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 09/02/2015 21:51:51    1691909

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I don't mind loosing, but I won't tolerate my own team trying to be Donegal.

So you'd turn your nose up at an All-Ireland and 3 provincial titles in 4 years? I suppose with Kildare's prodigious trophy haul in recent times that's to be expected.
(Ulster titles are fairly handy won these days in fairness)

When you're county has dominated the O'Byrne Cup for all of 2 long years you can become immune to success I think.

You can't deny that with the exception of the semi final last year, Donegal have been absolutely horrific to watch the last few years. Yes it has brought them success but you but what's the point when you are butchering the sport. Cavan are at it big time now aswell and if Kildare continue to do it this year I'm not watching them out of principal. It's one thing playing the blanket and being good at it, it's far worse trying to play it and not have a clue.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 09/02/2015 21:54:15    1691911

good football teams always try to move the ball forward quickly with foot passes.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 10/02/2015 08:12:35    1691918

Best solution is to outlaw the two, three and four man tackles (swarm tackling). That would make all the extra defenders obsolete and is very easy to referee.
Forward can only be tackled by one defender at a time. 2nd defender would have to wait until the forward beats his man before he can tackle.

Half the problem for forwards is that when face by 2-3 defenders it is suicide to take them on so you handpass it sideways or backwards to a team mate who might be in a better position.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1130 - 10/02/2015 09:00:37    1691923

I can list a few more games where Donegal have played some great stuff in the last few years.

- Ulster final 2012 when we annihilated Down.
- AI semi final 2012 when we, "humiliated Cork" - Colm O'Rourke quote.
- 2011 QF against Kildare, one of the most absorbing games I've ever been at.

Ulster football by its very competitive nature doesn't make for free flowing entertaining fare all of the time. Maybe if we went down to Leinster for a year or two we could play more expansively.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 10/02/2015 10:58:27    1691961

I see Colm O Rourke has been following this thread

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1130 - 15/02/2015 20:08:20    1693842